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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby elbitjusticiero on Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:11 am

bigWham wrote:Polymorphic Games allow 1 player to take multiple armies into battle.

So, basically secret diplomacy with yourself? ;)
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Gilligan on Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:18 am

betiko wrote:polymorphic is the greatest new game mode implementation. love it cause i love to play with myself!

a few bugs though:

-beta maps new unique kills don't update (yes, games created and ended today)
-for bots, only whambot gives new kills; sassbot kills are not being counted
-i have started just one polymorph manual deploy, and there is a bug, my opponent managed to deploy his troops but i cannot even if it's my turn, there is no start button. I don't know if there is this problem on every ploymorph manual.


betiko, for bronze you need 200 whambot kills, not sassbot.

however your sassbot kills will count towards your silver once you get bronze.

Awarded to members that defeat Bot opponents X times. Bronze=200 Level 1 Bots, Silver=200 Bots from each of Levels 1 & 2, Gold=200 Bots from each of Level 1, 2 & 3, Platinum=200 Bots from each of Levels 1,2,3 & 4.


Essentially,
Bronze = 200 whambots
Silver = 200 sassbots
Gold = 200 (something)bots
Platinum = 200 (something else)bots
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby chuck D on Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:42 am

bug: sometimes, you can't attack yourself on poly.. sometimes you can... grrrr, but love the update

edit: seems like just a clickies/bob problem...
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby bigWham on Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:07 am

Gilligan wrote:
betiko wrote:polymorphic is the greatest new game mode implementation. love it cause i love to play with myself!

a few bugs though:

-beta maps new unique kills don't update (yes, games created and ended today)
-for bots, only whambot gives new kills; sassbot kills are not being counted
-i have started just one polymorph manual deploy, and there is a bug, my opponent managed to deploy his troops but i cannot even if it's my turn, there is no start button. I don't know if there is this problem on every ploymorph manual.


betiko, for bronze you need 200 whambot kills, not sassbot.

however your sassbot kills will count towards your silver once you get bronze.

Awarded to members that defeat Bot opponents X times. Bronze=200 Level 1 Bots, Silver=200 Bots from each of Levels 1 & 2, Gold=200 Bots from each of Level 1, 2 & 3, Platinum=200 Bots from each of Levels 1,2,3 & 4.


Essentially,
Bronze = 200 whambots
Silver = 200 sassbots
Gold = 200 (something)bots
Platinum = 200 (something else)bots


Correct on the Bots. The Beta Medal counts should be displaying properly now. For the poly issue, please drop a note in Bugs with game nos etc so we make sure these get looked at. Manual worked in general in testing, but perhaps there are some issues.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:15 am

bigWham wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
betiko wrote:polymorphic is the greatest new game mode implementation. love it cause i love to play with myself!

a few bugs though:

-beta maps new unique kills don't update (yes, games created and ended today)
-for bots, only whambot gives new kills; sassbot kills are not being counted
-i have started just one polymorph manual deploy, and there is a bug, my opponent managed to deploy his troops but i cannot even if it's my turn, there is no start button. I don't know if there is this problem on every ploymorph manual.


betiko, for bronze you need 200 whambot kills, not sassbot.

however your sassbot kills will count towards your silver once you get bronze.

Awarded to members that defeat Bot opponents X times. Bronze=200 Level 1 Bots, Silver=200 Bots from each of Levels 1 & 2, Gold=200 Bots from each of Level 1, 2 & 3, Platinum=200 Bots from each of Levels 1,2,3 & 4.


Essentially,
Bronze = 200 whambots
Silver = 200 sassbots
Gold = 200 (something)bots
Platinum = 200 (something else)bots


Correct on the Bots. The Beta Medal counts should be displaying properly now. For the poly issue, please drop a note in Bugs with game nos etc so we make sure these get looked at. Manual worked in general in testing, but perhaps there are some issues.


FYI - issue of unable to start turn can be fixed be refreshing your browser. I just played a 2 slot poly game and eliminated one opponent, had to refresh browser everytime i was starting my second consecutive turn.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby OliverFA on Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:47 am

Armandolas wrote:
Leehar wrote:
Armandolas wrote:im pretty sure i will love it. It will be great,i will not rely on a "bad" teammate, i will farm even better, I will win much more because i have more experience in TEAM games than probably half of the 11k players on CC, so i guess it will be cool for my score and own pleasure....But im talking about a big picture here. ..not my own amusement or fun...i believe this will not be benefitial for the overall CC developement.
Anyway, im not a profet neither gives me fun to believe in this. I hope im absolutely wrong.


