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Re: World Cities

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:18 pm

It'll be good to ask Lack---but my initial thoughts are that it's fine.


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Re: World Cities

Postby killerpit4e on Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:18 pm

sully800 wrote:Here is my first draft of the World Cities map. My goal for this map is to create a map of the world that is of standard size (instead of the very large World 2.1). I know that we cannot create a map of the world countries that is too similar to the old classic map, so I have decided to highlight some of the most important cities from different countries around the world.

Because I am using cities instead of countries, all connections will be shown directly (instead of showing zone borders). Each region will be made of zones connected by lines, similar to Midkermia. Please ignore the current aesthetics of the shadows and lines, I understand it does not look very good. I intend to curve the lines to make all connections more aesthetically pleasing once the zones are finalized. Army shadows probably will not be used in the final version, but are shown here for simplicity.

Comments on the region images, colors, title, and bonus labels are welcome.

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42 countries, 6 continents

No unique gameplay items, this map will be exceptionally "standard".

Very traditional gameplay in terms of the continent size, and number of connections between territories


hey i will do the xml for ya if ya want
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Re: World Cities

Postby sailorseal on Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:52 pm

Cains! That's it upper right corner of Australia, nice city. Now I remember!
Also add Stalingrad and Alaska's Capital.
The graphics seem pretty good so far so I wold focus on balancing the left and right side of the board from a GP perspective
Athens, Dubai and Cairo should all connect.
I would also change Singapore to connect with Nairobi instead of Cape Town
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Re: World Cities

Postby Astoria on Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:03 pm

sailorseal wrote:Also add Stalingrad


FYI : It is called Volgograd for almost 50 years by now. In the name of Volga river on which it stays. Volga is the largest river in Europe.
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Re: World Cities

Postby tlane on Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:48 pm

sailorseal wrote:Also add Stalingrad and Alaska's Capital.


Alaska most known city is probably Anchorage.

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Re: World Cities

Postby GrimReaper. on Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:12 pm

i think hes trying to make it similar to classic but with citys right???
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Re: World Cities

Postby sailorseal on Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:17 pm

What about Classic Cities?
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Re: World Cities

Postby GrimReaper. on Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:21 pm

correct me if im wrong but i think hie is trying to make it like classic (shape wise)
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Re: World Cities

Postby sully800 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:50 pm

I'm trying to establish the best possible gameplay for a 42 territory map of cities of the world.

Next update should be finished tonight. Mostly its minor changes to certain city names
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Re: World Cities

Postby sully800 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:10 pm

V2

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Changes
Hawaii --> Honolulu
Quebec --> Montreal
Budapest --> Berlin
Astana --> Novoslotsofotherletters
Quezon City --> Manila
Brasilia --> Buenos Aires
Denver --> Las Vegas

Also, I added the globe to the title, and the compass on the bottom left. Changed the colors of each city label to match the bonus region. Switched around a lot of connections so they would make more sense, while keeping gameplay very close to the same.
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Re: World Cities (V2, 3/29/09)

Postby Merciless Wong on Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:13 pm

You should see Prince Of The City - I've been doing a line based vanilla map for some time but this is different and cool.
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Re: World Cities (V2, 3/29/09)

Postby edbeard on Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:28 pm

=D>


the pink or whatever it is for South America doesn't fit well with the other colours. orange maybe? this becomes especially evident in the legend. 5 ones that fit fairly well together (maybe Oceania looks a bit "off" compared to the others as well) and then South America which looks strange. Like it's missing its colour or something. the rest are all somewhat deep so it doesn't work for me there or on the map itself.

the compass stands out too much

the globe/title might stand out a little too much as well.


gameplay seems fine. I've been over it a few times and it looks ok. though it's almost classic exactly?


I think you said earlier that circles and connections are just to help talk about gameplay because that's really my only other gripe.
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Re: World Cities (V2, 3/29/09)

Postby sully800 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:00 pm

This update is just for you ed!

I tried the orange for SA and rather like it (I was initially afraid it might be confused with the yellow in africa, but that doesn't seem to be a problem). I toned down the title and compass just a tad, but I think they will still need additional blending. I also reversed my gradient for the ocean which I think improved the look dramatically so I thought I should post this for you all.

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Re: World Cities (V3, 3/30/09)

Postby sully800 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:24 pm

Tisha wrote:you should make the width 630.. it looks like you could use the space


Done! I think I had been misreading the height and weight restrictions previously

Joodoo wrote:1.Include two more cities:Lagos and Buenos Aires
2.Would it possible for Cairo and Dubai to become adjacent?
2.Is there a way to make it more clear that Athens belongs to Europe only (unless you want it to a transcontinental territory)?


I switched Brasilia to Buenos Aires but I don't want to add cities to SA or Africa. I think a map of this size will play much better with some "easy" to grab bonus regions, and 5 cities makes it to hard.

For the same reason, I don't want the Africa cities to border the Asia ones, because Africa is one of the low bonus regions. Tying it to three different continents makes it too hard to defend for 2 bonus troops. As you have probably noticed, I did switch the Africa connection to the more obvious location of Cairo.

DJ Teflon wrote:I'd suggest swapping Rio for Sao Paulo. According to my unreliable memory, Sao Paolo is the biggest city in Brazil.


You are correct that Sao Paulo is larger (in fact one of the 7 largest cities in the world!) Tokyo, NYC, Mexico City, and Mumbai are already included. Seoul is too close to South Korea in my opinion, even though its in the top 7. Jakarta is the 6th, so maybe it should replace Singapore after all? I think you've made a good enough case for Sao Paulo though simply on size.

sailorseal wrote:Cains! That's it upper right corner of Australia, nice city. Now I remember!
Also add Stalingrad and Alaska's Capital.
The graphics seem pretty good so far so I wold focus on balancing the left and right side of the board from a GP perspective
Athens, Dubai and Cairo should all connect.
I would also change Singapore to connect with Nairobi instead of Cape Town
Great Idea and Great Map!


Cairns I'm still debating. I don't want to add another territory to Australia, so it would replace Perth if I decide to add it. Perth's position is much more favorable though (Melbourne, Sydney and Cairns are basically in a line). People know Cairns on CC simply because of the town's most famous poster. Perth is much larger and in a better location so I think it will stay.

Volgograd (Stalingrad) is too close to Moscow and Tehran. Tehran could be switched, but Moscow is the real problem.

I originally included Anchorage in my draft instead of Edmonton, but I think it connects awkwardly with the rest of NA. Also the USA already has the most cities on the map, so adding another to Canada seems reasonable to me. I suppose I could include both, but NA is already the largest continent, and 42 territories is much better than 43.

What do you feel is imbalanced about the current gameplay?

edbeard wrote:I think you said earlier that circles and connections are just to help talk about gameplay because that's really my only other gripe.


Correct. I don't have an exact plan, but the current straight lines exist because they are simpler to redraw than curves. I think in the end I will have curved connections like an airline map and no army shadows when the xml is complete.

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Re: World Cities (V3, 3/30/09)

Postby Danyael on Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:36 pm

very nice look to the maps i thing the capitals are good doesn't make it look as busy
as well should we see Greenland on the top left side just wondering
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