[Official] Holiday Mafia - Game Over!

[NoSurvivors]

How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.

I have no good reason why you should not. I can't prove im town, but I have proof you might not be. What proof do you have on me to tell me that I am scum? I said name someone and tell me why. You have done 50% of that. Well done, good reading skills.

[spiesr]

Here is my attempt at an unofficial vote count. With 15 alive I believe 8 are required for a lynch.

Spiesr - 2 (Little Witt, soundman)
Soundman - 2 (IB, spiesr)
superkeener - 4 (MoB Deadly, NoSurvivors, anamainiacks, Nendreel)
MoB Deadly - 1 (thechuck51)
anamainiacks - 1 (superkeener)

[pancakemix]

Vote Count

Spiesr - 1 (soundman)
Soundman - 2 (IB, spiesr)
superkeener - 5 (mob, NoS, animaniacks, nendreel, Kanin)
MoB - 1 (thechuck)


As it stands Keener will be lynched at deadline (Feb 7). It takes 8 to lynch.

[Little Witt]

Unvote Might as well take this vote off

[spiesr]

Pancakemix, your count has superkeener and chuck having two votes and you seem to have missed rishaed's unvote on page 26. (To be fair the green doesn't stand out as much.)

Unvote Might as well take this vote off

Do you have anything to contribute while you are dropping in?

[Kanin Usagi]

Vote superkeener. As I see it now, he's the best lynch option. If something better comes up, I will gladly unvote.

[Metsfanmax]

Vote superkeener. As I see it now, he's the best lynch option. If something better comes up, I will gladly unvote.

At this point we don't necessarily need to even force L-2, because of the way the lynches will work. We might as well push the days to deadline to grab more info unless there's some particular reason to choose otherwise (obviously this could get dangerous late in the game, but for now it should be OK).

[superkeener]

Well, I guess my "rookie" mistakes have caught up with me and I will be getting lynched.
It was an omgus vote and since it was, I will unvote

Honestly, I have no solid evidence to go with on who I would choose to RB should I survive D2. Since my role is known, some help from the town would be appreciated.

[spiesr]

Well, as I alluded to earlier we can't specifically tell you who to block, as if the mafia know that one of their members is being blocked they can have someone else do the killing that night (depending on the mod). It is a decision you will have to make yourself and keep secret until the right time. You just have to use your best judgement for who you think is scummy. Once you have more experiance and have played with the other players in the game to get a general feel for how they act this get's a little bit easier, but is rarely easy.
The ultimate goal with a town roleblocker is to block the mafia nightkill. Not only does that keep a townie alive for another night, but if you can positively conclude that said roleblock is what stopped the kill (easier said than done unless the mod is giving hints) then you can use that to direct your lynching efforts.
Hitting other scum member, while not as ideal, is still useful of course. In addition to disrupting whatever secondary powers they may posses, it can be useful for revealing fakeclaims if they scum don't realize they were blocked. The key there is to not claim who you blocked until they fake an action on the night you blocked them. Of course, this creates the situation where you have to find the balance between the reward waiting on information until the right time against the risk of taking it to your grave should you die before that times comes.

[rishaed]

I agree here with speisr. Laying low here is also a good move, Posting but don't draw attention to yourself. Another thing was the early claim, especially as a PR you need to keep your role hidden as much as possible, respond to the arguments made against you with arguments on why the other arguments are invalid/ the reason why it happened. If enough people don't believe you we will vote you to L-2, in a game like this though to avoid getting lynched, I would say if you are the lynch target with 48hrs left to deadline, and it's a sizeable wagon, claim get them to unvote and try to stay alive in the night.

[pancakemix]

VC corrected and updated.

[betiko]

bah 1 day left, I don't see how this is gonna end other than with keener's lynch, might as well get this going.
vote superkeener.
A bit of a gamble, but that role will only be really usefull really later in the game. I have nothing that tells me he is scum or town, so with the doubt... anyway I don't know about that miser situation, they are not telling all the perks..

[NoSurvivors]

bah 1 day left, I don't see how this is gonna end other than with keener's lynch, might as well get this going.
vote superkeener.
A bit of a gamble, but that role will only be really usefull really later in the game. I have nothing that tells me he is scum or town, so with the doubt... anyway I don't know about that miser situation, they are not telling all the perks..

What sorts of other perks could there be? Lol. One lynched and the other auto wins.. Pretty sizeable gift to me lol, maybe we could use it to get them to give us more of their thoughts.. whoever is contributing more. Right now spies is contributing more do I'd be happier to give him the win right now. That sort of thing.

[spiesr]

bah 1 day left, I don't see how this is gonna end other than with keener's lynch, might as well get this going.
vote superkeener.

Well, I have going to have to call you on that one. Prior to your vote there were 5 votes on superkeener and 2 on Soundman. With deadline forced lynches it would have only required two people to move their vote (or some combination of people placing votes on Soundman) to change the outcome of the day's lynch. With over 24 hours remaining this would certainly have been a feasible possibility if you desired it. Now, I can't say for sure that doing so would actually be a better choice or not. However, I can state that you did/do have a choice in how this day ends and claiming otherwise is borderline dishonest. You might not have any good choices, but you do have choices.

[betiko]

bah 1 day left, I don't see how this is gonna end other than with keener's lynch, might as well get this going.
vote superkeener.

Well, I have going to have to call you on that one. Prior to your vote there were 5 votes on superkeener and 2 on Soundman. With deadline forced lynches it would have only required two people to move their vote (or some combination of people placing votes on Soundman) to change the outcome of the day's lynch. With over 24 hours remaining this would certainly have been a feasible possibility if you desired it. Now, I can't say for sure that doing so would actually be a better choice or not. However, I can state that you did/do have a choice in how this day ends and claiming otherwise is borderline dishonest. You might not have any good choices, but you do have choices.

As I said in the next phrase, I don't really know about the miser situation. By other perks I mean there might be some ying&yang thing that makes us have to keep both and killing one would unballance something for town but I don't know what... can only speculate.