Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

[aage]

@aage: what? Where do we have proof that he was roleblocked?

Exactly. But if he wasn't roleblocked and he was mafia, it would be pretty strange to claim to have been roleblocked, as I explained in my previous post. Maybe I should have stressed that with "claimed to have been roleblocked" I meant "lie about being roleblocked", I thought that was obvious.
All we know is that his vote is gone, so obviously he wasn't lying about that. That lends some credibility to his roleblock-claim by my book.

@SW, see my reply to DY. I think you misinterpreted what I said.

ebwop

So following that reasoning, claiming to have been blocked if he were a mafia watcher whilst in fact he wasn't blocked would make no sense to do... hence we can conclude that either he is town and lying (which is okay, really, since he's town and I won't be voting him) or he is any alignment and was genuinely roleblocked, and therefore I see no reason to suspect him. Watcher is a pretty useful role to keep alive, and I'm not at all convinced that he must be scum.

[rishaed]

Edoc can we get prod's on Nag and Safari?
And does anyone have some sort of viable information to work off of from last night?
From what I see
DroZ and Chap were blocked (no info)
JG was killed so another known role is gone preventing information from coming out
Gregwolf is a Universalmason so I think most of the information will be going in between him and his partner.
Other than that all other roles are unknown atm, and if we work off of Chap's initial list we have 3 anti townies there. Who do you think is best to start with, considering right now it is our best lead?

[edocsil]

Edoc can we get prod's on Nag and Safari?
And does anyone have some sort of viable information to work off of from last night?
From what I see
DroZ and Chap were blocked (no info)
JG was killed so another known role is gone preventing information from coming out
Gregwolf is a Universalmason so I think most of the information will be going in between him and his partner.
Other than that all other roles are unknown atm, and if we work off of Chap's initial list we have 3 anti townies there. Who do you think is best to start with, considering right now it is our best lead?

Nag isn't playing anymore, but I'll nudge saf.

[jonty125]

So day 4 was almost as bad as day 3. Really, why wouldn't droz say who he watched? He obviously watched chap. If he didn't, kill him. It's not a tough concept.

I have a theory for this. It is something that popped into my mind immediately, once Droz stated that he didn't want to reveal what he saw.

He most likely did watch Chapcrap and saw someone visit Chap. However, he has no idea whether the visit was positive or negative. All he knows is that Chap didn't die from it. Droz likely wanted to wait and see whether something negative happened to chap (role-blocked, bus-driven, silenced, etc). Chap had been inactive the previous night & day, so there was no way to find out for sure. For instance, he may have been blocked. But since he didn't use his role, a block was fruitless anyway. Also, there would be no way to know, since he didn't try to use his role.

In short, if Droz doesn't know what the person did, he may not want to say anything just yet. It could just lead to unnecessarily attracting attention to a player before the proper time.

Just a theory, and I could be wrong, but that is my hunch so far.

That makes sense.

[NoSurvivors]

Edoc can we get prod's on Nag and Safari?
And does anyone have some sort of viable information to work off of from last night?
From what I see
DroZ and Chap were blocked (no info)
JG was killed so another known role is gone preventing information from coming out
Gregwolf is a Universalmason so I think most of the information will be going in between him and his partner.
Other than that all other roles are unknown atm, and if we work off of Chap's initial list we have 3 anti townies there. Who do you think is best to start with, considering right now it is our best lead?

I suppose we must do some good old fashioned scum hunting! (Which I'm extraordinary at...... )

[DoomYoshi]

No one visited my target, but I would not feel comfortable naming who I watched.

Vio and chap. It doesn't make sense at all. Stop trying to obfuscate the issues here.

aage, I'm not sure what you mean. I think you are trying doubletalk to hide the fact that there is no proof that droz was actually roleblocked. Do you think that mafia can roleblock twice in one night?

The only thing that paints droz as even remotely town is that you (scummy num. 2) are defending him.

By the way, if I die tonight, I just want to say that I figured the mafia most likely has a flavor cop. Not going to elaborate on this, just thought it should be out there.

[DoomYoshi]

No one visited my target, but I would not feel comfortable naming who I watched.

Vio and jonty. It doesn't make sense at all. Stop trying to obfuscate the issues here.

aage, I'm not sure what you mean. I think you are trying doubletalk to hide the fact that there is no proof that droz was actually roleblocked. Do you think that mafia can roleblock twice in one night?

The only thing that paints droz as even remotely town is that you (scummy num. 2) are defending him.

By the way, if I die tonight, I just want to say that I figured the mafia most likely has a flavor cop. Not going to elaborate on this, just thought it should be out there.

EBWOP: Either jonty or chap needs to change their avatar. I am sick of confusing them.

[safariguy5]

Apologies for the absence, it's Finals and Paper season right now.

Ok, I've thought about this long and hard, and given the current circumstances, I think the information I currently have is more useful out in the open than if I continued keeping it to myself.

I am Michael the Archangel, some of the Roman Catholics may call him Saint Michael the Archangel. Anyways, I'm a super JOAT, where I have regular kill, save, roleblock and investigate abilities, but I can use any as many times as I want. I'm still limited to 1 action a night.

I went back and reread my WC, and without quoting it too heavily, it seems to say that humans can be recruited by the demons or somebody, but I just need all demons to be dead. These humans don't need to be destroyed.

Now, I have done investigations every night.

Night 1: Sully- Innocent
Night 2: Com9- Innocent
Night 3: VioIet- Innocent
Night 4: Soundman- Guilty

So therefore, I will vote soundman

[DoomYoshi]

Ok. So since we also have a cop, it makes it even less likely for there to be a watcher.

However,

unvote vote soundman

[VioIet]

No one visited my target, but I would not feel comfortable naming who I watched.

Vio and chap. It doesn't make sense at all. Stop trying to obfuscate the issues here.

I actually think I'm pretty right on about my last post. But it's okay; I will drop the issue for the rest of Day Five.

As per Safari's result:

Vote Soundman

[DoomYoshi]

No one visited my target, but I would not feel comfortable naming who I watched.

Vio and chap. It doesn't make sense at all. Stop trying to obfuscate the issues here.

I actually think I'm pretty right on about my last post. But it's okay; I will drop the issue for the rest of Day Five.

As per Safari's result:

Vote Soundman

The only way you could be right is if Droz is lying. Is Droz lying?

[NoSurvivors]

No one visited my target, but I would not feel comfortable naming who I watched.

Vio and chap. It doesn't make sense at all. Stop trying to obfuscate the issues here.

I actually think I'm pretty right on about my last post. But it's okay; I will drop the issue for the rest of Day Five.

As per Safari's result:

Vote Soundman

The only way you could be right is if Droz is lying. Is Droz lying?

DroZ is lieing about something.. That's dawned clear to me. But I believe Vio is town, and with that many innocents's it does not look good for soundy. Therefore VOTE SOUNDY. DroZ I suggest coming clean with whatever you're lieing about today. Cos I seriously doubt you were role blocked as well as chap, and all evidence screws you royally. I wanna believe you but all this dirt.. It's starting to weigh out and not everything is adding up right.

[gregwolf121]

well, its hard to argue with a guilty vote soundman

[pancakemix]

Cop is cop.

Vote Sound

[Iliad]

A cop result is as straightforward as they come/

will need a claim soon vote soundman