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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby pancakemix on Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:56 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby nagerous on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:24 pm

I'd like to hear more from shieldgenerator, I think he deserves some pressure after his inane night time comments when replacing and subsequent inactivity and lack of contribution.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:43 pm

pancakemix wrote:So I plan on going back and looking over the jonty and clever cases later this evening. Hopefully I'll be able to get that done. If someone else wants to do that too, that'd be pretty cool.



I'm going to re-quote what I've already said regarding the two of them, since they've done next to nothing since then.

I mounted quite a bit of pressure on Clever, firstly. While the majority of my case was based on a possible link between him and Newguy, having Newguy's honesty proven does not clear Clever comepletely, imo.

XenHu wrote:FYI: Long post, lots of quotes. Deal with it. The context is important and should not be left out.

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:its not like i sat and waited for someone to say it. i just agreed. he made a point and i agreed. what is so lazy about that. if you want i can go through the whole game and find where everyone did that and we can find them scummy to. is that what i need to do.


That's not what your actions say. What exactly have you done before this point? All I've seen from you is next to nothing. When you did post, it was mostly half-hearted attempts to convince people you were still actually a part of the game.


(Starting from Day 2)

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=495

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:hey guys sorry for inactivity. but im here and whatnot. i believe new guy.

i do think that posting in other things and not is mafia is not that big of a deal. if he posted like ALOT in them and in other mafia games then i would vote him. sometimes you just dont have the energy to read mafia. i know sometimes i dont.



viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=510
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XenHu wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:hey guys sorry for inactivity. but im here and whatnot. i believe new guy.

i do think that posting in other things and not is mafia is not that big of a deal. if he posted like ALOT in them and in other mafia games then i would vote him. sometimes you just dont have the energy to read mafia. i know sometimes i dont.



We are long passed the discussion of newguy....

:roll:

Get yourself caught up.

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trying


(Same link as above)

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
XenHu wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I get on to two new pages of material. After reading through a couple times I have decided to wait for a vote count so I dont accidentally hammer, or if I get through everything else I need to do then I will go back and look myself, but due to the impass of very little information and time constraints (cant remember if it was this game or another that was close to deadline) I will be willing to put my vote on CMS in my next post.


How hard is it to add up the votes by yourself? Really?!

everywhere116 wrote:Vote Count 1

LSU Tiger Josh: 2 (ghostly, jonty)
Not Voting: 13 (nagerous, shield, new guy, clever, edocsil, pancake, LSU, XenHu, /, soundman, crazy, cowboys, kager)


With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.


That was two pages ago. Two. Pages. You said you read them, yet somehow you missed this?

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With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline will be midnight on the 29th going on 30th.


Deadline, posted on page 31. Only four pages ago....

Christ, do you want the game to play itself? I'm seeing an alarming trend of people hopping on here and complaining there's no information, meanwhile, failing to anything of value themselves!

-X


lol ya wasnt it you new guy who said that its wierd when you dont keep a seprate vote count to yourself in a dif. game? lol contradiction much?


(And again)

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new guy1 wrote:Haha, isnt it funny how you BOTH skimmed the part where I said if I finish other obligations that I would go back and look? Christ people, Im seeing an alarming trend of skimming. Should I yell at you for that? And Clever, glad you could make it, mind adding something of substance or do you just feel like echoing?


dude i was just joking. its ok to do that right? ya i thought it was. and if anyone knows that i havent been on to read up its you new guy lol. anyway ill readd the last 5 or so and say something if i see anything.
echo

echo
echo


(etc. Actually, loooking back on it, you and Newguy were talking quite a bit)

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Haha, isnt it funny how you BOTH skimmed the part where I said if I finish other obligations that I would go back and look? Christ people, Im seeing an alarming trend of skimming. Should I yell at you for that? And Clever, glad you could make it, mind adding something of substance or do you just feel like echoing?


dude i was just joking. its ok to do that right? ya i thought it was. and if anyone knows that i havent been on to read up its you new guy lol. anyway ill readd the last 5 or so and say something if i see anything.
echo

echo
echo


Really? Sarcasm doesnt transfer and I was rather ticked that X decides to come in and just critisize while he obviously missed part of the post with his skimming, so I figured you just had nothing to add so picked a side.


no lol. last time i checked i was on your side. but ya. i read the last 3 pages. there is pressure on cms but i dont neccesarily want to vote on him just yet. i wanna see what he has to say


Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Haha, isnt it funny how you BOTH skimmed the part where I said if I finish other obligations that I would go back and look? Christ people, Im seeing an alarming trend of skimming. Should I yell at you for that? And Clever, glad you could make it, mind adding something of substance or do you just feel like echoing?


dude i was just joking. its ok to do that right? ya i thought it was. and if anyone knows that i havent been on to read up its you new guy lol. anyway ill readd the last 5 or so and say something if i see anything.
echo

echo
echo


Really? Sarcasm doesnt transfer and I was rather ticked that X decides to come in and just critisize while he obviously missed part of the post with his skimming, so I figured you just had nothing to add so picked a side.


