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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby F1fth on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:44 pm

It's curious that some are choosing to vote a person they believe is a recruited saint when there is still the matter of the recruiter to deal with.

Also, we have a claimed busdriver so we if you trust that then we should make sure he didn't have anything to do with safari's result before jumping the gun.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby strike wolf on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:52 pm

My action did not affect Safari's result. I'm in the middle of mid-terms right now. Should check thread every day or 2 but actually posting will be less frequent.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby VioIet on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:26 am

F1fth wrote:It's curious that some are choosing to vote a person they believe is a recruited saint when there is still the matter of the recruiter to deal with.


Well as we don't know who this recruiter is yet, nor are we 100% sure that we even have one, I think the smart thing to do is go after someone who was on the original wagon, and came up guilty via investigation.

Ignoring a guilty result in search of a recruiter seems foolish to me. For all we know, Doom may very well be the recruiter.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:14 pm

You're ignoring the fact Saf also found Yoshi innocent earlier in the game.

Edoc, can you prod Droz?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:37 pm

By the way, if Chap's sensor power is fooled by godfathers like a cop power is, then Aage isn't even one of the
"4 scum on the wagon". meaning there could be as much as 2 more demons there (I find that unlikely, however, but worth mentioning nonetheless).
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby pancakemix on Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:02 pm

Rodion wrote:By the way, if Chap's sensor power is fooled by godfathers like a cop power is, then Aage isn't even one of the
"4 scum on the wagon". meaning there could be as much as 2 more demons there (I find that unlikely, however, but worth mentioning nonetheless).


I feel like there was some confirmation that he was earlier, but I'm not sure.

Vote Strike Wolf because I still think that whole busdriver thing is fishy.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby F1fth on Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:37 pm

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F1fth wrote:It's curious that some are choosing to vote a person they believe is a recruited saint when there is still the matter of the recruiter to deal with.


Well as we don't know who this recruiter is yet, nor are we 100% sure that we even have one, I think the smart thing to do is go after someone who was on the original wagon, and came up guilty via investigation.

Ignoring a guilty result in search of a recruiter seems foolish to me. For all we know, Doom may very well be the recruiter.

Jonty made a claim as a town (un?)recruiter role and there is every indication that he was not lying about it. That means we are 100% sure there is a recruiter in this game. As Rodion ,

Rodion wrote:Saf also found Yoshi innocent earlier in the game.

DoomYoshi is not it.

Also, DoomYoshi replaced for Victor. (gregwolf (7) ~ Saf, jonty, soundman, violet, aage, JG, Nag) so he wasn't on the original wagon. He's scum as hell and he'll need to go soon but we have to keep our priorities straight here.

Vote Strike Wolf for same reason as yesterday.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:32 pm

I'm just a bit concerned about how subverted saints will count for LYLO scenarios. It's possible they're getting numerous enough that they pose a threat. If we can guarantee a scum lynch, I'll gladly vig doom this coming night. Certainly if Droz has any good information, that may help quite a bit.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby edocsil on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:35 pm

Rodion wrote:You're ignoring the fact Saf also found Yoshi innocent earlier in the game.

Edoc, can you prod Droz?


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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:52 pm

Vote Droz.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby gregwolf121 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:46 pm

so were still waiting on droz to make an appearance, but we also need to decide were to go today, personally i think it would be better to focus on the list because i feel that we have a better chance at lynching a demon that way.
on the other hand we now know that doom is most likely a corrupted saint. and safari has a good point with the number of saints having been turned, but since safari says he can vig doom tonight i think we should have him do that and lynch droz or strike today.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:22 pm

To be quite honest I don't know why Saf wasted an investigation on Yoshi after he fakeclaimed angel. He should have vigged him already (or investigated someone else).
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:03 am

I don't really know what to do here. Do I just modkill everyone who decides to stop playing? I've killed more players than the Mafia has at this point, and replaced 4 players. I don't even think replacing is an option, not with 90 pages to read.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:33 am

I would post, but I have quite literally, nothing to say.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby strike wolf on Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:32 am

I'm around...kind of. I just haven't had time to make a thorough post. My big test is tomorrow after that I should have time again.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby F1fth on Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:03 pm

I'm going to Unvote Vote DRoZ and I'll explain why:

1. Despite my reservations about strike, he has been quite active and forthcoming with information.

2. Strike has made some pretty bold claims about his actions and none have been disproven.

3. DRoZ has been quiet and very reticent.

Based on these, I think DRoZ is a better choice of lynch for today. As for the inactives, I can't say what the best course of action would be except that I would really like to see this game to the end.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:19 pm

edocsil wrote:I don't really know what to do here. Do I just modkill everyone who decides to stop playing? I've killed more players than the Mafia has at this point, and replaced 4 players. I don't even think replacing is an option, not with 90 pages to read.


