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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby edocsil on Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:21 pm

chapcrap wrote:
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Iron Butterfly wrote:Claim. We have been waiting almost a week. If you have been reading you know where we are in game. We are also fully aware of what Chap has said so there is no more need to rehash old crap. You have done no us no favors with your last post.


"We are also fully aware of what Chap has said so there is no more need to rehash old crap."

It should read Safari instead of Chap.

Claim already Chap.

I'm not claiming because you want to whine about it. I already know that YOU feel I should claim. You said it already. I'm not rehashing old crap either. The VTs were not dead when I last posted and I was stating where I stood.


We will hang you if you don't claim all actions you have made, your role, your name, and all confirmed actions against you.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:47 pm

Well that is not going to solve anything either Edocsil.

Chap I do not understand why you are being so difficult. we have been waiting specifically for you to get back. Safari has not been cleared in my book BUT...

I am Jailkeeper- I blocked you night one and edocsil the last two nights. That tells me you are not the killer..at least in my book.

Night two one of the SKs did not kill as they were prevented from doing so. I jailed edocsil so unless anything else developes I am assuming I saved him.

safari has claimed to be a blocker...he claimed he blocked you last night. If you have been following the game you will understand your input is very important so I do not understand why you are being obstinate.

If safari is in fact telling the truth then Epi and Jak appear to be the killers.

Can you or can you not confirm that Safari blocked you?
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby chapcrap on Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:10 pm

I'm just a VT... Let me go look at my PM real quick, because I don't remember the name. My name is Gabriel Bosque. So, I can't confirm anything that safari said.

I'm not being obstinate about anything. I wanted more people to respond to me than crappy response that you gave. You didn't care anything about what I said, you only wanted a claim and ignored my post completely. So, yeah, I didn't care about what you had to say, just like you didn't care about what I had to say.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:22 pm

chapcrap wrote:I'm just a VT... Let me go look at my PM real quick, because I don't remember the name. My name is Gabriel Bosque. So, I can't confirm anything that safari said.

I'm not being obstinate about anything. I wanted more people to respond to me than crappy response that you gave. You didn't care anything about what I said, you only wanted a claim and ignored my post completely. So, yeah, I didn't care about what you had to say, just like you didn't care about what I had to say.


You kept us waiting for a week so forgive me if I don't have a pity party.I did not ignore your post I just got tired of the same old argument. You don't need to keep repeating it.

So your a VT and cant offer us anything one way or the other on Saf. Now was that so hard? Did we really need the drama? LOL.

You still have not offered up what you think we should do or am I out of line to ask for your input?
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Epitaph1 on Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:10 am

Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby edocsil on Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:28 am

Epitaph1 wrote:Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?


How the f*ck would he know he was VT? There are SK left, not scum. There is no collaboration between scum. Dex wants to kill Doakes for knowing his identity in the show, and you have really had a hard on for hanging saf since he claimed.

Gah, now I am defending saf in two threads.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:37 pm

Epitaph1 wrote:Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?


Being a role blocker does not give any insight into the role one is blocking. Granted it does not help him prove he is who he says he is.

You on the other hand have claimed a role that has absolute zero use given the way the mod has conducted the game. You expect us to believe he would include a forensics investigator/cop role when he has been telling us in the night scenes how the killers kill their victims? I think you are the one who has the biggest chance of being a liar and SK.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Epitaph1 on Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:58 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Epitaph1 wrote:Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?


Being a role blocker does not give any insight into the role one is blocking. Granted it does not help him prove he is who he says he is.

You on the other hand have claimed a role that has absolute zero use given the way the mod has conducted the game. You expect us to believe he would include a forensics investigator/cop role when he has been telling us in the night scenes how the killers kill their victims? I think you are the one who has the biggest chance of being a liar and SK.


I'm familiar with the mechanics of a roleblocker. I think that safari has been lying all along.

