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*[Abandoned] Papua New Guinea

Postby ndrs on Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:13 pm

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Map Name: Papua New Guinea
Mapmaker(s): ndrs

Background:
This is the winning entry of the Papua New Guinea Graphics Contest. I did the graphics, not the gameplay.
If you are the guy behind the gameplay and want to be added to this post – let me know. :lol:

Number of Territories: 57
Neutral Territories: 4 (Mt Hagan, Koroba, Arawa, Misima)
Bonus Regions: 9

Special Features: none

Distribution:
2 players - 17 territories each - drop of 5
3 players - 17 territories each - drop of 5
4 players - 13 territories each - drop of 4
5 players - 10 territories each - drop of 3
6 players - 8 territories each - drop of 3
7 players - 7 territories each - drop of 3
8 players - 6 territories each - drop of 3



To Do List:

Get a stamp... ;)


Discussions Needed:
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby ndrs on Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:18 pm

Please comment and discuss – I'll wait for the To Do list to grow before I make the first update.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:21 am

I like the bottom map facts, it is a nice touch to the aesthetic of the map. I also am warming to the idea of no bonus legend, since you put the bonus numbers on their respective bonus zones, but the empty space of the map seems like it could handle a legend somewhere.

How are bonus zones going to be defined in the xml, and appear in the game log? What names will they have? Are they named after the region with bonus number on it? I.E. Bonus Zone/Continent Tari, Balimo, Kimbe, etc?

Keep it up.


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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby ndrs on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:54 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I like the bottom map facts, it is a nice touch to the aesthetic of the map. I also am warming to the idea of no bonus legend, since you put the bonus numbers on their respective bonus zones, but the empty space of the map seems like it could handle a legend somewhere.

How are bonus zones going to be defined in the xml, and appear in the game log? What names will they have? Are they named after the region with bonus number on it? I.E. Bonus Zone/Continent Tari, Balimo, Kimbe, etc?

Keep it up.


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Good point Andy. We must be able to refer to a specific bonus region in game chat as well...

I'm adding this to the To Do list.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:33 am

Congrats on the win.

A couple of points.
Mistake on the south bridge. Needs to go between Balimo and Daru.
Would be nice if you could move Bougainville into the map so it is not heading off the image.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby ndrs on Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:30 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Congrats on the win.

A couple of points.

Thanks Koontz. :)
Mistake on the south bridge. Needs to go between Balimo and Daru.

I realised it when I drew it, but decided to keep it where it was. It doesn't have any effect on gameplay and I'm sure there are many bridges along that river IRL?
Would be nice if you could move Bougainville into the map so it is not heading off the image.

In reality Bougainville sits a bit east of Rossei, so its position is already rather distorted.
I also like how it somehow stabilizes the map on the east-west axis the way it is now.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:04 pm

I realised it when I drew it, but decided to keep it where it was. It doesn't have any effect on gameplay and I'm sure there are many bridges along that river IRL?

Might be true, but it is not the correct position for the map you where given to copy. :P
In reality Bougainville sits a bit east of Rossei, so its position is already rather distorted.
I also like how it somehow stabilizes the map on the east-west axis the way it is now.

Ok.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby ndrs on Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:12 am

koontz1973 wrote:Ok.

Then again, if I add 22px to the width I can fit the whole island. I've thought about it and like the idea! *adding to the list*
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby gimil on Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:13 pm

[moved] to the main founry.

For the sake of formaliaties here are your stamps. Feel free to present them on the first post of this thread:


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THere are not final seals of approval. So if any concerns are raised about gameplay they will still have to be addressed. Also you haven't filled out your distribution section in the original post. Also remember that when you update your map it is best practice to both post the image in a new post (within this thread) as well a updating the first page with the most recent update.

Good luck with your first venture ndrs. ;)


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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby Peter Gibbons on Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:11 pm

Very happy this one won the competition. Congrats, ndrs.

I would personally identify two things that might need tweaking insofar as graphics/presentation:

1) I'd look for a new font for the territory names. It just looks like a placeholder and very basic at the moment. I think a strong font could add flavor to the map.

2) I wonder if the impassables need to be defined in a key. They do seem pretty obvious to me, but we've had some more obvious maps "idiot-proofed" in the past, so it's probably at least worth the discussion now before we get too far along.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:57 pm

ndrs wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Ok.

Then again, if I add 22px to the width I can fit the whole island. I've thought about it and like the idea! *adding to the list*


Well you do have up to 840 wide to work with. The gameplay draft is at 840x800, so you could use that size.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby ndrs on Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:56 pm

gimils wrote:... Also you haven't filled out your distribution section in the original post ...

Good luck with your first venture ndrs. ;)

Thanks, gimil :)
Need to know the number of neutrals before I fill it out. With 57 territs I guess there will be at least one neutral?

Peter Gibbons wrote:Very happy this one won the competition. Congrats, ndrs.

I would personally identify two things that might need tweaking insofar as graphics/presentation:

1) I'd look for a new font for the territory names. It just looks like a placeholder and very basic at the moment. I think a strong font could add flavor to the map.

2) I wonder if the impassables need to be defined in a key. They do seem pretty obvious to me, but we've had some more obvious maps "idiot-proofed" in the past, so it's probably at least worth the discussion now before we get too far along.

Thanks, Peter :)
Very good ideas. I agree. *adding to the list*

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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:34 am

Very good looking map Anders! :)

AndyDufresne wrote:How are bonus zones going to be defined in the xml, and appear in the game log? What names will they have? Are they named after the region with bonus number on it? I.E. Bonus Zone/Continent Tari, Balimo, Kimbe, etc?


Maybe you could place the names of those region bonus in the same way you did for the bonus. It could be with a different font with some transparency.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby perchorin on Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:53 am

Kabanellas wrote:Very good looking map Anders! :)

AndyDufresne wrote:How are bonus zones going to be defined in the xml, and appear in the game log? What names will they have? Are they named after the region with bonus number on it? I.E. Bonus Zone/Continent Tari, Balimo, Kimbe, etc?


Maybe you could place the names of those region bonus in the same way you did for the bonus. It could be with a different font with some transparency.

You could do it like the Macedonia map I believe, where one of the terts within the region is the region name and it's in a larger/bolder font so people know.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [01 Nov 2011]

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:55 am

perchorin wrote:You could do it like the Macedonia map I believe, where one of the terts within the region is the region name and it's in a larger/bolder font so people know.


That would be the way to go.
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