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by **anamainiacks** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:04 pm

koontz1973 wrote:I am just surprised that no category got all of the votes cast.

The one thing that I will take away from this is that players want to have a root of standard game play, but are more focused on having something different. Just look at the top 3 in gameplay, none have a standard gameplay and Eurasia only placed forth.

Well when the category is voting for the map with the "Best Gameplay", naturally the voting population will be looking for something different and innovative. It would be rather silly to award a "Best Gameplay" to a map with standard gameplay, no?

But yes, I too am surprised about not all categories receiving the full voting number. I thought once you're there, you might as well fill in the whole form?

by **koontz1973** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:00 pm

That is the thing that I keep hearing. Players are happy when new maps come out but unless it really is something special, it will get overlooked quickly. Out of last years maps, I very much doubt more than 3 or 4 will become classic maps for play. The rest are more than likely to be played, but no more or less than the rest of the maps.

Eurasia will probably take over World 2.1s spot as a great 8 player map and this is something we are missing a lot of. Large maps that allow for great standard 8 player games. I would not mind if a few more like this one where made.

by **Gilligan** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:07 pm

koontz1973 wrote:That is the thing that I keep hearing. Players are happy when new maps come out but unless it really is something special, it will get overlooked quickly. Out of last years maps, I very much doubt more than 3 or 4 will become classic maps for play. The rest are more than likely to be played, but no more or less than the rest of the maps.

Eurasia will probably take over World 2.1s spot as a great 8 player map and this is something we are missing a lot of. Large maps that allow for great standard 8 player games. I would not mind if a few more like this one where made.

For me, at this point there are A LOT of maps and I'm used to play a lot of the oldies and find myself not really playing new maps a lot (though I play every map at least once).

As far as "classic" maps, I'll be creating 1982 games regularly.

by **koontz1973** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:13 pm

Gilligan wrote:As far as "classic" maps, I'll be creating 1982 games regularly.

That is probably the one map that gameplay wise I am really proud of. Well, that and knights.

by **Gilligan** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:14 pm

Yeah, see Knights is another fun one. But I always find myself in tournament games and don't create my own very often, and tournament games don't *usually* include brand new maps.

by **Gillipig** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:36 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:As far as "classic" maps, I'll be creating 1982 games regularly.

That is probably the one map that gameplay wise I am really proud of. Well, that and knights.

I stared at that quote for half a minute, trying to remember when I said that, before noticing that you weren't quoting me lol.
Gilligan, we really shouldn't post in the same threads, the confusion is horrible. We'll have to split up the threads somehow

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When I see someone quoting a user who's first five letters is Gilli, I'm not even reading the last three, I'm just assuming he means me lol.

by **DoomYoshi** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:52 pm

What I am really glad about is that it seems like nobody just multi-voted, and there didn't seem to be any clan-swarming.

With multi-voting, I mean there was nothing stopping you from voting twice.

For clan-swarming, I mean the maps all won off of their merits it seems, and not a clan-influenced popularity contest, like sometimes happens on CC (I remember the Off-Topics Premium award a few months ago).

by **Gilligan** on Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:37 pm

Gillipig wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:As far as "classic" maps, I'll be creating 1982 games regularly.

That is probably the one map that gameplay wise I am really proud of. Well, that and knights.

I stared at that quote for half a minute, trying to remember when I said that, before noticing that you weren't quoting me lol.
Gilligan, we really shouldn't post in the same threads, the confusion is horrible. We'll have to split up the threads somehow .
When I see someone quoting a user who's first five letters is Gilli, I'm not even reading the last three, I'm just assuming he means me lol.

Yes, I have that confusion as well...I just see "Gilli" and assume it's me. :roll:

by **ViperOverLord** on Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:54 am

koontz1973 wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:I thought Kings Court 2 would be the big winner. I guess I forgot that a majority of players still prefer a more 'classic' sort of map. Of course, I don't mean that as a slight. Eurasia is a great map.

When you consider Eurasia had about 6 more months of play, Kings court 2, still in beta did bloody well to get the one win and the 4 second places. This was the one map that took Eurasia to the wire in a lot of the categories. Given more time, it may of won some more as well. It was also the only map in beta that took anything.

I disagree. I think the same crowd that liked KC1 are the ones that are into KC2. And I think a map only has to be in beta for so long to be known. I think KC2 hit the threshold on that front too.

by **ViperOverLord** on Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:56 am

anamainiacks wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:I thought Kings Court 2 would be the big winner. I guess I forgot that a majority of players still prefer a more 'classic' sort of map. Of course, I don't mean that as a slight. Eurasia is a great map.