And agree, you had the right of it at first. That seems like a bad cover by Clever.


cover for what? a joke? do i need one?


Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:No, you just need to come into the conversation and everything gets sidetracked :P. Im just kidding, but you pretty much have echoed the whole game, and I know this because every time I read your posts I already know whats going to be on the next line of it just because we already discussed it. Be part of current events :P.


lol ya i know but i find it hard to say something when everything has been said. i try to keep an open mind


Then you were quiet for a long time, only to come around later with this.

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=570

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:hey sorry guys i havent been totally active in this one. i am trying my best. i did however notice kagers scumminess in the begining. i dont think i ever voted him but i will now.vote kager

fastposted.
very good point


End of Day 2, kage bites it, nothing is heard from you until this.

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=169197&start=600
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:hey everyone just got out of final exams and my school year is over..gonna go hang with friends but will read up when i get back...i have like 4 pages left.


Which brings us to where we are now. I get grilled for a little while, and you show up when Newguy gets put in the hotseat. Just like in Day 2, actually.

-X


After that, Clever's response:

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
soundman wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
jonty125 wrote:FOS clever for laziness,

but a 3rd party claim & a stormcloak (people who might be mafia in this game if I've got this right). unvote vote newguy1 That's L-2 I believe.


Wait a minute. Why would the thalmor player have claimed to be a miller role? Thalmor are OBVIOUSLY the mafia here, otherwise he would not have fake claimed. So tell me, if your going to fos a player for shortening his statement to exactly because it was what he meant then how are you not going to catch this? I am not even on town's side yet I noticed this. You people are so funny :). Also, FOS jonty, because you know he didnt add anything :).

Why are they obviously mafia? I'd say it's quite possible they are third party. Two kills each night probably means more than one scum faction. Unless the town vig is being stupid.

I think a Survivor is a liability. It could be OK to leave them alone at the beginning of the game but as you near the end it's too dangerous to let them live. Looking at what X has just brought up it looks like there could be a connection between New Guy and Clever. And not just cause they're friends. My $0.02, lynch the Survivor. If he shows up scum then the vig (if there is one) can get Clever.

Unvote Vote New Guy


damn that kinda leaves me hurting. well i KNOW he isnt tonw so i dont even mind hammering him

and to x: i have been studying my ass off to make it through my school exams. this is why i haevnt been active. anyway you can pressure me if you want im sure you will regret it though.

fastposted



Of course, there's this now, as well:

pancakemix wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^



......So he's obviously still not paying attention, even though he posted contrary to the fact:

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:i am back and read up (thank god it was night)



On the other hand, neither is Jonty:

jonty125 wrote:
XenHu wrote:
nagerous wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
edocsil wrote:Heh. Good night. If that was busdriver shenanigans nice job there. Any chance the cop got something too?


Flavour doesn't suggest it but I doubt Thalmor would kill their own? Maybe, their are two mafias. (Thalmor & Stormcloaks)


We have had 2 kills each night - 1 of the killers I would say was not associated with the Thalmor. If I was a roleblocker, I may be thinking that I struck gold tonight. Either that or our doctor picked the right person to protect!



/ was a two-shot vig. I'm guessing that's where the extra kills came from.


-X


I am an idiot. ](*,)


Also, let us not forget that when we were pressuring Clever, with plenty of daytime left, this is what Jonty had to say:

XenHu wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
jonty125 wrote:FOS clever for laziness,

but a 3rd party claim & a stormcloak (people who might be mafia in this game if I've got this right). unvote vote newguy1 That's L-2 I believe.


Wait a minute. Why would the thalmor player have claimed to be a miller role? Thalmor are OBVIOUSLY the mafia here, otherwise he would not have fake claimed. So tell me, if your going to fos a player for shortening his statement to exactly because it was what he meant then how are you not going to catch this? I am not even on town's side yet I noticed this. You people are so funny :). Also, FOS jonty, because you know he didnt add anything :).


Let me put it this way to you - BCS you're actually scum and we lynch you. WCS - you're a survivor. If you were survivor I'd be pleased if we lynched you, same with scum. So tell me, why I shouldn't lynch you.

newguy1 wrote: I am not begging for my survival
I'm offering one last throw of the dice?



Lynching him right now would be a huge waste of the time we have left. I'm not saying he shouldn't be lynched, but your timing is beyond terrible. As he said before, have you not noticed the last page or so worth of pressure mounted against Clever?

Pushing hard for a lynch like this isn't going to earn you any favor, that's for sure. As it stands, you just just added yourself to the list of people wot I believe we should be looking into come Day 4. Never mind earlier suspicions that were levied against you.