As others have mentioned, I think this setting is there to improve 1v1 games where there may be lost due to start or bad dice, and instead increase the strategic aspect in those encounters.
I don't think it should be deemed to replace team games, it's just another added option which has its own strategic context


The stats and the future will tell us the consequences of this.
You must not forget that it will not affect YOUR teamgames, because YOU belong to a small niche of players who does not need to find partners to play. You mostly play it with your clan mates or a small group of individuals "you trust".So do i, and so does a minority of the whole CC players.
Someone wrote this "Now i dont need to find partners to play"...thats exactly what i thought...it will be great for me..but it will be great for CC?


As I said, is very unlickely that I will play parachutes or polymorphic, but I welcome them because they seem to indicate that CC is aiming at giving us the choices to customize our games to our liking. I just hope that next update is Infected Neutrals. THAT would be amazing!
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Swifte on Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:37 am

bigWham wrote:
jigger1986 wrote:Great updates!

Just a note tho..

I just got my silver BR medal, the top ribbon is blue and silver but the lightning bolt is still green (indicating bronze) is this an error?


well, hold onto the sight of it as a keepsake because it may well change!


same with beta map.. silver medal still has green wrench.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Armandolas on Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:22 pm

bigWham wrote:Note that the Beta Map medal will not be applied retroactively,


Just got mine ... retroactively!! 8-[
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Butters1919 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:43 pm

Armandolas wrote:
bigWham wrote:Note that the Beta Map medal will not be applied retroactively,


Just got mine ... retroactively!! 8-[


I have 55 unique kills listed on my medal stats page. i'm assuming i just need to get one more unique to get the medal awarded. looks like there is some retroactive counting going on!
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Paddy The Cat on Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:46 pm

awesome update!
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby morleyjoe on Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:06 pm

bigWham - Great work you are doing. One flaw in the points given in the Polymorphic game results. At first I thought I was ripped off.

Game 13439820 I gained 20 point beating an opponent with very similar score.

2013-10-11 11:42:00 - BENCLUB lost 20 points
2013-10-11 11:42:00 - BENCLUB has a score of 2021
2013-10-11 11:42:00 - morleyjoe gained 20 points
2013-10-11 11:42:07 - morleyjoe has a score of 2019

Game 13439869 at first thought I lost 42 points to an opponent with very similar score.

2013-10-11 12:10:15 - morleyjoe lost 22 points
2013-10-11 12:10:15 - morleyjoe has a score of 1997.
2013-10-11 12:10:15 - osujacket lost 20 points
2013-10-11 12:10:15 - osujacket has a score of 1854.
2013-10-11 12:10:15 - osujacket gained 42 points
2013-10-11 12:10:23 - osujacket has a score of 1896.

At first I saw the 42 points for osujacket....and was thinking I got robbed. Then realized he lost 20 points.... interesting....

Anyways, good work. After trying a few games, I'm no sold on it yet. And the Parachutes, those are cool.

Butters1919 wrote:
Armandolas wrote:
bigWham wrote:Note that the Beta Map medal will not be applied retroactively,


Just got mine ... retroactively!! 8-[


I have 55 unique kills listed on my medal stats page. i'm assuming i just need to get one more unique to get the medal awarded. looks like there is some retroactive counting going on!


I got mine too. That's because I've won games on maps that are still Beta. :D
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Armandolas on Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:34 pm

ive read this from BB, so thats why i was surprised
blakebowling wrote:
Gilligan wrote:This is a fantastic update!

For the Beta Medal, does it go by game start date or end date?

It will be awarded for games created after the update (basically, now on forward).
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby codierose on Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:01 pm

what the f*ck is this bullshit Polymorphic (2) leave the fucking site alone you dick
since you have taking over there's been nothing but bugs and problems and pointless fucking add on wtf
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Wudf on Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:00 pm

Awesome. Looking forward to 4 and 6 player polymorphic!
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby Butters1919 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:03 pm

codierose wrote:what the f*ck is this bullshit Polymorphic (2) leave the fucking site alone you dick
since you have taking over there's been nothing but bugs and problems and pointless fucking add on wtf


While I disagree that the additions are pointless (if you don't like the settings, don't play them), I do agree that the bugginess of the site has gone way up. I used to spend more time poking around GD, C&A, clans, etc. in the forums, but have found myself where I used to never go, Bug Reports.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby bigWham on Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:08 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
codierose wrote:what the f*ck is this bullshit Polymorphic (2) leave the fucking site alone you dick
since you have taking over there's been nothing but bugs and problems and pointless fucking add on wtf


While I disagree that the additions are pointless (if you don't like the settings, don't play them), I do agree that the bugginess of the site has gone way up. I used to spend more time poking around GD, C&A, clans, etc. in the forums, but have found myself where I used to never go, Bug Reports.