Like I've said before, I'm working with the cards that I was dealt. Strike had the same role in the last game, so I'm not surprised we have it in this game as well. Yeah, it seems like the scenes make my role irrelevant, but perhaps this would be an entirely different ballgame with the third SK in play. We don't know if any of the SKs have any abilities beyond just killing, so I'm still holding out hope that my role will have some utility after all.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:25 pm

Epitaph1 wrote:
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Epitaph1 wrote:Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?


Being a role blocker does not give any insight into the role one is blocking. Granted it does not help him prove he is who he says he is.

You on the other hand have claimed a role that has absolute zero use given the way the mod has conducted the game. You expect us to believe he would include a forensics investigator/cop role when he has been telling us in the night scenes how the killers kill their victims? I think you are the one who has the biggest chance of being a liar and SK.


I'm familiar with the mechanics of a roleblocker. I think that safari has been lying all along.

Like I've said before, I'm working with the cards that I was dealt. Strike had the same role in the last game, so I'm not surprised we have it in this game as well. Yeah, it seems like the scenes make my role irrelevant, but perhaps this would be an entirely different ballgame with the third SK in play. We don't know if any of the SKs have any abilities beyond just killing, so I'm still holding out hope that my role will have some utility after all.


You cant make a valid argument using "what might have been". All we have is the reality of what is and what has transpired.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:17 pm

Epitaph1 wrote:
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Epitaph1 wrote:Hilarious. Safari 'roleblocked' a VT. Suffice it to say, this just another example of his crumbling facade of a claim.

I won't belabor the point, as I've already said plenty about safari's guilt, but I guess we need to see where the rest of the non-voters stand. We're going to be in dire straights if we don't get this right and there are 2 SKs running around. If we're lucky, edoc and IB will be successful in their blocks, but that is being very optimistic.

Where is jak?


Being a role blocker does not give any insight into the role one is blocking. Granted it does not help him prove he is who he says he is.

You on the other hand have claimed a role that has absolute zero use given the way the mod has conducted the game. You expect us to believe he would include a forensics investigator/cop role when he has been telling us in the night scenes how the killers kill their victims? I think you are the one who has the biggest chance of being a liar and SK.


I'm familiar with the mechanics of a roleblocker. I think that safari has been lying all along.

Like I've said before, I'm working with the cards that I was dealt. Strike had the same role in the last game, so I'm not surprised we have it in this game as well. Yeah, it seems like the scenes make my role irrelevant, but perhaps this would be an entirely different ballgame with the third SK in play. We don't know if any of the SKs have any abilities beyond just killing, so I'm still holding out hope that my role will have some utility after all.

Judging by jonty's death, any SKer ability outside of killing mostly has to do with keeping them alive (one-shot bulletproof). Regardless of who we hang today, I'm very sure that chap is clear. Pretty sure IB and edoc are clear and I have no idea about jak. Again, we don't necessarily have to lynch today, we have few enough people that I don't mind announcing roleblock targets. I could easily just roleblock Epi and we can see if there are fewer kills in the night. If there are, we lynch epitaph tomorrow. If there aren't, you guys can lynch me tomorrow.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:14 pm

I want to know why Jak is not participating. Hes posted and blathered away in several games up until today.

I am 100% positive Epi one of the killers. If we are forced into a no lynch I would insist on blocking him.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby strike wolf on Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:22 pm

Vote Count

Edocsil
Jak111
Ironbutterfly
Safariguy (1)-Epitaph
Epitaph (2)-Safariguy5, Iron Butterfly
chapcrap

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Replacing Jak111. got a response from Chap.

remaking it. After reviewing the last vote count I noticed that the part now at the bottom had ended up at the top. sorry if it was missed because of that. Searching for reserves. If I can't find any in the next 48-72 (depending on my own schedule), I will be forced to mod-kill.

With my own inconsistent schedule and a possible upcoming replacement there is no current deadline. I will reconsider the deadline when and if Jak is replaced. As of right now I would like to see better activity.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby spiesr on Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:49 pm

Confirm Replacement (Of Jak?)
I haven't been keeping tabs on this thread so I am going to have to read it all before I can do much. Should be able to take care of that tonight still.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby strike wolf on Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:03 pm

Spiesr replaces Jak.

