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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V22 P22 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:37 am

Aleena wrote:you still could use the river if you want the cuts everything in half - just add 2 or 3 bridges - only if you want to go that route - else trash the river...



Not gonna use it.
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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V21 P22 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:46 am

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greenoaks wrote:the legend use to say North/South Estonia, etc. now there is no mention of the countries anywhere on the map that are the Baltic States. i'm not suggesting a return to South West Latvia or some other such thing in the legend. but those countries should have their name somewhere. maybe on the map, maybe somehow on the legend. i don't know how, just throwing that out there for your consideration.
Again, I think you should figure out a way to do this with the names of the countries you put under the title. There are many ways to do this: stroke, glow, or mess around with darker blues or different color all together.

ManBungalow wrote:One thing while I'm here:
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Something needs to be done. ;)

Bruceswar wrote:Point 2: Which regions and or numbers?
LOOOOOTS. In the Auks Tatia area for example, every single region's name is shoved in a corner.

Bruceswar wrote:And the border should be thinker and I will leave them that way. :)
I think the thicker borders looks kinda dumb in some of the detailed areas and the islands. (Klaipeda & Tallinn + islands)

Trees and mountains are pretty bad currently - need work.

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The only river I found on a geographical map of the area looked like this (I stretched in over your map,) which doesn't really help your current gameplay as it splits everything in half, but are the other 2 rivers made up entirely? I feel like the map needs more impassables, but I did not see any mountain ranges you could throw in either. Maybe when you fix the trees you could find some more places for them.

Not fond of how you erased borders to make region names clear. :P



The rivers I picked are indeed semi made up, but also better for the game play rather than the one major river that is there.

At your other issues most all of them have been fixed.

Title has also been fixed to show the countries better. :)
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:41 am

Version 23:

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What is new:
  • New Title to show the countries better
  • New Special Thanks font
  • Moved around a good bit of the names and numbers.
  • Other minor fixes.

What is left besides the small map?
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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V21 P22 What is next?

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:53 am

lanyards wrote: Make Estonia first and Lituania last.

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

Both from North to South and alphabetically, Estonia comes first and Lithuanian last. It would make sense if their respective zones in the legend were grouped that way also.

Also, I'm wondering if there should be a blank line or some kind of divider between the groupings in the legend?
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:14 am

How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:18 am

nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.


I tried a mini map. It was utter fail. What about the current one can you not see well?
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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V21 P22 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:21 am

Dukasaur wrote:
lanyards wrote: Make Estonia first and Lituania last.

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

Both from North to South and alphabetically, Estonia comes first and Lithuanian last. It would make sense if their respective zones in the legend were grouped that way also.

Also, I'm wondering if there should be a blank line or some kind of divider between the groupings in the legend?



Fixed!

I tested the legend part out, but it looked funky.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:58 am

Bruceswar wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.


I tried a mini map. It was utter fail. What about the current one can you not see well?


It's just the colors are very similar.

It's not going to be a problem for me, because I always use the Continents Overview, so if it passes the colorblind tests I don't see it being too big of an issue.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:35 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.


I tried a mini map. It was utter fail. What about the current one can you not see well?


It's just the colors are very similar.

It's not going to be a problem for me, because I always use the Continents Overview, so if it passes the colorblind tests I don't see it being too big of an issue.


It passed the test when I tried it. Which version are you?
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:16 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.


I tried a mini map. It was utter fail. What about the current one can you not see well?


It's just the colors are very similar.

It's not going to be a problem for me, because I always use the Continents Overview, so if it passes the colorblind tests I don't see it being too big of an issue.


It passed the test when I tried it. Which version are you?


I have no idea, lol.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:37 pm

Let me show you some test images. :)
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby lanyards on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:50 pm

Bruceswar wrote:The rivers I picked are indeed semi made up, but also better for the game play rather than the one major river that is there.

At your other issues most all of them have been fixed.

Title has also been fixed to show the countries better. :)
I like the new title btw :) About the made-up rivers, are you sure that's okay to do? May want to check with a cartographer before on that one.

nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.
I had a feeling the color differentiation would be a problem. Surely someone who is actually colorblind would know about about this issue than whatever test there is?