I agree we have had more bugs than desirable. When you make no changes, you get no bugs... however this in not an excuse for too many bugs. So what are we doing about it? We are ramping up our Beta Team, putting in place a proper testing system, and building a better testing infrastructure in general.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby sundance123 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:48 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:
b00060 wrote:To not make the beta map medal retro is a shame.


data needed for this is not stored anywhere. Much like the random map medal.


I dont understand this. There is big difference between this and the random medal. With random you never knew if a game was created as random because this info wasnt stored.

With the beta medal surely you only need the time and date the game was started and the time and date the map left beta.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:06 pm

sundance123 wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
b00060 wrote:To not make the beta map medal retro is a shame.


data needed for this is not stored anywhere. Much like the random map medal.


I dont understand this. There is big difference between this and the random medal. With random you never knew if a game was created as random because this info wasnt stored.

With the beta medal surely you only need the time and date the game was started and the time and date the map left beta.


Yeah, apparently I was misunderstanding, looks like these were retroactively given afterall.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby bigWham on Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:44 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:
sundance123 wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
b00060 wrote:To not make the beta map medal retro is a shame.


data needed for this is not stored anywhere. Much like the random map medal.


I dont understand this. There is big difference between this and the random medal. With random you never knew if a game was created as random because this info wasnt stored.

With the beta medal surely you only need the time and date the game was started and the time and date the map left beta.


Yeah, apparently I was misunderstanding, looks like these were retroactively given afterall.


We do not have the time and date the map left beta stored in any database. It would be theoretically possible to research and input that data, however that would have delayed the medal and we preferred to get it into play.

The wins are only retroactive for the maps that are currently in Beta.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby patrickaa317 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:08 pm

bigWham wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
sundance123 wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
b00060 wrote:To not make the beta map medal retro is a shame.


data needed for this is not stored anywhere. Much like the random map medal.


I dont understand this. There is big difference between this and the random medal. With random you never knew if a game was created as random because this info wasnt stored.

With the beta medal surely you only need the time and date the game was started and the time and date the map left beta.


Yeah, apparently I was misunderstanding, looks like these were retroactively given afterall.


We do not have the time and date the map left beta stored in any database. It would be theoretically possible to research and input that data, however that would have delayed the medal and we preferred to get it into play.

The wins are only retroactive for the maps that are currently in Beta.


Perhaps b00 and sundance are volunteering to take on this task?
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby sundance123 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:45 pm

I would love to, if something is worth doing then it is worth doing well (especially changing the site), unfortunately due to time contraints I find my time quite limited at the (if anybody wants to search the phrase "quenching" they should get the necessary info from posts announcing each map has left beta).

I must say I am becoming quite alienated with the site at the moment.

Bots & Medals for playing bots makes me seriously question where this site is going and tonight i find is the first night that I took a few goes but wasnt tempted to start/join any new game.

Where is the vision?

Is Wham really going to implement every mediocre suggestion that has been ignored by the majority of users?

Even when I had the time to visit the suggs forum I dont remember being that impressed with anything I read or voted for/against. Trench and nospoils were brilliant additions, and team wins medals (personal judgement of course) but are you just trying to tops these - cos it is too soon.
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby blakebowling on Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:17 pm

sundance123 wrote:I would love to, if something is worth doing then it is worth doing well (especially changing the site), unfortunately due to time contraints I find my time quite limited at the (if anybody wants to search the phrase "quenching" they should get the necessary info from posts announcing each map has left beta).

I must say I am becoming quite alienated with the site at the moment.

Bots & Medals for playing bots makes me seriously question where this site is going and tonight i find is the first night that I took a few goes but wasnt tempted to start/join any new game.

Where is the vision?

Is Wham really going to implement every mediocre suggestion that has been ignored by the majority of users?

Even when I had the time to visit the suggs forum I dont remember being that impressed with anything I read or voted for/against. Trench and nospoils were brilliant additions, and team wins medals (personal judgement of course) but are you just trying to tops these - cos it is too soon.

Not every suggestion is perfect, but if it brings something to CC, we are willing to work with it. We are also looking into adding some more maps information to the database, that should allow for the medals to be distributed more clearly. More information on exactly what we're improving to come.
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Postby Butters1919 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:25 pm

but again, the most active forum is now Bug Reports....
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Re: Updates 10/10/13 - Polymorphic, Parachutes, Medals and C

Postby HardAttack on Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:32 am

frankiebee wrote:CC might be declining in members, but the quality of the game rises quick these days. I hope people will return to CC because of the awesome new management.


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