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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 12:02 pmby koontz1973
Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 12:38 pmby betiko
yey!
Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 3:04 pmby CJ Lues
I can kick myself!!! I though i had sent mine in..!!!
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Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 3:53 pmby JaneAusten
Dukasaur wrote:CJ Lues wrote:koontz1973 wrote:This part is just examples of what can be done. Not what will be done. You have miss read what Jane asked for. She wanted examples of literature so some of the players who may not be acquainted with fantasy would understand a lot easier what each one does.
+1
Unfortunately it is misleading. I notice the votes for High Fantasy have pulled ahead again since you inserted "Lord of the Lings", but we are obviously not going to be making an LOTR map.
The categories were clear enough as they were, they didn't need "examples" which just serve to prejudice the vote.
My apologies if this made things worse. I am not terribly familiar with the distinctions b/w different types of fantasy, and thought if 2-3 examples of well-known books or movies or tv shows were posted, it would helpful to those like me.
Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 10:40 pmby koontz1973
JaneAustin wrote:Dukasaur wrote:CJ Lues wrote:koontz1973 wrote:This part is just examples of what can be done. Not what will be done. You have miss read what Jane asked for. She wanted examples of literature so some of the players who may not be acquainted with fantasy would understand a lot easier what each one does.
+1
Unfortunately it is misleading. I notice the votes for High Fantasy have pulled ahead again since you inserted "Lord of the Lings", but we are obviously not going to be making an LOTR map.
The categories were clear enough as they were, they didn't need "examples" which just serve to prejudice the vote.
My apologies if this made things worse. I am not terribly familiar with the distinctions b/w different types of fantasy, and thought if 2-3 examples of well-known books or movies or tv shows were posted, it would helpful to those like me.
Honestly, I do not see what was done as influencing people. Many many times has a person come in asking for a game of thrones map and low fantasy had low votes.
Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Sun May 05, 2013 11:14 pmby macbone
I know, and the Science Fantasy category doesn't even include Star Wars, arguably the most well-known science fantasy of them all. In truth, you could argue that most science fiction is in fact science fantasy, and many bookstores include science fiction in the fantasy section. But in defense of Jane, she did specify books, not movies.
Also, many of these categories bleed into each other. Harry Potter, for instance, is both Contemporary Fantasy and High Fantasy.
Other examples of science fantasy:
the John Carter series
Terry Brooks' Shannara
Dragon Ball Z
More Low Fantasy:
Conan
The Green Mile
Preacher (wow, a map based on Preacher? Sign me up!)
A Song of Fire and Ice is actually High Fantasy, not Low Fantasy. It has dragons and supernatural entities, for one thing. Low fantasy is primarily set in the "real world," whatever that entails, while high fantasy takes place in a completely fictional world with its own laws of physics.
Other high fantasy works:
The Northern Lights
The Chronicles of Narnia
Dungeons and Dragons
Wheel of Time
Discworld
The Dark Tower (elements of the supernatural, magic)
Harry Potter (yes, it takes place in the contemporary world, but most of the action takes place in the wizarding world, which is definitely High Fantasy - wizards, dragons, mythological beasts, etc.)
Alice in Wonderland
Malazan
The Black Company (yes, it's dark, but it's in a different world with its own rules)
For Contemporary Fantasy, you could have things like
The Dresden Files
Fables
Thor (high fantasy as well)
Hellboy (as Lovecraftian as comics get, so dark fantasy, too)
Preacher (again!)
Harry Potter (fits here, too)
Lewis' That Hideous Strength
Mary Poppins (hah!)
His Dark Materials (again)
more Dark Fantasy:
The Dark Tower
the Elric books
The Black Company
So don't despair! High Fantasy is a broad enough category to contain many different types of maps.
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Sun May 05, 2013 11:18 pmby koontz1973
All challenges have now been posted or announced.
Challenge one - games - start today.
Challenge two - scavanger hunt - Saturday
Challenge three - Graphics - All week
Good luck clans.
Re: #GCCM [Week 5 - Fantasy] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 5:00 amby koontz1973
A great week here on #GCCM. We start looking away from graphics and into game play. This week, we will look at types of bonus regions you want to use.
Continental Most maps use a continental bonus system. Hold a set region to get a set number of reinforcements.
Resource Look towards AOR series for this one. Hold two connecting regions for a bonus. Bonuses can expand heavily and fast with this type.
Continental with keyTwo maps come to mind here. Supermax (Gang boss) and Rorke's Drift (chieftain). Hold as many regions of a bonus area as you like, but until you take the boss, you get nothing.
Expanding Antarctica has this. The more you hold in an area, the more you get. Does not need to hold all of it and no key is required. Vertex and Austrum also use this type of bonus but for them, it needs to be connected.