No deadline set. Will reconsider over the next couple of days.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 10/13. Day 2: Firelit Dawn

Postby spiesr on Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:27 am

Okay, I just read everything. I have to see reading this game was pretty hilarious, so congrats Stike.
Iron Butterfly wrote:I want to know why Jak is not participating. Hes posted and blathered away in several games up until today.
If you read the signups for /'s game he mentions something about dropping out of this game and Arkham in order to join that one. (Despite him never making a post to actually say that in either game.) A question for you Iron, you did you jail night 1?
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I just don't buy saf's line of reasoning. Yeah, there could potientially be 3 kills for one night only, but that's only once. However, that's not a big deal because of them killing each other too. I mean, at this point we could be looking at just one kill per night if one of those last night was the one shot being used. To me, why lynch someone that's already claimed anyway? Awful strategy from town. We lynch BG and all the info we get was whether or not he was lying. We don't get any more information without pressuring someone else. To me, that person needs to be saf.
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Protected Saf every night.
How the hell did you know that you were roleblocked if you were a doctor?
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It could be the second killer is an arsonist and was just priming someone on Night 2. Last Dexter game, the poisoner SKer won in the end, so we may have delayed NK's.

Regardless, I feel like it's gotten to the point this game where chap won't believe anything I say, so I'm not surprised that he'd vote me. If nothing, I've been consistent in my behavior. Once I felt BG was lying, I focused my actions on him. I'm still of the opinion that BG's claim doesn't fit, but this mystery roleblock is more concrete evidence of someone lying.
Did you forget about the scenes entirely? There has been a death by fire every night. The scene made it plenty clear that it was Dexter's action which did not succeed night 2.

In case it wasn't already obvious I am Dexter.
I am a third party survivor. I have to ability to either kill or frame someone each night. My predecessors made the following actions. N1: Kill Iron Butterfly N2: Kill Edocsil. N3: Kill BGthebrain
As you can see none of these was entirely successful. Night 1 Iron was swapped with shaggy, night 2 edocsil was under the jailkeeper's protection, and it seems LSU swapped himself with BG night 3.

So anyhow we have 3 candidates for the arson based killer.
Epitaph, Safariguy, & Chapcrap.
I suppose we need to set up some sort of system where we lynch 1, I kill the second and the third is jailed. In the event that our lynch is on the wrong target I will require edocsil to use his doc protect on me in case this killer also has some level of bulletproof ability. I don't really know at this point who we should pick for which position. So, edoc'sil, Iron Butterfly, I guess we will have to sort that one out.

Also, as a FYI I can confirm that non-town players had mod provided fake-claims available to them. I was offered one if I felt the need. Fortunately the town seems to be on the right track that Dexter isn't an actual threat to their win condition so I don't need it.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:58 am

Night One I jailed Chap, which I stated earlier but its understandable how you could have missed it. Chap is clear in my book as is edocsil.

I had you pegged as one of the SKs along with Epi. Safari I have had my doubts but with you out as a survivor having to make a choice between Saf and Epi I would choose Epi to lynch.

I believe we should lynch Epi. As I have stated several times his claimed role of forensic investigator does not make sense as the night scenes have clearly shown how and what the killers use.

By lynching him it would be game over and a win for Town and you, If he flips Town, which I doubt I would jail him. Even if he kills someone we have enough votes to lynch him.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:03 am

I would jail safari if epi flipped Town is what I tried to say above.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby chapcrap on Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:40 am

Well, if we lynch either saf or Epi, we can have Dexter kill the other then during the night. Is that the route we should take?

While I do think the way safari has played has been scummier than Epi, I don't have any of my own information to go off of, so I am willing to lynch Epi and let safariguy be the one that is killed by spiesr.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Epitaph1 on Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:55 am

3rd party survivor that kills each night? I think there's a name for that: serial killer. spiesr just claimed SK and we're deliberating between saf and me? Go figure.

