ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (10/13) - D3: The Bloody Winter Rose

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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (13/13) - D1: And so it begins...

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:55 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Have you considered Neb that possibly why nobody wants to vote out someone else would be because of secondary win conditions? I assume some if not most roles have lesser win conditions that only work if they are alive. Therefore, making yourself a target may not be the most attractive option regardless of what faction you are.

Also Fir, who do you consider scum? Loyalists? Rebels? Someone else?


Okay, this makes no sense. First, how would going after Foxglove, a clear Loyalist, hurt any of the Rebels secondary win conditions? Second, why is anyone playing for a secondary win condition? Rebels should be trying to take this game by storm! Third, if the rebels vote for Foxglove, how will that make them a target? You're only a target if you are the one who has to claim. The only time claiming might be a problem is if you are like Iron and wait until L-1, and then get the quick hammer. Did you see how I claimed right away to avoid being hammered quickly?

We at least now know that Jonty and Spiesr are Loyalists...unless they are playing some mousey game of "I can't unvote or someone might think I'm a Rebel."

So, let's look at a modified list of participants...

1. Rheagar Targaryen
2. King Aerys II
3. Jon Connington

1. Robert Baratheon
2. Jon Arryn
3. Hoster Tully
4. Walder Frey

3. Jaime Lannister
12. Tywin Lannister
10. Grand Master Pycelle
11. Varys

12. Eddard Stark DEAD
13. Mace Tyrell DEAD

I see the blue as "rebellion", red as "loyalists", green as "will choose" and orange as "survivor."

Now, I still can't place if Pycelle and Varys are here...I'm guessing Pycelle is not, and Varys might be. If there is only one, I have no idea who would be in...perhaps a Greyjoy? Another Rebel?

Either way, if Rebels and Loyalists started out even, the Rebels now own the day phase. They both lost one player...but the Rebels gained me. Add in the Lannisters and we can get a lynch here. The math works out. Even a third party survivor wouldn't care who he/she voted for, as they just want to survive and have the game end quicker.

Lannisters...you don't need to decide right now if you don't want to...however, it works in your favor to at least vote with the Rebels, as that will ensure we get rid of the Loyalists, whom are my bet for the attempt on Tywin last night.

So, come on Rebels, I say we go Fox hunting... Feel free to point out where I'm wrong.

What I mean to say is that I'm assuming secondary win conditions need the individual player to remain alive. If the Rebels don't have a protective role, this means that outed rebel players could be the target of night kills from the loyalists. I'm not saying don't pursue lynches, I'm just saying that from an individual standpoint, we do risk something by revealing faction alignments.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Unvote, Vote Foxglove
Now that he has clarified his position I am willing to follow his lead right now since I don't have any better targets. Although I am a little insulted by him insinuating things about my based on me not unvoting when I hadn't posted at all, and confused why he didn't change his for to me if that is what he really thought.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby strike wolf on Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:25 pm

Vote Foxglove

Basically for misconstruing both Neb's and now Fircoal's posts as well as showing no interest in going after the opposite faction to his own.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Foxglove on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:00 pm

Hmmmm.

4 votes for me, 2 neutrals and possibly 2 rebels.

I am heading out for the day soon and I don't want to get hammered if it can be helped, so I will claim.

Guess what? We're on the same side, Neb!

I'm a rebel. The rebel, actually. I'm Robert Baratheon.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Foxglove on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:10 pm

Foxglove wrote:Hmmmm.

4 votes for me, 2 neutrals and possibly 2 rebels.

I am heading out for the day soon and I don't want to get hammered if it can be helped, so I will claim.

Guess what? We're on the same side, Neb!

I'm a rebel. The rebel, actually. I'm Robert Baratheon.


Edit: 1 neutral, 1 rebel, and 2 potential rebels.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:20 pm

Unvote

That backfired.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby The Weird One on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:21 pm

Oh, bugger...unvote.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Minister Masket on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:39 pm

I think that debacle justifies my decision to hold off on who the Lannisters will join for awhile longer.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:40 pm

Minister Masket wrote:I think that debacle justifies my decision to hold off on who the Lannisters will join for awhile longer.


Meh...I'm still up for hunting for Loyalists. I just have to regroup here...
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Commander9 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:11 pm

Apologies for lack of activity. Should pick up tomorrow or Friday with some stuff coming.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:19 pm

Commander9 wrote:Apologies for lack of activity. Should pick up tomorrow or Friday with some stuff coming.

