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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby IcePack on Fri May 11, 2012 11:19 am

It's clearly written on the info tab.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby shoop76 on Fri May 11, 2012 1:21 pm

I see it clearly says it so I will take whatever consequences deemed appropriate, not that it states what those are. Obviously, however, something needs to be done with the account sitting sitting. If fries would have just taken my turn without saying anything no one would have known. Who knows how often this happens.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby Mr_Adams on Fri May 11, 2012 1:28 pm

chapcrap wrote:
IcePack wrote:I thought account sitting was forbidden...from conquer cup tab:

"Account sitting is forbidden in Conquer Cup games"

Is this actually enforced?

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Hmm, I didn't know it was against the rules to account sit. I played against people who had sitters in CCII


In my game, there was a player who had a round 1 account sitter. I figured since it took months for the game to start, and the games joined automatically, I wasn't going to bother with it. I mean, there was no warning for these games to start. if you secured your spot when the tournament was announced, you can't have been expected to have plans 3 months in advance.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby shoop76 on Fri May 11, 2012 1:44 pm

Looking back it obviously wasn't enforced in other CC II. So we have a rule, but no stated punishment and one that hasn't been enforced in the past.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby IcePack on Fri May 11, 2012 1:46 pm

shoop76 wrote:I see it clearly says it so I will take whatever consequences deemed appropriate, not that it states what those are. Obviously, however, something needs to be done with the account sitting sitting. If fries would have just taken my turn without saying anything no one would have known. Who knows how often this happens.


I got nothing against you. And I completely 100% agree - had he just taken a ten without posting no one would know. That's partly why I'm asking - why have a rule if it's not actively being checked in all the games for "sitting" or others not posting.

Either remove the stupid rule or enforce it, or I won't be supporting this new "feature tournament".

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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby IcePack on Fri May 11, 2012 1:47 pm

shoop76 wrote:Looking back it obviously wasn't enforced in other CC II. So we have a rule, but no stated punishment and one that hasn't been enforced in the past.


Yes the was the other reason I posted. It says it's forbidden but no details as to what happens?
The murkiest clearly stated rule I've ever seen.

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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby denominator on Sat May 12, 2012 12:58 pm

I ran into this issue in CCII where a clanmate covered my turn because I didn't get there in time. I received a warning and statement that further offences would result in stricter consequences.

I'm fine with this system - however, the only reason I received a warning was because I brought it forward that I had broken the rules. There are way too many ways to not get caught for this (intentionally or unintentionally) and given the wording of the rule, I would expect there to be more stringent guidelines relating to catching and punishing the violators.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby IcePack on Sat May 12, 2012 4:34 pm

denominator wrote:I ran into this issue in CCII where a clanmate covered my turn because I didn't get there in time. I received a warning and statement that further offences would result in stricter consequences.

I'm fine with this system - however, the only reason I received a warning was because I brought it forward that I had broken the rules. There are way too many ways to not get caught for this (intentionally or unintentionally) and given the wording of the rule, I would expect there to be more stringent guidelines relating to catching and punishing the violators.


Agreed, if its not actively enforced why is there a rule to begin with? And to many ways to get around it...am now realizing i shouldn't have spent $5 on this.

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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby ad10r3tr0 on Mon May 14, 2012 12:00 am

Nice, first round win by myself :D
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby EagleofGreenErth on Mon May 14, 2012 11:11 pm

Really kinda lame how a lot of these games are won purely based on whether you are automated to take your turn directly after a moron.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby TheForgivenOne on Tue May 15, 2012 2:00 am

IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:I see it clearly says it so I will take whatever consequences deemed appropriate, not that it states what those are. Obviously, however, something needs to be done with the account sitting sitting. If fries would have just taken my turn without saying anything no one would have known. Who knows how often this happens.


I got nothing against you. And I completely 100% agree - had he just taken a ten without posting no one would know. That's partly why I'm asking - why have a rule if it's not actively being checked in all the games for "sitting" or others not posting.

Either remove the stupid rule or enforce it, or I won't be supporting this new "feature tournament".

Thanks,
IcePack


How do you expect us to enforce it? Do you want the Hunters/C&A mods to check all 128 games (That's how many are in teh first round) every day to make sure nobody say in the games? Because for someone like me, who's connection has diminished greatly, would take ages. Kinda like expecting us to enforce SD in games... instead of having the users report it to us.
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby Rowney on Tue May 15, 2012 3:35 am

is there a 'conquer cup' league or is it a table format ? where do i go to see recent conquer cup results? In short how does this whole thing work?
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby chapcrap on Tue May 15, 2012 11:58 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:I see it clearly says it so I will take whatever consequences deemed appropriate, not that it states what those are. Obviously, however, something needs to be done with the account sitting sitting. If fries would have just taken my turn without saying anything no one would have known. Who knows how often this happens.


I got nothing against you. And I completely 100% agree - had he just taken a ten without posting no one would know. That's partly why I'm asking - why have a rule if it's not actively being checked in all the games for "sitting" or others not posting.

Either remove the stupid rule or enforce it, or I won't be supporting this new "feature tournament".

Thanks,
IcePack


How do you expect us to enforce it? Do you want the Hunters/C&A mods to check all 128 games (That's how many are in teh first round) every day to make sure nobody say in the games? Because for someone like me, who's connection has diminished greatly, would take ages. Kinda like expecting us to enforce SD in games... instead of having the users report it to us.

It either has to be enforced or removed, doesn't it?
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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby IcePack on Tue May 15, 2012 1:38 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:I see it clearly says it so I will take whatever consequences deemed appropriate, not that it states what those are. Obviously, however, something needs to be done with the account sitting sitting. If fries would have just taken my turn without saying anything no one would have known. Who knows how often this happens.


I got nothing against you. And I completely 100% agree - had he just taken a ten without posting no one would know. That's partly why I'm asking - why have a rule if it's not actively being checked in all the games for "sitting" or others not posting.

Either remove the stupid rule or enforce it, or I won't be supporting this new "feature tournament".

Thanks,
IcePack


How do you expect us to enforce it? Do you want the Hunters/C&A mods to check all 128 games (That's how many are in teh first round) every day to make sure nobody say in the games? Because for someone like me, who's connection has diminished greatly, would take ages. Kinda like expecting us to enforce SD in games... instead of having the users report it to us.


The users can only report what they see. If no one types "sitting for blah blah" then we the players can't report anything, can we?
For a PAID event, I expect the rules to be enforced. Yes, its inconvenient for you, the MH's. But there are things that I can not do from a players point of view.

And if your going to have the rule for an event, which people look at when paying for the event, then make sure its enforced! Otherwise have it follow standard site rules. Or make the event free. Just like a regular tournament, the written rules have to be enforced.

Another site I play on has a IP scan for each game. Something like that could be utilized for this event, so that you dont have to use your slow connection to check each game. For those of us who sign up, scans on IP for this game can be done to ensure BOB's IP didn't play on JOES turn without writing anything in chat while babysitting, or throw up a red flag to those who "oversee" to take a look. Just an idea, not saying its the solution.

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Re: Conquer Cup III

Postby General Roy on Tue May 15, 2012 3:17 pm

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