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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby dakky21 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:15 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Science fiction can come in to main parts, Star Wars is purely science fiction all the way, Star Trek has elements of science fact about it. But both are science fantasy.


I'm just saying you're mixing fantasy world with SF.
Star Trek is also SF, just like Star Wars. You don't put light sabers and teleport in same universe? Teleport is "somewhat" real and light saber's aren't?

If the map is based on sci-fi, then the fantasy world is out. Of course they can be mixed, but why there is no choice for that?

edit: I mis-read definately all of it, but anyway, don't mix fantasy with sci-fi, it is two different genres :)
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby ender516 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:47 pm

Funny how different people use the same terms different ways. I would not say there is science fact in Star Trek, but I would call it "hard" sci-fi. Star Wars, with its mystical "Force" seems a little softer, leaning to science fantasy. (The Force was mystical to me in the original trilogy. I have heard indirectly that other stories have tried to give it more of a scientific basis, but I don't have anything first-hand on that.)
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:59 pm

Science fiction is fantasy. We cannot travel at warp speed to distant planets. No one can carry around a light sword, who would not like a robot to do the house hold chores or to play with the kids. These three are science fiction, but also fantasy when played in the imagination of a 10 year old. Whilst science fiction and fantasy can be classed as two different things (sci-fi based on the plausable) you have a genre of fantasy call science fantasy. Stories that contain a mix of fantasy and science fiction elements. Trek and Wars belong in this category. Where does Avatar fit into the definition? Science fiction elements include the futuristic part, giant machines, space travel and Aliens. The fantasy part comes from the aliens though. They have no science. At the end of the film one character transforms from human to Na’vi, moves from the world of science fiction to that of fantasy. :D

Popular sicence fantasy include:
Star Wars, Dune, The Golden Compass, The Gods of Mars, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:13 pm

ender516 wrote: I would not say there is science fact in Star Trek


Hypospray - Injectors like this have been in use for many years.
Personal communicators - who does not have a mobile telephone today?
Phasers - wicked lasers spider 3 is the closest today :mrgreen:

Universal Translator - these are now around. Iphone have it I think.
Medical tricorders - A competition was won by a couple of students to build one of these for real. It had to diagnose 10 different things.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby ender516 on Wed May 01, 2013 12:09 am

koontz1973 wrote:
ender516 wrote: I would not say there is science fact in Star Trek


Hypospray - Injectors like this have been in use for many years.
Personal communicators - who does not have a mobile telephone today?
Phasers - wicked lasers spider 3 is the closest today :mrgreen:

Universal Translator - these are now around. Iphone have it I think.
Medical tricorders - A competition was won by a couple of students to build one of these for real. It had to diagnose 10 different things.

Ah, but none of these things existed when Star Trek was created by Gene Roddenberry in the mid 1960's. In my mind, it is science fiction if plausible technological advancements could bring about the essential elements of the story, so clearly Star Trek falls into that category. You are almost making my point for me. But the human brain will never be a source of telekinetic power, so the Force remains fantasy. (Inb4 someone says Star Wars does not portray humans, but humanoids who lived "long ago in a galaxy far far away".)

In my mind, science fiction is not fantasy. If it is supernatural, it is fantasy. If it might be natural, but we don't yet have the skills or evidence, then it can be science fiction. There is perhaps a spectrum between these two concepts: after all, Clarke's Third Law of Prediction is "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Now you have me thinking about what distinguishes science fiction from "mainstream" fiction. In some ways, the "CSI" TV series are just barely science fiction in my mind, because what they do could be possible, but in reality, you do not get DNA results overnight. (But someday, perhaps we will.) And what about a novel like Harry Turtledove's "Supervolcano: Eruption"? It describes an eruption in Yellowstone Park, the likes of which has not been seen in over 600,000 years, but which geologists recognize as a real possibility. But we don't know precisely what the effects would be, so it is speculative fiction (another term occasionally used instead of science fiction).
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby isaiah40 on Wed May 01, 2013 12:18 am

koontz1973 wrote:Phasers - wicked lasers spider 3 is the closest today :mrgreen:

Damn now I want one!! :lol:
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Wed May 01, 2013 12:21 am

Science fiction is like pornography. You may not be able to describe it, but you know it when you see it. O:)

This is the problem with polls that I think we can all agree on, no matter how it it worded or how many different subjects we place on them, people around the world will always have different definitions for them. When we start to draw this, a lot of leeway can be given to the artist to come up with something new.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Wed May 01, 2013 1:03 am

Tournament six. One spot left.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Wed May 01, 2013 1:13 am

Forgot to say last week. Showing your support medals go to rjhankey and macbone.

rjhankey (Week 4)
macbone (Week 5)

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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby thehippo8 on Wed May 01, 2013 2:09 am

I chose contemporary fantasy ... partly because no-one else seems to be talking about it, partly because I had to look it up to properly understand it, partly because Artemis Fowl is one of my all time favourite stories, partly because of the cross-overs with other things (like 666 Park Ave, Under the Mountain, Lovecraft, The Man in Yellow and a gizzillion other things) and partly because I like forging new roads rather than arguing old stuff!
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby isaiah40 on Wed May 01, 2013 10:28 am

thehippo8 wrote:I chose contemporary fantasy ... partly because no-one else seems to be talking about it, partly because I had to look it up to properly understand it, partly because Artemis Fowl is one of my all time favourite stories, partly because of the cross-overs with other things (like 666 Park Ave, Under the Mountain, Lovecraft, The Man in Yellow and a gizzillion other things) and partly because I like forging new roads rather than arguing old stuff!

And partly because you really enjoy saying and partly because! :lol:
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Wed May 01, 2013 11:35 pm

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New tournament for sign ups. Clink the link to take you there. :D
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby iamkoolerthanu on Thu May 02, 2013 9:33 am

koontz1973 wrote:Image

New tournament for sign ups. Clink the linkbanner to take you there. :D

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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby betiko on Thu May 02, 2013 9:39 am

so what's up with the clan thing with champions you're organizing koontz, is it this week? can we learn a little more of what it's about?
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 02, 2013 9:44 am

betiko wrote:so what's up with the clan thing with champions you're organizing koontz, is it this week? can we learn a little more of what it's about?

Clan sign ups will finish on the forth. I will let everyone know what the 3 challenges are then and any rules that will go with them.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby macbone on Thu May 02, 2013 11:41 am

Woot! Thanks for the medal, koontz!

I have to say, I like all of these choices. I voted for Science Fantasy because it's under-represented here on CC, but I'd be happy with any of these options.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:52 am

macbone wrote:Woot! Thanks for the medal, koontz!

I have to say, I like all of these choices. I voted for Science Fantasy because it's under-represented here on CC, but I'd be happy with any of these options.

Your welcome to the medal, thanks for the support.

changed my vote as well from high to science. This is going to be another close one I feel. All we need now is a banner and we can make sure this poll goes through the roof. Now, where is an admin when you want one?
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:45 pm

#Just for fun

Question for you?

What place is mentioned in this sentence?
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby king15 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:51 pm

koontz1973 wrote:#Just for fun

Question for you?

What place is mentioned in this sentence?


Is the answer CC - Conquer Club....lol I'm probably way off. :D
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 02, 2013 11:52 pm

Yep, way of. :P
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby Seamus76 on Fri May 03, 2013 12:24 am

koontz1973 wrote:#Just for fun

Question for you?

What place is mentioned in this sentence?
Is it the C (sea)?
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Fri May 03, 2013 12:43 am

Seamus76 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:#Just for fun

Question for you?

What place is mentioned in this sentence?
Is it the C (sea)?

Maybe. 8-[

You are getting a lot warmer though.
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby jimfinn on Fri May 03, 2013 12:53 am

It's the RED SEA :D
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby koontz1973 on Fri May 03, 2013 1:06 am

jimfinn wrote:It's the RED SEA :D

And we have a winner.

Your prize is this.
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#Just for fun

Question for you?

Why is it easy to get into Florida?
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]

Postby ender516 on Fri May 03, 2013 7:21 am

Because they leave their Keys just lying around.
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