UPDATE THE OP!
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby jonty125 on Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:17 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:I think that debacle justifies my decision to hold off on who the Lannisters will join for awhile longer.


Meh...I'm still up for hunting for Loyalists. I just have to regroup here...


At the rate we're going there will only be loyalists.

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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:13 am

jonty125 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:I think that debacle justifies my decision to hold off on who the Lannisters will join for awhile longer.


Meh...I'm still up for hunting for Loyalists. I just have to regroup here...


At the rate we're going there will only be loyalists.

unvote


Well, at this point, I don't think the Rebels can afford to NOT lynch a Loyalist. Jonty, you would be next on my list...however, I'd be open to listen to someone else's opinion. I've been leading for a couple days now...
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby jonty125 on Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:21 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Jonty, you would be next on my list


My crime?
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:14 am

jonty125 wrote:vote Neb I would like to see what faction you have aligned yourself to as well.


What was my crime that garnered your vote? Curiosity? Well...I would like to see what faction you are aligned with.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:18 am

Foxglove wrote:
Foxglove wrote:Hmmmm.

4 votes for me, 2 neutrals and possibly 2 rebels.

I am heading out for the day soon and I don't want to get hammered if it can be helped, so I will claim.

Guess what? We're on the same side, Neb!

I'm a rebel. The rebel, actually. I'm Robert Baratheon.


Edit: 1 neutral, 1 rebel, and 2 potential rebels.


Forgot to ask...Foxglove, do you know who is in your faction? Anything you can offer in terms of finding the Loyalists??
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Foxglove on Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:26 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Foxglove wrote:
Foxglove wrote:Hmmmm.

4 votes for me, 2 neutrals and possibly 2 rebels.

I am heading out for the day soon and I don't want to get hammered if it can be helped, so I will claim.

Guess what? We're on the same side, Neb!

I'm a rebel. The rebel, actually. I'm Robert Baratheon.


Edit: 1 neutral, 1 rebel, and 2 potential rebels.


Forgot to ask...Foxglove, do you know who is in your faction? Anything you can offer in terms of finding the Loyalists??


The only one I knew in my faction was Nag, unfortunately. I was hoping to see who voted for me (or not) earlier in this day to try and get an idea of who the Loyalists were, but I was afraid to let it go too far and get myself lynched.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby spiesr on Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:21 pm

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jonty125 wrote:vote Neb I would like to see what faction you have aligned yourself to as well.
What was my crime that garnered your vote? Curiosity? Well...I would like to see what faction you are aligned with.
Your crime was trying to hide your alignment after you had previously been forced to claim.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby spiesr on Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:22 pm

Also, Unvote
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:38 pm

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jonty125 wrote:vote Neb I would like to see what faction you have aligned yourself to as well.
What was my crime that garnered your vote? Curiosity? Well...I would like to see what faction you are aligned with.
Your crime was trying to hide your alignment after you had previously been forced to claim.


That makes no sense, but let's move on...the Rebels need to hang a Loyalist today, or we lose our advantage and the Lannisters.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby strike wolf on Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:25 pm

Well this game is in need of a direction. Vote KGB for being noncommittal about yesterday's lynch (Saying he would unvote regardless of loyalist or rebel claim) and currently being inactive. Also for referring to rebels in third person terms.
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:15 am

strike wolf wrote:Well this game is in need of a direction. Vote KGB for being noncommittal about yesterday's lynch (Saying he would unvote regardless of loyalist or rebel claim) and currently being inactive. Also for referring to rebels in third person terms.


So you think that some Loyalists stuck on the wagon after the claim? It's possible...
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Re: ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (11/13) - D3: The Wolf howls no mo

Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:16 am

KGB's last post in thread before today came before IB claimed loyalist. His next post anywhere was after the scene had been posted. So failure to unvote after IB claimed (especially considering he said he would regardless of side), does not indicate that he was on either side.
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Postby kgb007 on Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:58 am

i didn't get a chance to follow through on my unvote of IB bc Nag hammered so quickly, partially the fault of IB for letting it get to L1 before he claimed, as to my inactivity, i went home for thanksgiving, could barely stand playing the damn CC games on my phone
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Postby Minister Masket on Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:14 am

Not exactly the kind of answer we were hoping for really.

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