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Re: Vertex[p1/9] Austrum[p1/9] [5/1] V19 GFX?

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:03 am

koontz1973 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:For the small maps, I'd kind of like the region text to be bumped up in size slightly. Otherwise, looking good.


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Love to accomidate you here Andy but I already have an issue with some names at the borders and even going over the borders. Bumping the size up will only make this worse. Can I ask though, do you find it hard to read.

If size can't be bumped, what about the strength of the color? Maybe darker would do it, without ruining the color scheme or overpowering it.


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Re: Vertex[p1/9] Austrum[p1/9] [5/1] V19 GFX?

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:46 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:If size can't be bumped, what about the strength of the color? Maybe darker would do it, without ruining the color scheme or overpowering it.


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Hows this for you Andy?
Bumped the opacity up for both maps (small only) territ text.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [10/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:37 am

Austrum No real changes. Just minor touch ups. Posting all relevant maps and xml as well.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [19/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:26 pm

Vertex Just minor touch ups. Posting all relevant maps and xml as well.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [19/1] V20

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:09 pm

These are the kind of maps I like... ;) I don't need to really say anything, the community takes care of it all for me, and the mapmakers quickly does their part, have a cookie koontz!

Lets hear any final input on graphics, guys.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [19/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:08 pm

Thanks for the cookie RB0. Just fixed a small problem with Vertex and posted in previous images.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Gilligan on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:05 pm

Forgive me here, but what does it mean when it says "+1 for every 4 connected regions in a territory"? As far as I knew, regions and territories were synonymous. Does it mean "bonus"?
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:05 pm

Look forward to playing them.


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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:09 pm

Gilligan wrote:Forgive me here, but what does it mean when it says "+1 for every 4 connected regions in a territory"? As far as I knew, regions and territories were synonymous. Does it mean "bonus"?

Yes it does. And like the rest of the map, the bonus has a Latin flare to it. I actually had this the other way round and got told that it was wrong CC terminology.

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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Gilligan on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:12 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Forgive me here, but what does it mean when it says "+1 for every 4 connected regions in a territory"? As far as I knew, regions and territories were synonymous. Does it mean "bonus"?

Yes it does. And like the rest of the map, the bonus has a Latin flare to it. I actually had this the other way round and got told that it was wrong CC terminology.

AndyDufresne wrote:Look forward to playing them.


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According to instructions page (http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?m ... tructions2), the new terminology for "bonus" is "zone" and not "territory"?
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 pm

Zone or territory?

Zone is better then and will change it but does territory confuse that much all the while sounding better? Either way I am good.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:42 am

koontz1973 wrote:Zone or territory?

Zone is better then and will change it but does territory confuse that much all the while sounding better? Either way I am good.


I think territory would cause a bit of confusion as people use it synonymously with region, but it's your call.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:01 am

I don't like the font you've used in the corners or the bridges.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:47 am

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koontz1973 wrote:Zone or territory?

Zone is better then and will change it but does territory confuse that much all the while sounding better? Either way I am good.


I think territory would cause a bit of confusion as people use it synonymously with region, but it's your call.

Will get it changed.
ManBungalow wrote:I don't like the font you've used in the corners or the bridges.

What is wrong with them, graphically?

EDIT: Changed territory to zone on Gilligans advice. I have my doubts about this one as it might cause players in Austrum to ask for the bonus to apply to the ships on the right hand side of the board.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Gillipig on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:31 pm

=D> =D>
Visually this map is a work of art. If I was a lesser man I'd be jealous, but I'm not :), awesome graphics koontz, players are going to love this map!
And now on to the gameplay;
I'm worried about how frequently players will drop a bonus. It's the one thing that can really sink an otherwise awesome map. Have you checked how frequently someone would drop a bonus? (1v1 in particular)
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Seamus76 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:04 pm

I'm not sure if you have addressed this since I last brought it up a while ago, but tell me again why on Austrum are the ships in the legend different then on the map?
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:29 pm

Seamus76 wrote:I'm not sure if you have addressed this since I last brought it up a while ago, but tell me again why on Austrum are the ships in the legend different then on the map?

They are not. I said it last time. All I did was copy and paste the ships from the map to the legend. I had to bring them out more as the background is a lot darker than the sea and where hard to see and people where missing the connection between Exploratorium and ships. But pixel for pixel, they are identical is size and shape.
Gillipig wrote:I'm worried about how frequently players will drop a bonus. It's the one thing that can really sink an otherwise awesome map. Have you checked how frequently someone would drop a bonus? (1v1 in particular)

No one will ever drop a bonus.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Seamus76 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:49 am

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Seamus76 wrote:I'm not sure if you have addressed this since I last brought it up a while ago, but tell me again why on Austrum are the ships in the legend different then on the map?

They are not. I said it last time. All I did was copy and paste the ships from the map to the legend. I had to bring them out more as the background is a lot darker than the sea and where hard to see and people where missing the connection between Exploratorium and ships. But pixel for pixel, they are identical is size and shape.
Right, I get that for sure. Let me rephrase. The ones in the legend are overall cleaner and clearer, you can see very well the nice little red flags which you can not see on the ones on the map. I don't have to tell you, you know, the map looks wonderful as is, it's just my opinion that the ships on the map should look EXACTLY like the ships in the legend, because the ships in the legend look better to me. I promise not to bring it up again after this though. :-# ;)
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:04 pm

Seamus, I understand the point you are making, but the ones in the legend are brighter for various reasons as explained. Darker background made them invisible when as on the map. So they needed to go brighter. That is all that was done. But when you take that brightness and place it onto the map, you get ten spots of brightness which looks out of place.

But if certain others agree, I will change it.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby Seamus76 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:13 pm

No, that makes sense. I'm not sure you explained it that way before, but if on the map they don't look right then you have it the way it should be. You may proceed. :lol: Just kidding.

But again, great work on them both (or should I say all 4 of them). It's obvious your skills have come a long way, and you are working very hard to learn and try new techniques. Well done my man.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/10] [22/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:44 am

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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/11] [26/1] V20

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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/11] [26/1] V20

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:57 am

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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/11] [26/1] V20

Postby Gilligan on Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:21 pm

Koontz,

Austrum XML:

Iiex should not border Mair
Gyara should border Mair
----edit: I see what happened here. The connections are different on the small and on the large. Whichever is right go with. In the XML as is, it matches the small version.
Sarnia is misspelled Carnia

You are also missing these Connect 4 bonuses:
Gaulos Ionia Icaria Melite
Gaulos Ionia Icaria Thasos
Gaulos Ionia Icaria Sarnia
Phew, took a few minutes to find all of them in that area!

Other than that, things seem to be good.
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Re: Vertex[p1/10] Austrum[p1/11] [26/1] V20

Postby Gilligan on Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:43 pm

Me again :mrgreen:

Vertex XML
Map says the ring, if you will, has 2 neutral...XML says 3
Insula does not border Clanis
Missing a Connect 4, Borras Suecia, Antipoda, Raetia, Livonia
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