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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:44 am

chapcrap wrote:Ok DJ, so you're saying that your result means nothing? I don't understand the technicality...

Also, I find it odd to try to kill the claimed guy who has seemingly helped get a scum member. Why did you choose to try to kill him, PCM?


Erm, I already said why. :?

I tried killing DJ last night in order to verify his claim. As you can see, no dice.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby soundman on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:44 pm

And by killing him we lose his pretty useful power... If he's lying about his role and he's actually mafia then I'd rather lynch him on a later date after getting the other mafia.

DJ, I don't understand what you said in your previous posts... Could you try to make it clearer?

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Vodean~ Sif Doublevoter mason has been killed!

The hammer flew true, but someone or something got in the way. The hammer hit with enough force to slay any god, but in this case all it did was clatter to the floor.

The first part sounds like we could have a busdriver. And the second part sounds like a doc save. If it was a roleblock then I'd think the hammer wouldn't have flown at all.

If it was a doc save, then could it be that the wolf is DJ and he was going to get hit by the hammer? Hence the "looked like the wolf would harm itself as it landed" part. He was going to die from Thor's hammer but something saved him. Not sure if that really fits.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby / on Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:21 pm

Maybe the hammer hit vodean's already dead body? It does say someone or something, perhaps dj was switched with vodean.
does that make any sense?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:41 pm

pcm wrote:There's squirrel, but it's an inherent gamble.


I just noticed that nobody died N2 when clever was replaced by Squirrel.

edoc wrote:no actions so the scene is short.


So either mafia fumbled the kill or clever didn't send one in. (I don't normally meta the mod by analyzing the scenes, but it popped up while I was reading).

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 pm

soundman wrote:And by killing him we lose his pretty useful power


No, he's vanilla now, per his claim. That's why I thought it was low-risk to off him.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby chapcrap on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:53 pm

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soundman wrote:And by killing him we lose his pretty useful power


No, he's vanilla now, per his claim. That's why I thought it was low-risk to off him.

I guess that's true. He would be a better option than Mr. S since we don't know who is lying.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby chapcrap on Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:55 pm

Well, 24 hours later, I'm going to go ahead and vote for DJ. Seems to me that one of them must be lying and DJ has a smaller downside if we lynch him.

unvote vote DJ
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:49 am

I'm gonna go back and look at all of dj's claims before I say anything. Expect a longer post later today.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby Djfireside on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:55 am

chapcrap wrote:Ok DJ, so you're saying that your result means nothing? I don't understand the technicality...

Also, I find it odd to try to kill the claimed guy who has seemingly helped get a scum member. Why did you choose to try to kill him, PCM?


I was told of the technicality because Vodean used the word seems. Since it goes off the entire post, I assume the post was taken as looking and what we were talking about and it seemed that we believed that one of the two of them was scum so the statement that Vodean made was truth. Its kind of a twist on things but I had two other that were correct so VT now or not why I am being targetted? It seems strange that chap who has come under fire a bunch is on of the first to fire across. While my last power use fumbled and at least I was alerted and told everyone not to follow it so there wasnt any further loss, I still came up with two good covers and got at least one. I may be expendable but I figured at this point I should be known as town so why would you fight again someone who is pretty sure to be town.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:22 pm

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chapcrap wrote:Ok DJ, so you're saying that your result means nothing? I don't understand the technicality...

Also, I find it odd to try to kill the claimed guy who has seemingly helped get a scum member. Why did you choose to try to kill him, PCM?


I was told of the technicality because Vodean used the word seems. Since it goes off the entire post, I assume the post was taken as looking and what we were talking about and it seemed that we believed that one of the two of them was scum so the statement that Vodean made was truth. Its kind of a twist on things but I had two other that were correct so VT now or not why I am being targetted? It seems strange that chap who has come under fire a bunch is on of the first to fire across. While my last power use fumbled and at least I was alerted and told everyone not to follow it so there wasnt any further loss, I still came up with two good covers and got at least one. I may be expendable but I figured at this point I should be known as town so why would you fight again someone who is pretty sure to be town.

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First of all, OMGUS much?

Second of all, the logic you attempt to use to lynch me can be used against PCM, our claimed Thor as well. Are you saying he's scummy too?

You're basically a VT now. You were told of a technicality of the post during the night? That's convenient now that I pressure you and someone else tried to kill you in the night as well. It's already been stated that you are targetted to verify whether or not you are truthful or Mr. S. is. I already said that. PCM said it before me. Maybe if you read the posts instead of getting that OMGUS rage in your eyes, it would be that hard to figure out. You're much less of a risk than Mr. S. Simple as that.

So, if you didn't want to get voted, maybe you should have come on here and explained your little technicality when I said this over 3 days ago now.
chapcrap wrote:Ok DJ, so you're saying that your result means nothing? I don't understand the technicality...

Your response doesn't make me want to unvote you.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:36 pm

At this point I'm decidedly against the dj lynch... I went over his posts and I see no reason to disbelieve his claim, and I think he's been spot on with Saf and Jonty. After work tonight I'll re-read, but for right now I'm actually entertaining Squirrel as the most suspicious. However, I don't have my notes in front of me atm.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:13 pm

Lets make sure to keep this moving.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby pancakemix on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:36 pm

f*ck it.

Vote Squirrel

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:08 pm

pancakemix wrote:f*ck it.

Vote Squirrel

Let the chips fall where they may.

I feel like it has to be him or DJ. I voted DJ because if we're wrong, he is less risky. Although I do think that Mr. Squirrel's claim is much less believable.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ D4! (7/12)

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:03 pm

chapcrap wrote:
pancakemix wrote:f*ck it.

Vote Squirrel

Let the chips fall where they may.

I feel like it has to be him or DJ. I voted DJ because if we're wrong, he is less risky. Although I do think that Mr. Squirrel's claim is much less believable.

Is there any way I could possibly make my claim seem believable? I already told you that I would've presented the claim a bit better, but clever did it and I can't do anything about it. I'm trying my best not to get killed and not have the town kill itself, but there's not much else I can do.

In regards to my extremely belated post on dj, I'm unsure of what to do. It all becomes very WIFOMy when I look back at the posts he used his powers on. He basically caught saf during his second use of his power, but he might have done that just to get the trust of the town. Its very hard to say.
dj wrote:We have two claims stating that Safari and Clever are town.

This is the statement that he supposedly got a lie on.
vodean wrote:ok so as it now stands it seems like everywhere and/or MS are scum.

And this one was the truth.

Now he says that the second quote is invalid because of the word "seems". Yet looking at the first quote, that statement wasn't exact either. If the mod was being super technical (as dj is implying by the second quote), then the first statement should have come up as true. Technically, there were two claims that those two were town. Unless the mod is wrong in either case, there's no reason why the two should not have come up as true.

All of this said, I don't want to push the lynch. Frankly, you guys have pushed me into a corner here. If I don't contribute and help you guys, I'll get lynched (and town will be screwed). At the same time, if I'm wrong with any of my cases I will be immediately targeted and killed (and town will again be screwed). So unless I'm absolutely positive on one of my cases I will not vote or push the lynch. I will present you guys the information I have, but my role forbids me from sticking my neck out whatsoever.

You guys might want to lynch me just because of that last paragraph. But before you do, just look at the situation I'm in. I inherited a terrible role from someone who put me in a difficult position. My role will almost guarantee a scum victory if it is lynched. This puts a ton of responsibility into my hands to stay alive, and the way I'm playing now is (in my opinion) the only way I can.
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