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ManBungalow wrote:One thing while I'm here:
The grid you have on top of everything looks a little uncomfortable. Like it needs to be a darker colour (near black) and set the layer mode to overlay or something.
Something needs to be done. ;)


Sigs and special thanks can go in the bottom left corner inside of the border.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:57 pm

Type 1

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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:59 pm

lanyards wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:The rivers I picked are indeed semi made up, but also better for the game play rather than the one major river that is there.

At your other issues most all of them have been fixed.

Title has also been fixed to show the countries better. :)
I like the new title btw :) About the made-up rivers, are you sure that's okay to do? May want to check with a cartographer before on that one.

nolefan5311 wrote:How opposed would you be to just making the legend a mini-map? I'm colorblind, and have issues making out the different bonuses. It wouldn't be a big problem for me, since BOB has the Continent Overview, but it could be prohibitive for others who might have the same problem and don't use BOB.
I had a feeling the color differentiation would be a problem. Surely someone who is actually colorblind would know about about this issue than whatever test there is?

lanyards wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:One thing while I'm here:
The grid you have on top of everything looks a little uncomfortable. Like it needs to be a darker colour (near black) and set the layer mode to overlay or something.
Something needs to be done. ;)


Sigs and special thanks can go in the bottom left corner inside of the border.



The rivers are 100% OK. Many people looked at them during the game play part and were ok with them. In fact it was a Cart who suggested them.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:59 pm

the two 5's in the legend look closer to the left edge than the other numbers
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby waauw on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:07 pm

I don't like these new colours.
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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V21 P22 What is next?

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:20 pm

lanyards wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:One thing while I'm here:
The grid you have on top of everything looks a little uncomfortable. Like it needs to be a darker colour (near black) and set the layer mode to overlay or something.
Something needs to be done. ;)

GIMP has a layer mode called Multiply which is good for grid overlay type things. Does photoshop/whatever you're using (Bruce) have this?

Also, I'm looking forward to playing this map.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:44 pm

waauw wrote:I don't like these new colours.


You are looking at the color blind images.
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Re: Baltic States [6/19] V21 P22 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:45 pm

ManBungalow wrote:
lanyards wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:One thing while I'm here:
The grid you have on top of everything looks a little uncomfortable. Like it needs to be a darker colour (near black) and set the layer mode to overlay or something.
Something needs to be done. ;)

GIMP has a layer mode called Multiply which is good for grid overlay type things. Does photoshop/whatever you're using (Bruce) have this?

Also, I'm looking forward to playing this map.


Photoshop does have it. .. I will test it out
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:54 pm

greenoaks wrote:the two 5's in the legend look closer to the left edge than the other numbers



Optical illusion. . They are all the same distance.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:25 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
greenoaks wrote:the two 5's in the legend look closer to the left edge than the other numbers



Optical illusion. . They are all the same distance.

:D

the 5's seem to end a space before all other numbers. maybe it is the width of that number compared to the 2's & 3's.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:28 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
greenoaks wrote:the two 5's in the legend look closer to the left edge than the other numbers



Optical illusion. . They are all the same distance.

:D

the 5's seem to end a space before all other numbers. maybe it is the width of that number compared to the 2's & 3's.



Just triple checked. All numbers are the same size. They all start and end at the same pixels.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby greenoaks on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:59 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
greenoaks wrote:the two 5's in the legend look closer to the left edge than the other numbers



Optical illusion. . They are all the same distance.

:D

the 5's seem to end a space before all other numbers. maybe it is the width of that number compared to the 2's & 3's.



Just triple checked. All numbers are the same size. They all start and end at the same pixels.

ok, thanks for making me feel old. :D

for two of the terit names you've removed the border but not for Marijampole.
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:08 pm

Already fixed in next update :)
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Re: Baltic States [6/26] V23 P23 What is next?

Postby Aleena on Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:04 am

I think you map looks a little over worked...

I think it should look more like this:

It's clean, simple and refreshing...

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