No bonusesAs it says. No bonus regions at all. If this wins, auto deploys will become as must feature on the map.
Here.
Clan week has started.
Live chat tomorrow.
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Mon May 06, 2013 5:27 amby koontz1973
All clan games have been sent out to champion. Normal sitting rules apply. Join one game from each PM. If you are not sure, ask. You have 48 hours from this point on to join all 5 games.
Good luck.
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 6:27 amby dakky21
For this week, I chose Resource style as there practically only 3 maps on the site based on that gameplay (and that would be AoR's)
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 6:48 amby koontz1973
dakky21 wrote:For this week, I chose Resource style as there practically only 3 maps on the site based on that gameplay (and that would be AoR's)
And you have to ask yourself why? With over 200 maps, why only three of this type? What makes map makers hate making this type of map? Why are those three popular maps, is it because of the resources?
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 6:58 amby macbone
And I went with Continental (with key) - Conquer Rome is another example of this type.
It makes for different game play, and some parts of the bonus are more strategic than others.
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 7:54 amby Dukasaur
dakky21 wrote:For this week, I chose Resource style as there practically only 3 maps on the site based on that gameplay (and that would be AoR's)
I also voted Resource!
However, as a point of information, I have to correct you: there are other maps that use Resource collection bonuses -- Dawn of Ages and Age of Merchants pop into my mind as obvious examples, and I'm sure there's others.
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:07 amby iamkoolerthanu
Continental with key, we can have some fun here
Second choice for me would be no bonuses!
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:14 amby iamkoolerthanu
Nice this should be fun
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:56 amby dakky21
Dukasaur wrote:However, as a point of information, I have to correct you: there are other maps that use Resource collection bonuses -- Dawn of Ages and Age of Merchants pop into my mind as obvious examples, and I'm sure there's others.
Maybe you're right, but they're not similar to the bonus system in AoR (get a lot (20 or more) of bonuses quickly)
And to answer Koontz - I belive it is hard to code all possible pairs with all other regions, so that may be the reason for not making those maps.
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 11:08 amby mint-murray
So do resources need to be mixed ? i.e. - do the cups and swords in Labyrinth count as resources or would that come under continental with key ?
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 11:13 amby koontz1973
mint-murray wrote:So do resources need to be mixed ? i.e. - do the cups and swords in Labyrinth count as resources or would that come under continental with key ?
The swords and cups in Labs map are considered as normal continent bonuses. Hold x,y,& z to get +???.
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Mon May 06, 2013 2:57 pmby benga
Well...
All maps are beta, hopefully there won't be any ground breaking gameplay changes while games are on
or this is just ridiculous...
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 4:00 pmby mint-murray
Resources it is for me, i'm rubbish at existing ones - so could be on the ball with this from scratch.
Re: #GCCM [Week 6 - Bonuses] [Competition Post 2]
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Mon May 06, 2013 5:21 pmby bragsie
With key like super max, now that map rocks, let's have that and go a or on it superb work guys
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Mon May 06, 2013 10:41 pmby koontz1973
No, the maps have been chosen so that will not happen. 3 of the 5 have been out now for a while and all major changes have happened. 2 of them are newer, but as they are mine, I will be slow on the updates this week if any.
The beta maps have been chosen for two reasons.
If you spot a mistake, you will report it.
No one is an expert on them yet. This levels the playing field more.
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Tue May 07, 2013 12:52 amby Genoke
koontz1973 wrote:The beta maps have been chosen for two reasons.
If you spot a mistake, you will report it.
No one is an expert on them yet. This levels the playing field more.
To bad the champions name depends on those small drop/dice luck based maps...
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Tue May 07, 2013 1:27 amby benga
Genoke wrote:koontz1973 wrote:The beta maps have been chosen for two reasons.
If you spot a mistake, you will report it.
No one is an expert on them yet. This levels the playing field more.
To bad the champions name depends on those small drop/dice luck based maps...
It's nothing to do with being champ, we just test some of koontz maps,
may the best glitch finder win
Re: Clan Week is here. All three challenges posted. Good luc
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Tue May 07, 2013 2:08 amby skillfusniper33
koontz1973 wrote:No, the maps have been chosen so that will not happen. 3 of the 5 have been out now for a while and all major changes have happened. 2 of them are newer, but as they are mine, I will be slow on the updates this week if any.
The beta maps have been chosen for two reasons.
If you spot a mistake, you will report it.
No one is an expert on them yet. This levels the playing field more.
I never got a PM with the games. I am the "Champion" from Agents of the Chaotic Empire
, one at 83 
and another at 45