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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 9.3 [24 October 2012] pg 15/15

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:56 pm

MrBenn wrote:This looks like a pretty nice map !

The font you're using for the title is a bit rubbish though - I preferred the Sans Serif version to the one just above this; there's also no reason to colour the bottom of the E red? The coastlines could do with a certain 'je nais cest quoi' too!

Agreed!

When can we expect the next update? It has been a month since the last one. I'll leave this here for a few more days then I will have to move it to the Recycling Bin.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:14 pm

Again sorry for all the lost time. You've all been waiting and here it is: THE LAST ONE 8-)



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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Lancelot du Lac, very little if anything at all left to do to this, so how about a small map now. Have you discussed the size of the small with anyone? If not, before you start it, go and PM isaiah40 ask for his guidance.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby pamoa on Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:56 am

about mountains
Alps are good the others are more boring
work on them with size and orientation variation
watch out near Pays Basque you have old style mountains remaining
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:59 am

Another thing about the mountains is that the shadow is on both sides. This needs to be solved.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:37 pm

pamoa wrote:about mountains
Alps are good the others are more boring
work on them with size and orientation variation
watch out near Pays Basque you have old style mountains remaining


koontz1973 wrote:Another thing about the mountains is that the shadow is on both sides. This needs to be solved.


done here :

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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:40 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Lancelot du Lac, very little if anything at all left to do to this, so how about a small map now. Have you discussed the size of the small with anyone? If not, before you start it, go and PM isaiah40 ask for his guidance.


It seems to me that the size was discussed at the beginning of the discussion and the choice was decided to make a big map. I'll find the post!
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby pamoa on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:36 am

great
Vosges and Massif Central remain to do
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10 [27 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:55 am

Lancelot du Lac wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Lancelot du Lac, very little if anything at all left to do to this, so how about a small map now. Have you discussed the size of the small with anyone? If not, before you start it, go and PM isaiah40 ask for his guidance.


It seems to me that the size was discussed at the beginning of the discussion and the choice was decided to make a big map. I'll find the post!

You need to make a small map to.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:40 am

What size do I need for a small map?

Is it enough just to reduce the size of the current map?

Thanks for your help
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby pamoa on Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:53 am

Lancelot du Lac wrote:What size do I need for a small map?
Is it enough just to reduce the size of the current map?
between 75% and 67%
watch out you may need more than just a linear reducing
some elements may need to be redrawn
text particularly
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:18 am

Lancelot, this is getting close. As koontz mentioned the mountains still need some work. Take a look at my Fractured America and Fractured China maps. See how I alternated the mountains so they look more like a mountain range rather that one mountain that was copy and pasted? I used 3 or 4 different mountains and staggered them, and made them bigger or smaller. This is what I want you to do.

As for the small map, all you need to do is reduce the map down to 686x695 and you should be fine. Though I would increase the size of the Paris Inset a bit to fit the 888's in it easier. When you reduce the size, you will also need to make sure that the text is readable. I would go with a pure black color, and increase the size by 1 size. For Corse this is what I recommend for the placement of the 888's:
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In this way you have room for the number and you can increase the text size.

I would use the pure black color for the text on both the small and large maps as it will make it easier to read.

When you get the small done, use Vischeck to test the map for colorblindness (yes koontz Vischeck is now working!). Then post the colorblind test in one spoiler in the first post, and here on the last page. Once all that is done we can get this stickied and on its way into the Final forge!!
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby Mishalex on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:21 am

isaiah40 wrote:Lancelot, this is getting close. As koontz mentioned the mountains still need some work. Take a look at my Fractured America and Fractured China maps. See how I alternated the mountains so they look more like a mountain range rather that one mountain that was copy and pasted? I used 3 or 4 different mountains and staggered them, and made them bigger or smaller. This is what I want you to do.


Isn't it the role of the map designer to choose that? If we like it that way?

Thanks for your tips anyway =D>
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:37 pm

Mishalex wrote:Isn't it the role of the map designer to choose that? If we like it that way?

Thanks for your tips anyway =D>

It is but no map gets made without input from others. You cannot reject a suggestion with the premise of I do not want it as it is my map. If you can come up with a good suggestion of why your mountains are better the way they are, you can keep them.

But I think you will find that you will not be able to. Better to do some work on them and break up the appearance.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - Version 10.1 [28 November 2012] pg 16/16

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:31 pm

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Still wondering what the heck this little white line is doing there.

And on the mini map tone down the outer glow a pixel or 2 down, its just a shade too much.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:55 pm

My last work on the mountains and the version of the small map. Here I hope it seen like, for me the work is done!


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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby nolefan5311 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:57 pm

=D> =D> =D>
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:29 am

hello !

Here non news, is it ok ?
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:16 pm

Still looking, but two things you need to do. Post some colour blind checks (map tools) of the map and place 888 numbers onto both maps. Use different coloured numbers all over the map.
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:18 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Still looking, but two things you need to do. Post some colour blind checks (map tools) of the map.

3rd post above yours is the color blind tests koontz. I guess you skimmed the thread again! ;)

Use version 1 of the small map. On the small you can enlarge the Paris inset to make sure the 888's will fit nicely. Other than these couple of small things, this is just about ready to get moved into the Final Forge!!
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:28 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Still looking, but two things you need to do. Post some colour blind checks (map tools) of the map.

3rd post above yours is the color blind tests koontz. I guess you skimmed the thread again! ;)

Use version 1 of the small map. On the small you can enlarge the Paris inset to make sure the 888's will fit nicely. Other than these couple of small things, this is just about ready to get moved into the Final Forge!!

Bloody Nora, I looked and looked and still missed them. :roll: Probably because they are not in the first post. :D
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:15 pm

Everybody, here the small and big'888 VERSION !!! Done, done and done ;)

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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby nolefan5311 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:30 pm

Did you use the 888's that were provided a couple posts up?
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [10 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:47 pm

I don't understand, what you mean ?
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Re: FRANCE 2.1 - Version 10.2 [1 December 2012] pg 17/17

Postby nolefan5311 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:56 pm

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These.

They can be found here:

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If you still can't figure out how to put these on, ask koontz or isaiah, lol. I'm not a graphics guy
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