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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:53 am

Heard anything about the size application yet?
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:10 pm

cairns, 2 things before this map can go forward.

  • Firstly the sizing issue. This is a big concern at the moment and it looks like it will not be needed for this one. You have a 1000 in height but you need to get it down to the 800 limit. This should really not be to much hassle. It will make the map more square but this is a must right now.
  • Secondly, this is going to be the last one allowed. That means no Rail Antarctica or Rail Mars etc.

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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:30 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Heard anything about the size application yet?

No. no-one has got back to me about the size as it seems everyone except you (and now Nolefan5311) are on hols.
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:48 pm

koontz1973 wrote:cairns, 2 things before this map can go forward.

  • Firstly the sizing issue. This is a big concern at the moment and it looks like it will not be needed for this one. You have a 1000 in height but you need to get it down to the 800 limit. This should really not be to much hassle. It will make the map more square but this is a must right now.
  • Secondly, this is going to be the last one allowed. That means no Rail Antarctica or Rail Mars etc.
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Downsizing the map loses its flavour and i'm not prepared to squash S America to be more square for the sake of a few pixels.
I have examined the map and without including the bottom where there is no rail line, i can bring it down to a small version of 750W x 800H.

As for being the last map in the Rail series, i never intended to make R Antartica and R Mars, but did intend on making a R North America.

May i ask who made that decision that this was to be the last rail map? and why it was made? I am sure all the rail fans out there would like to know also. :D
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:06 pm

You know full well decisions like this are made above my pay grade.

But get this one down as small as you can get it cairns. It will not be allowed forward if a pixel cannot be justified. These are the new rules we all have to live by.

As for the last one, even I have to say that this is not unique in any way now. As you know, that is one of the requirements for a new map. As for Rail North America, we already have Rail USA. Nothing unique about that at all.
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:16 pm

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As for the last one, even I have to say that this is not unique in any way now. As you know, that is one of the requirements for a new map. As for Rail North America, we already have Rail USA. Nothing unique about that at all.

NO. nothing unqiue about completing a series....however, USA does not include Canada nor Mexico, although some might think it does.
And while we're on the subject of unqiness...how many more USA or European maps are going to be made?
Don't talk to me about uniqueness :) because this uniqueness BS thing gets trotted out whenever someone feels like getting on their fancy horse to make the site sound as though it has some unique qualities about it. Several have tried that one on me in the past and they no longer are here.
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:32 pm

You are right, nothing unique about map after map of the USA, but apart from the map pack, they are all different in certain aspects. USA, USA2.1, USapocalypse all cover the continental united states, all have different game play and looks. The others are all regions of the states. And again, apart from the pack, all are different from one another. The huge difference they all have over this series is that not only the looks have changed from one to another, the game play has changed.

I am not trotting out the uniqueness card here for the sake of it as we have lots of maps that have similar themes and similar styles, I bring it up as at some point we really will end up with Rail Mars or Rail Antarctica.
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:36 pm

koontz1973 wrote:You are right, nothing unique about map after map of the USA, but apart from the map pack, they are all different in certain aspects. USA, USA2.1, USapocalypse all cover the continental united states, all have different game play and looks. The others are all regions of the states. And again, apart from the pack, all are different from one another. The huge difference they all have over this series is that not only the looks have changed from one to another, the game play has changed.

I am not trotting out the uniqueness card here for the sake of it as we have lots of maps that have similar themes and similar styles, I bring it up as at some point we really will end up with Rail Mars or Rail Antarctica.


Get me an xml update and i will make it unique. :)
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:34 am

You had two last year. ;)
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:26 am

koontz1973 wrote:You had two last year. ;)

and what were they?
If you're saying losing condition was an update, well yes, and i already have 3 of those in the foundry, so this map is not going that way.
If you're saying conditional border was an update, well really for the rail maps, that wasn't an update since for most you've had to hold the adjoining station in a terminal to gain access to another line. :)
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:39 pm

The other one was collections.
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:59 pm

isaiah40 wrote:The other one was collections.


Thank-you isaiah40.
Is there any chance we can get these added to XML tutorial which is supposed to be our guide as to how do these updates for xml, please?
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 New Sizes.

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:42 pm

New sizes will be:

Small: 800 x 850
Larage: 1040 x 1105
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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 Design Change?

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:23 pm

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isaiah40 wrote:The other one was collections.


Thank-you isaiah40.
Is there any chance we can get these added to XML tutorial which is supposed to be our guide as to how do these updates for xml, please?


Is there a chance you stop to demand things all days/all time? Let me say you're becoming annoying (and i'm not talking only about this, but also about other things that have left me really disappointed)
A guide will be released as soon as we have the go ahead about some things from the red guys. You should know how things work here and that some things are kept behind the scenes till a X moment. (maybe that things are done when you think, and post, that we're not here or we're doing nothing? :idea: )
Be patient as you were in past and switch back your behaviour like it was in past (i hope you get what i mean)

cairnswk wrote:Don't talk to me about uniqueness :) because this uniqueness BS thing gets trotted out whenever someone feels like getting on their fancy horse to make the site sound as though it has some unique qualities about it. Several have tried that one on me in the past and they no longer are here.


Think what you want, but like I said to you in other occasion, you don't make the rules and you're not the foundry nor a CAs nor an admin and unfortunately for you i'm still here (and i have no plans to go anywhere). On the opposite, BS or not, the site has a veto option you can't circumvent and you must follow the site rules. So this is the final rail map.
And in case you don't like what i said above let me remember this main rule to you:

guidelines wrote:It's fine if you don't like this site or the way it is run...find another one with better rules, start another one and make your own rules, abuse another one and try to get them to change their rules, but don't complain about the rules here.


It's no more like when Lack allowed everything, forget that time. Now CAs really have the final say on things, you can like it or not, but this is how things will be done now.

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Re: Rail S America [29.12.12] V6-P3 New Sizes.

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:24 pm

cairnswk wrote:New sizes will be:

Small: 800 x 850
Larage: 1040 x 1105


btw, these sizes are ok.

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