Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [16.01.14] V45 Fixes

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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:06 pm

Version 14.
1. impassables enhanced on map and legend and moved from top to bottom
2. starts on Monarch and first treasury space beefed up to 6 each
3. titles on command vessels enhanced

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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:20 pm

Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:25 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.

Is it easily understood DoomYoshi?
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:59 pm

cairnswk wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.

Is it easily understood DoomYoshi?


Instead of text can you represent instructions through pictures?
Mainly the Treasury movement.
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:04 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.

Is it easily understood DoomYoshi?


Instead of text can you represent instructions through pictures?
Mainly the Treasury movement.

one-half of the treasury movement already has an upwards arrow...
the other bit i think would be doable if there was heaps more space....i'll look at it though. :)
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:12 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.

Is it easily understood DoomYoshi?


Instead of text can you represent instructions through pictures?
Mainly the Treasury movement.

one-half of the treasury movement already has an upwards arrow...
the other bit i think would be doable if there was heaps more space....i'll look at it though. :)

i've just tried it and graphically there are going to be too many arrows going back and forth
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:16 pm

cairnswk wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Finally had a chance to look it over. Looks good to me, will play it in Beta right away.

Is it easily understood DoomYoshi?


Instead of text can you represent instructions through pictures?
Mainly the Treasury movement.

one-half of the treasury movement already has an upwards arrow...
the other bit i think would be doable if there was heaps more space....i'll look at it though. :)

i've just tried it and graphically there are going to be too many arrows going back and forth


Just throwing it out there. Thanks for trying it out though :!: :D
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:20 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:...
Just throwing it out there. Thanks for trying it out though :!: :D

i had thought of it earlier 'coz i recognise it is very wordy...
it is difficult because there needs to be arrows going to and from from every treasury square to each command vessel unit as well as SS or LB...yeh, just too much
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:26 pm

I can understand it. It seems wordy but I don't have better suggestions.
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:02 pm

This map will receive the gameplay stamp in the next 24-48 hours, so if anyone has any concerns/comments/suggestions, now is the time to make them known.
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:37 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:This map will receive the gameplay stamp in the next 24-48 hours, so if anyone has any concerns/comments/suggestions, now is the time to make them known.


Yes i have comments....are the bonuses all good? Not enough discussion has taken place about these yet.
For instance...
1. the Monarch & their Treasury.... a player will get auto-deployed 1+1+3+4+5 for each of those square held.
Do they need to get another +11 for holding all that as stipulated in the top section.

2. for the single ships...does it need to be 9 on either side of spanish or English or can it be a combination of both sides for the +1 bonus and is +1 enough for 9....coinsidering you get +1 for holding a supply ship or land base.

3. army de parma and fireships...i am sure these bonuses are not correct.

4. if supply ship is worth +1, then surely command ship must be worth +2

Stamping for gameplay is happening far too early IMHO, and not enough analysis has occurred, :)
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:28 pm

Don't worry, no stamp will be given till we're all sure that the map is really ready to go.
Moreover a little bird told me that iancanton, our gameplay guru, is going to double check the map.

Finally, althought my current rank is really shitty and certainly I'm not a gameplay expert, I'll take a look at your map tomorrow and I'll try to give you an answer to your questions/concerns here above.

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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:11 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:...
Finally, althought my current rank is really shitty and certainly I'm not a gameplay expert, I'll take a look at your map tomorrow and I'll try to give you an answer to your questions/concerns here above.
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no hurry tnb80...i also want to do some analysis there to offer something from my perspective, although like you, i am also no gameplay expert. :)
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:29 pm

I hope my eagerness to get it stamped didn't lead you to believe I wasn't being thorough, cairns. If you want, I will unsticky the thread and leave it in the GP stage for a couple more weeks, give more people a chance to look it over.
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Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [25.6.12] V14-P10 Gameplay?

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:32 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:I hope my eagerness to get it stamped didn't lead you to believe I wasn't being thorough, cairns. If you want, I will unsticky the thread and leave it in the GP stage for a couple more weeks, give more people a chance to look it over.

eagerness i suspected. :) thoroughness was not suspected. :) yes please unsticky it due to large number of issues to be discussed.
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