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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby alex951 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:29 am

alex here, i would like to help. i have alway wanted to make my own maps but just don't know how, but i would luv to help someone else achieve success.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby oaktown on Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:12 am

alex951 wrote:alex here, i would like to help. i have alway wanted to make my own maps but just don't know how, but i would luv to help someone else achieve success.

Thanks alex! Unfortunately we are in the process of contacting a first group, but I've added your name to the list of volunteers who will be contacted if/when we need replacements or when we get a second team up and running.

All others are free to add your names here - we hope to get as many folks involved in this as possible.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby alex951 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:47 pm

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alex951 wrote:alex here, i would like to help. i have alway wanted to make my own maps but just don't know how, but i would luv to help someone else achieve success.

Thanks alex! Unfortunately we are in the process of contacting a first group, but I've added your name to the list of volunteers who will be contacted if/when we need replacements or when we get a second team up and running.

All others are free to add your names here - we hope to get as many folks involved in this as possible.


its all good just let me know when/if i'm needed. thank you
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:40 pm

yo, can you show us who's on the first team? i don't wanna end up on the b-team with a bunch of scrubs if the first team is really good
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby oaktown on Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:27 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:yo, can you show us who's on the first team? i don't wanna end up on the b-team with a bunch of scrubs if the first team is really good

gimil was preparing an announcement, but then he up and took off for a vacation. I'll try to post something shortly.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:17 am

whitestazn88 wrote:yo, can you show us who's on the first team? i don't wanna end up on the b-team with a bunch of scrubs if the first team is really good

Oh dear, whitesatazn88, you don't wanna be on the B team with me. :(
I understand though what you're saying...
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby oaktown on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:30 am

Hi mapper,

Despite the recent handing in of our CA badges, the two of us haven't ended our quest to make the foundry ever better in a continually evolving Conquer Club. Recently you may have noticed our plan for a map incubator experiment. We heard from many interested parties, both foundry veterans and new faces, who took an interest in participating. Unfortunately we couldn't take everyone for this first; we tried to put together a group that had a range of experience levels, ranks, and points of view. Those of you that didn't get picked still may have a chance to play your part in the future - either to replace members who need to drop out, or in future teams.

Now without further ado, here is the very first Map Incubator Team (MIT):

    1. Oaktown
    2. Gimil
    3. The.killing.44
    4. Sailorseal
    5. Lancehoch
    6. Bruceswar
    7. Lokisgal
    8. Hwhrhett
    9. S3xt0y
    10. GrimReaper.

The role of this team will be to follow a selection of map development threads within the foundry from start to finish, providing consistent and high quality feedback throughout the process. They will collectively discuss what it will take for a map to achieve its next stamp, and guide the mapmaker in that direction. The team will be working closely with the Cartography Assistants and Stampers to maintain the Foundry's high standards and expectations.

Should this initial experiment be successful we will look into expanding this experiment to involve more teams. We will also consider the possible advantages that such a team approach to mapmaking and feedback could have for the foundry at large.

So lets welcome our first incubator team!

Happy mapping,
gimil and oaktown
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby barterer2002 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:13 am

Oak if you're looking for B team members let me know I'm always willing to help out although I have no idea how to do any graphic stuff.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby TaCktiX on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:49 pm

The question is which map is subject to the first Incubator? That's missing from the announcement in my opinion.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby the.killing.44 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:56 pm

Japan
Flanders
Goblin Tribes
First Nations

I think I'm allowed to say that? :P
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby oaktown on Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:08 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Japan
Flanders
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I think I'm allowed to say that? :P
.44

Of course - I mentioned this in each of the threads, but failed to include it here. Thanks '44.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby squishyg on Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:34 pm

I volunteer to help incubate! I have little to no experience foundrying and am lovely and supportive to all.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby sailorc on Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:24 am

I'll do it.

I'm fairly new here but I plan on getting more involved in the foundry. I'm getting photoshop 6.0 today, maybe after I learn how to use it I could help others
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:55 pm

i suppose cairns and i would make a solid foundation for the b-team lol
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:00 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:i suppose cairns and i would make a solid foundation for the b-team lol

That's nicely positive isn't it? :)
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby oaktown on Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:07 pm

cairnswk wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:i suppose cairns and i would make a solid foundation for the b-team lol

That's nicely positive isn't it? :)

indeed... in putting together the first group it was clear that we had the makings of two, but with gimil away from his computer for a bit now wasn't the time. I'm keeping a running list of volunteers, so when we see how this first round goes we'll consider another.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment

Postby captainwalrus on Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:23 pm

How does a map get chosen to be incubated?
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby oaktown on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:28 pm

Four weeks ago I posted a call out for folks to join me in a little experiment. Just over two weeks into the actual implementation phase I am prepared to declare this little experiment a failure.

I've sent out several PMs to the folks involved... at first I was just asking for them to acknowledge that they'd received the PM, and I received only one response. Since then I've asked them to stop by each of our four threads and make a quick "hello" post, which didn't happen. Then I got more specific and gave everyone an assignment, which only one member has done. In fact, the total number of posts left in the target threads by members other than me is ten, and those have all been by one individual (who is also a site moderator). The other seven members have totaled zero posts by my count - maybe I missed one or two, but in searching their recent post histories I see no foundry activity at all for some of them.

I'm not going to knock myself out trying to get folks to do something they clearly don't want to do (even if they volunteered). Those involved should never again criticize the Foundry,its leadership, or its mapmakers for work that they themselves were unwilling to do.

And as I don't want this to turn into yet another foundry bitch session, I'll be asking that this thread be locked.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby Kotaro on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:32 pm

Oak, don't give up on this. Honestly, with the crew you picked, I'm not overly surprised. Pick better and try again, and it'll work.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:37 pm

Kotaro wrote:Oak, don't give up on this. Honestly, with the crew you picked, I'm not overly surprised. Pick better and try again, and it'll work.

Yes, why don't you give team 2 a go. I for one will be in there ( with nice positive stuff) ;)
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:37 pm

you've got so much heart oaktown. At least you tried.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby Kotaro on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:39 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Oak, don't give up on this. Honestly, with the crew you picked, I'm not overly surprised. Pick better and try again, and it'll work.

Yes, why don't you give team 2 a go. I for one will be in there ( with nice positive stuff) ;)


Exactly. Give Team2 a go.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:52 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Oak, don't give up on this. Honestly, with the crew you picked, I'm not overly surprised. Pick better and try again, and it'll work.

Yes, why don't you give team 2 a go. I for one will be in there ( with nice positive stuff) ;)


And to add to that, Oak, isn't everyone on summer holidays in the north, possibly why there hasn't been much activity lately in the foundry and why people haven't answered your PMs
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby oaktown on Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:03 am

Well, you would think that in a group of eight volunteers - most of whom have been active in other forums and playing games - somebody besides the token moderator in the bunch would make at least one post. I figured there'd be some attrition, but 90% in the first three weeks? Ouch.

Anyone else who would like to give this a try is welcome to do so... nobody said I'm the only one that can make this work. I've given a lot of hours to CC over the past three years, and spending additional hours trying to get folks to do something they wouldn't do otherwise is not my idea of time well spent.
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Re: Map Incubator Experiment (Failed)

Postby john9blue on Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:45 am

This has turned out strangely like the Mapmakers Guild...

Is mapmaking really that daunting for new cartographers? :(
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