XML Update: Finally!! LOL

[zimmah]

So now we can look forward to an influx of 'recycle bin' maps coming out through XML and into BETA...
One concrete change to be thankful for in the direct aftermath...

nope, not really.
first of all there aren't that many maps that would have required these updates.
second, all of those maps should have to earn again their graphics badge if they've been in the bin for a long time.
so straight to beta.... certainly not. but we might have a few (1-2) resurrected maps.

like dim said, only about 1 or 2 maps wee really waiting for this. even though the chances may be huge to those maps, they're totally useless for all others. not saying they're bad, just niche.

[x-raider]

yeh. My point is, for anyone who's really depressed about the situation, this is something of substance that is happening.

[zimmah]

well, i agree that it is nice, but i also agree with dim hat it should have been much sooner and it should not need a strike for it to finally happen.

[Bruceswar]

well, i agree that it is nice, but i also agree with dim hat it should have been much sooner and it should not need a strike for it to finally happen.

There are lots of things in wait... but I do see the pace picking up as of late... This is a step in the right direction. If the pace keeps picking up, CC will pick up steam again.

[Nola_Lifer]

When was the last XML update prior to this one? How many updates do we get a year on average? 1 or 2?

[zimmah]

When was the last XML update prior to this one? How many updates do we get a year on average? 1 or 2?

lol, more like one every 4 years.

[thenobodies80]

Secondly, there needs to be some clarification about how conditional borders and conditional bonuses work...
Imagine a French Revolution map, where there was a condition required to be able to attack the Bastille. Holding French Revoutionaries would be required to build up a bonus (imagine there's 7 key leaders, which are coded to give a bonus for holding 3 or more). The condition is coded that you need to hold the Revolutionary Leaders to attack the Bastille. Do you need to hold all 7 of them to open the attack option, or any three of them?

For conditional borders (or anything else like subcontinent references), a continent is considered "held" if you hold the continent-level required irrespective of the bonus levels.

So, if you want to set a specific number you need to code an additional/separated bonus with its own name and use it for the conditional border.
If you want i can post some code using your example.

Questions about conditional borders;

Is the conditional border activated immediately after the dependent region/continent is taken, or does one have to wait until their next turn to make an attack along the conditional route ?

My thinking is that the game log doesn't explicitly recognise a bonus as having been captured until it actually grants the bonus next turn.

If it does immediately take effect, then some creative people could have fun adding killer neutrals to the mix.

Similarly - if one is in a freestyle game and holds the trigger region at the start of a turn, and loses it during the turn but before making an attack, can you still attack through the conditional route ?

etc

Like losing conditions:

The conditional border is activated/disactivated immediately when you conquer or lose the condition.

[Kabanellas]

Congrats on the updates, the conditional borders seem like a very 'juicy' option...

Still waiting on that 'killer neutral' change to make The Age of Buccaneers viable

[dolomite13]

I have been away for a while and just started playing a game or two lately. I love the conditional border piece. This may prompt a sequel to Monsters! or a return to my "stalled" Conquer 500 map.

Any chance that an update was ever done to allow territories to degrade to zero. I know we have degrade by X amount with a minimum of 1 and reset to X neutral every turn. I am looking for degrade by X every turn and reset to X neutral when 0 is reached.

Thanx

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[-=- Tanarri -=-]

When was the last XML update prior to this one? How many updates do we get a year on average? 1 or 2?

They've been coming at a rate of around 1 per year. Though admittedly this year it seems like they've been picking up a bit. It was really nice to see Adjacent Attacks/Trench Warfare implemented. It's nice to see the XML finally start to take some baby steps. I do agree that Lack needs to put some serious effort in the XML over the next few months to get the foundry back. There's a bunch of XML updates which should be really easy to code that would really help make the foundry a better place with much more variety. Decay to Neutral and Conditional Autodeploys being the two major ones that come to mind.

I remember when I first saw this site years ago (when my aunt and uncle first joined) the updates were coming at a rate of about one per month, maybe two months at most. At some point they took a drop and never recovered. I'm hoping the recent increase in updates is an indication that we'll be returning to the previous frequency of updates to the site.

[dolomite13]

Can the xml be written in such a way that borders would become closed rather than open based on territories held. For instance I have a territory that can assault any of 8 territories and when I conquer one of them I can no longer assault any of the other 7.

I am guessing using a blocker would do this for me.

Something like this?

Code: Select all

<continent>
<name>A not B</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<component type="mandatory">Sample A 1</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 1</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 2</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 3</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 4</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 5</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 6</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 7</component>
<component type="blocker">Sample B 8</component>
</components>
</continent>

<territory>
<name>Sample A 1</name>
<borders>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 1</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 2</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 3</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 3</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 4</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 5</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 6</border>
<border condition="A not B">Sample B 7</border>
</borders>
<coordinates>
...
</coordinates>
</territory>



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[koontz1973]

dolomite, pretty sure this could be done if you had a lot of continents with overrides.

[pamoa]

can both new feature be intergrated in the xml guide
so one doesn't have to search all the site to find it

[thenobodies80]

You right, and it's one of the few things I promised to complete before the end of this month. So gimme this week for a final review.

[ManBungalow]

So,

Is it possible to have a condition upon which,

only when A is held, B can NOT attack C

?