When you consider Eurasia had about 6 more months of play, Kings court 2, still in beta did bloody well to get the one win and the 4 second places. This was the one map that took Eurasia to the wire in a lot of the categories. Given more time, it may of won some more as well. It was also the only map in beta that took anything.

That's not true, they've had equal amount of play on the site.

Eurasia went live into BETA on 3 May 2012, and was officially quenched on 12 September 2012.

King's Court 2 went live into BETA on 16 April 2012 (17 days earlier than Eurasia) but hasn't yet been quenched because of the need to iron out game mechanics and stuff like that, which is understandable since it is a more complex map. It probably still had less games played on it in part due to its BETA tag, since many players stay away from such maps incase of gameplay changes midway.

King's Court 2 is definitely an excellent map, but like what ViperOverLord mentioned, 'classic' gameplay is ultimately more popular than the complex ones, so I don't think the results would have changed much. That said, the complex maps definitely add much variety in gameplay and strategies into the site, and are very much integral to the entertainment factors of the site (:

Congratulations to all winners and mapmakers, and thanks for giving us so many choices to play on!

Reading this after my last my last post. Worthy of the bump.

by **Dukasaur** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:08 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Ok, I sorted the maps based on how many awards they won and some arbitrary point system. If you want to rank them in your own way (say, by counting ties as full score, or by reducing the best new mapmaker award) you can. As expected, Eurasia and KCII were neck and neck. Not counting the Map of the Year Award, Eurasia Mini was only 1 point behind KCII though. DoomYoshi Nominees Africa II and Island of Doom didn't get any awards. KCII was not nominated for a Yoshi, namely because I don't like it that much. I expect Baltic to crush every category next year (except Big Game maybe).

Total Awards Score (Third Place counts 2 points, Second Place Counts 4 Points, First Place Counts 6, a tie counts -1 points)
Eurasia 25(5/4/0/1) 1st Place, Best Large Game Map; 1st Place, Team Game Map; 1st Place, Graphics; 3rd Place Tie, Gameplay; 1st Place, Best Map
King's Court II 21(5/1/4/0) 2nd Place, Best Large Game Map; 2nd Place, Team Game Map; 2nd Place Tie, Graphics; 1st Place, Gameplay; 2nd Place, Best Map
Eurasia Mini 16 (3/2/1/0) First Place, Best Small Game Map; Second Place, Best map for 1v1;1st Place, Ease of Use
Knights 15(3/2/1/0)Second Place, Best Small Game Map; First Place, Best map for 1v1; 1st Place Tie, Most Original
Dark Continent 9 (4/0/2/2) Third Place Tie, Best Small Game Map; 2nd Place Tie, Graphics; 2nd Place Tie, Gameplay; 3rd Place, Best Map
Salem's Switch 8(2/1/1/0) 2nd Place Tie, Gameplay; 1st Place Tie, Most Original
Trench Warfare 7 (4/0/0/4) Third Place, Best map for 1v1; Third Place, Best Large Game Map; 3rd Place, Team Game Map; 3rd Place Tie, Most Original
Cuban Missile Crisis, 7(2/1/0/1) 3rd Place Tie, Most Original; 1st Place, Best New Mapmaker
New Jersey 5(3/0/0/3)Third Place Tie, Best Small Game Map; 3rd Place, Ease of Use; 3rd Place, Best New Mapmaker
Classic Cities: London 5 (2/0/1/1) Third Place Tie, Best Small Game Map;2nd Place, Ease of Use
Kingdom of Denmark 5(2/0/1/1) Third Place Tie, Best Small Game Map; 2nd Place, Best New Mapmaker
Patch Wars 4 (1/0/1/0) 2nd Place, Most Original
Classic Cities: Pot Mosbi 4 (2/0/0/2)3rd Place, Graphics; 3rd Place Tie, Gameplay
Magyarország (0)
Istanbul (0)
Classic Cities: Jakarta (0)
Classic Cities: Sydney (0)
Copenhagen (0)
1982 (0)
Rail Asia (0)
Africa II - SOS Africa Reward Map (0)
Island of Doom (0)

This has inspired my FORTY-FIFTH tournament: The Forgotten Nine

by **ender516** on Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:42 pm

I felt a little bit about not voting this year. I was a bit busy in RL. But seeing the whole list here, I know that it is better that I didn't vote, as there are so many that I have had almost no contact with. It does give me a list of maps I should try, though.