-X


So, for now...

FOS: Clever

For being a derp. Why exactly are you voting against a dead man? How could you have missed that?

Vote: Jonty

Pressure vote. You're not the scummiest of the lot, but you're part of the lot nonetheless. PCM's points against you are valid as well.

nagerous wrote:I'd like to hear more from shieldgenerator, I think he deserves some pressure after his inane night time comments when replacing and subsequent inactivity and lack of contribution.


I agree. We're looking at a solid trio for questioning.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:45 pm

pancakemix wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^


well considering that i didnt hear him call me and rant that he was dead i didnt even remember lol my bad
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby edocsil on Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:37 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^


well considering that I didn't hear him call me and rant that he was dead I didn't even remember lol my bad


This friends in Mafia business is going to come back and bite you some time. You should not be talking about active games IRL.

X, PCM, I would rather lay into Clever then Jonty, but they both are doing the same business. Anyhow, we will likely have time for both. Vote Jonty.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:44 am

edocsil wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^


well considering that I didn't hear him call me and rant that he was dead I didn't even remember lol my bad


This friends in Mafia business is going to come back and bite you some time. You should not be talking about active games IRL.

X, PCM, I would rather lay into Clever then Jonty, but they both are doing the same business. Anyhow, we will likely have time for both. Vote Jonty.


edoc that was the jokes...its that we dont lol and i was pretty much saying that i dont care..i guess i didnt think the joke wording through...but anyway....

if you wanna pressure me go ahead i have nothing to hide...other than that i am officially moving ommorow expect activity maybe late ing the day.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:32 am

Vote Jonty, to add more pressure to the plate.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:22 am

(Orla, Skyrim Anti-Thief Doc)I am an adaption of CPR doc. If I visit a thief, I kill them. Anyone else, I doc protect. As of my ability to kill and unsure whether theives were all scum. I did nothing for N1 & N2. N3 I protected Xenhu.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:26 am

crazymilkshake5 wrote:Vote Jonty, to add more pressure to the plate.


This is just plain BW'ing. I suppose there is a chance your are a scum politician, but I have no evidence.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby pancakemix on Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:42 am

jonty125 wrote:(Orla, Skyrim Anti-Thief Doc)I am an adaption of CPR doc. If I visit a thief, I kill them. Anyone else, I doc protect. As of my ability to kill and unsure whether theives were all scum. I did nothing for N1 & N2. N3 I protected Xenhu.


Yeah, no. Orla has no related major quest. That role is stupid, and it makes the game extremely unbalanced if it's true.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:00 pm

Vote Count 1

clever: 1 (LSU)
jonty: 4 (pancake, edocsil, XenHu, crazy) (L-2)
Not Voting: 5 (nagerous, shield, clever, jonty, sound)

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby nagerous on Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:22 pm

pancakemix wrote:
jonty125 wrote:(Orla, Skyrim Anti-Thief Doc)I am an adaption of CPR doc. If I visit a thief, I kill them. Anyone else, I doc protect. As of my ability to kill and unsure whether theives were all scum. I did nothing for N1 & N2. N3 I protected Xenhu.


Yeah, no. Orla has no related major quest. That role is stupid, and it makes the game extremely unbalanced if it's true.

:roll: that reeks of a fake claim

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:33 pm

And only thief so far is town. Do not like.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby XenHu on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:40 pm

jonty125 wrote:(Orla, Skyrim Anti-Thief Doc)I am an adaption of CPR doc. If I visit a thief, I kill them. Anyone else, I doc protect. As of my ability to kill and unsure whether theives were all scum. I did nothing for N1 & N2. N3 I protected Xenhu.



You did nothing for N1 and 2, and then on 3 you just decided to shield me? Why didn't you just start hunting for thieves N1?

Wha-?

The role hardly makes any sense to me.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 4: The Interrogator (10/18)

Postby XenHu on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:43 pm

edocsil wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not really a review, more of a random collection of facts. I'm being pressured to get off as we speak...

Clever wanted to protect a claimed survivor. That ended up being true, but it certainly doesn't absolve him in any way.

The fact that it took jonty that long to put together that the Stormcloaks weren't a faction is disconcerting, to say the least.

Ghostly's posts don't say much. Best thing from it is a joke vote on clever. Ghostly was terribly inactive...

Pretty much everything jonty has posted is a skim, from my glance over.

Gonna Vote jonty for the time being.


well ill take the other rode vote ghostly your right by saying he has been really inactive and id like to see him come out to play.


You mean the dead guy? :-^


well considering that I didn't hear him call me and rant that he was dead I didn't even remember lol my bad


This friends in Mafia business is going to come back and bite you some time. You should not be talking about active games IRL.


Is that what he was going on about? I'm glad you could make sense of that.

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