That leaves saf to be the arsonist. I still think that saf has been the scummiest and I'm convinced he's Lila, Dexter's girlfriend. My vote stands, although I'm open to lynching spiesr too.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby edocsil on Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:29 am

Vote Epi

Also, I knew I was RBe'd because Strike always tells you, regardless of if your night action requires a result. He has said it before, but I would really rather not go look it up, I have an interview shortly.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby chapcrap on Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:12 pm

edocsil wrote:Vote Epi

Also, I knew I was RBe'd because Strike always tells you, regardless of if your night action requires a result. He has said it before, but I would really rather not go look it up, I have an interview shortly.

I was never told that I was role blocked in this game, but I have no action to block either.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby edocsil on Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:28 pm

chapcrap wrote:
edocsil wrote:Vote Epi

Also, I knew I was RBe'd because Strike always tells you, regardless of if your night action requires a result. He has said it before, but I would really rather not go look it up, I have an interview shortly.

I was never told that I was role blocked in this game, but I have no action to block either.


I left ambiguity, pardon. If you have a active night action and you use it, and it is blocked, you are told.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby spiesr on Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:27 pm

chapcrap wrote:Well, if we lynch either saf or Epi, we can have Dexter kill the other then during the night. Is that the route we should take?

While I do think the way safari has played has been scummier than Epi, I don't have any of my own information to go off of, so I am willing to lynch Epi and let safariguy be the one that is killed by spiesr.
Well, with out list of suspects sitting at two people we have a choice of what to do if the lynch today is on the wrong one. We can either have me kill the other, or have Iron Butterfly block him. Since Iron Butterfly is a Jailer we unfortunately can't do both. Remember that Jonty had a 1 shot bulletproof ability, so it stands to reason that this other killer may also have something, be it bulletproof, unblockable, investigation immunity, or whatever. So I guess our choice would be defined by whatever we think might actually work on this target.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:19 pm

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chapcrap wrote:Well, if we lynch either saf or Epi, we can have Dexter kill the other then during the night. Is that the route we should take?

While I do think the way safari has played has been scummier than Epi, I don't have any of my own information to go off of, so I am willing to lynch Epi and let safariguy be the one that is killed by spiesr.
Well, with out list of suspects sitting at two people we have a choice of what to do if the lynch today is on the wrong one. We can either have me kill the other, or have Iron Butterfly block him. Since Iron Butterfly is a Jailer we unfortunately can't do both. Remember that Jonty had a 1 shot bulletproof ability, so it stands to reason that this other killer may also have something, be it bulletproof, unblockable, investigation immunity, or whatever. So I guess our choice would be defined by whatever we think might actually work on this target.


If the lynch is the wrong one that would mean safari would be the SK. If you target each other Town wins and you lose.

I would block/jail Safari. If no kills we we know safari is the killer. IOf someone dies...lol we are in trouble.
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Re: Dexter Mafia S2. 6/13 Day 4: Chain of Command

Postby chapcrap on Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:18 pm

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chapcrap wrote:Well, if we lynch either saf or Epi, we can have Dexter kill the other then during the night. Is that the route we should take?

While I do think the way safari has played has been scummier than Epi, I don't have any of my own information to go off of, so I am willing to lynch Epi and let safariguy be the one that is killed by spiesr.
Well, with out list of suspects sitting at two people we have a choice of what to do if the lynch today is on the wrong one. We can either have me kill the other, or have Iron Butterfly block him. Since Iron Butterfly is a Jailer we unfortunately can't do both. Remember that Jonty had a 1 shot bulletproof ability, so it stands to reason that this other killer may also have something, be it bulletproof, unblockable, investigation immunity, or whatever. So I guess our choice would be defined by whatever we think might actually work on this target.


If the lynch is the wrong one that would mean safari would be the SK. If you target each other Town wins and you lose.

I would block/jail Safari. If no kills we we know safari is the killer. IOf someone dies...lol we are in trouble.

I disagree with that plan. If I was the killer, I would not kill on purpose so that saf was killed and then I'd have another night alive to perform my kill. If we are certain that we want to move forward with these two, I think that lynching one and offing the other in the night is the best plan. Because, then if we are wrong, we can pursue it during the day tomorrow instead of being forced to wait through another night.
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