There is no other way.
edocsil wrote:Basically what it comes down to is Aage is manipulating people and you are all willingly following. Mark me. Check at the end of the game. As of right now HE IS NOT TOWN. I will bet anything on that. He also happens to to be the single best person alive besides saf imo. So when he chases down Saf, who by all odds is cult or scum (as we have agreed, they greatly outnumber town) Now Aage is going to play massive town cred the next day with this lynch and hang one more scum. I assume he knows who all the scum are, it isn't really hard to tell at this point. The fact that he hasn't spilled the entire scum faction is exact reason I believe he is cult. He want's to feed it out in dribbles, and keep the scum from making a desperate ploy with the town vs the cult, which will likely doom the scum anyhow, but will surely end the cult as well. It will be an easy cult win if he can keep the 2-4 townies dancing to his tune and hanign the last few scum as his faction's power grows. I am not cult and I cannot let that happen. However, as per saf's inv he is not the CL, and the CL is the only threat to the town and scum atm. 1 day, 2 if the stars have aligned and your RB's were insanely lucky and town will be defeated while you follow his lead.
Partly I am venting, because I have been in this scenario a lot, and it leaves me with a firm hate for cult games. Partly because I see the same thing time and time again the scum and the cult know each other by the end of the game, and all the cards are in the cult's favor. Town gets screwed in between, and the scum usually lose to the town following a culties lead. The scum can't claim to prove who the CL likely is, they'll get steamrolled by the cult wagon. Our best bet is to take a potshot and a certain cultie, (Red) who has a chance to be the CL. Pray the scum guess right, kill the CL. Roll the scum once alignment returns for the recruits. I am certain that after tonight the game will be decided in the cult's favor if their CL does not die. It may take a day or two for them to hunt down the few remaining scum, but it will be over. Or best bet is to make the scum's odds of success as good as possible. As I have said earlier, there are only a few options for who can be the CL, and if the scum can narrow a few people out, they may have a 50/50 shot, or even be certain of the identity of the CL.
Anyhow, there is the essay's I have survived this long to write, if my earlier numbers are not enough to persuade in conjugation with this post there is likely little I can do.
I have read your post, but I still think it's really easy. If we hang the CL today, scum gets a NK and town loses. If we hang scum today, there's 2 roleblockers and 2 night kills that can target the CL tonight, and we have narrowed the amount of people who could possibly be the CL to five. Those chances are an infinite times better than a certain loss for town if we hang the cult leader today.
I know you think the cult leader is the most dangerous threat to town. I agree, he would be, if we didn't have so many ways to cripple or even eliminate him during the night. At this moment town has only three "weapons" that I know of: me, Hippo and lynching. I don't want to employ the most important of these three to be used to hunt the CL. Especially since we don't know if we can even use the other two weapons at all during the following nights. Lynch is our most reliable tool to attain victory, and I will not waste it on some idiot who claimed PGO. If for some reason a member of the mafia dies tonight as well as during the day, I will follow you heartily on a Redhedge lynch, but no sooner.
Besides, for all we know Vodean could have been the CL and we're arguing over thin air now. That is also a scenario we cannot ignore, because it still means we're at lylo
. Town cannot afford to make any more mistakes or mislynches from now on. Redhedge is an uncertain gamble. Saf is 100% scum. I'm not impressed by his investigative abilities because we will be able to lynch the CL tomorrow if need be; I'm very confident we'll be able to identify who's the cult leader tomorrow if every party uses their night actions wisely. Scum has nothing to gain from NK'ing me or Hippo because that would hand the win over to the CL. I doubt you want that.
As for me being town, luckily my role lets me mason up with someone for the night so you'll have a second opinion tomorrow.