Maybe ask an eligible dead player to replace (assuming there is one)? This way they don't have to read 90 pages, only those that happened after their death (or maybe they even kept up with the thread after dying!).

Or just modkill Droz so the game can go on?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:59 pm

Rodion wrote:
edocsil wrote:I don't really know what to do here. Do I just modkill everyone who decides to stop playing? I've killed more players than the Mafia has at this point, and replaced 4 players. I don't even think replacing is an option, not with 90 pages to read.


Maybe ask an eligible dead player to replace (assuming there is one)? This way they don't have to read 90 pages, only those that happened after their death (or maybe they even kept up with the thread after dying!).

Or just modkill Droz so the game can go on?


Basically everyone dead so far either has game altering info from their last role / were scum / were modkilled anyhow. I will modkill both Droz and Iliad if they have not posted by tomorrow. ( 24hrs from now to be specific)
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby edocsil on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:16 pm

Jak replaces Iliad. I'm also posting in the replacements to see if I can find one for droz.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby jak111 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:40 pm

Confirmed replacement as Iliad's replacement.

Guess who's back! and I've been reading this from time to time to just see how it plays out, seeing as people are dropping/inactive time to step up to the plate once more.

Below was my past list of people.

Saf
jonty
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violet
aage
JG ~ Scum or 3rd party
Nag
DRoZ ~ Pretty much confirmed Watcher, watched Aage, targeted by Sam and is now confirmed that Sam visited Aage.
jak ~ Confirmed Vote Stealer (Alignment is questioned by some of you, but as far as the role goes, it is 100% confirmed from D2)

Strike
Vodean ~ 3rd party or scum claiming 3rd party



Updated list below.
Saf ~ Confirmed Cop
violet ~ I still believe to be human.
Nag ~ ??? Where did he go/who is playing as him?
DRoZ ~ Confirmed Watcher ~ Sam who was town doctor admitted to visiting Aage, confirming DRoZ as legit watcher.
Strike ~ I stand by him being a good guy considering him and Aage fought which I pointed out while I was alive, that one would be mafia and the other would be human. With Aage dead he is pretty much confirmed.

Only two of the 4 original were found on that list, leaving two baddies up, yes? With 5 left that leaves us a 40% chance of hitting a baddie.

I don't want to think Violet is mafia due to how strongly I felt about it before but with 2 mafia left and 3 pretty much 100% confirmed townies I am questioning whether I was correct on my gut, and by default whomever replaced Nag is my other suspicion.

So before I vote, I ask, are there anything of recent events that could have turned these statements around that I missed on my readings?

Also, not to gloat or anything but in my past life I was right about Aage AND Vodean ;) JG was a mess-up that was apparently fixed the following day.

Now this whole subverted saint thing, I am aware that Doom seems to have admitted himself to being evil so if we must he may be a free lynch if we cannot decide. It is Day 8, so if the mafia could recruit nightly this would already be over.

Finally, with me back in the game, hopefully I can spur some of you dogs into activity once again, it got long and dreadful wanting to read new scenes and hardly anyone posting much lately to read!!!
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:20 pm

Nag is Lovo, modkilled saint town tracker.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby jak111 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:15 pm

Well that leaves Violet, Saf, DRoZ and Strike, unless Victor (Who is now Doom and wasn't on my original list for some reason) was already evil.

Modkills are wrecking the game for us though >.< Hmm, going under Saf as confirmed town (or at least was when the 4 untown was found D2) Violet, DRoZ, and Strike, 2/3 are mafia and demons at that!

For each of them I could think of a reason why they would be town... but the numbers are overwhelming and this is assuming Aage was part of the 4 (since he was godfather) So realistically, all 3 of them could be mafia.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby Rodion on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:35 pm

Actually, Vodean and Soundman were demons on the list.

There's 1 mafia left on the list if you consider Aage was the 3rd and 2 if you do not.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby F1fth on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:45 pm

Welcome back, Jak. Glad to see someone trying to spark some activity in this game.

jak111 wrote:Only two of the 4 original were found on that list, leaving two baddies up, yes?

That depends on whether Chap's investigation was affect by Aage and his godfather role. The initial report came up with 4 and if Aage's role came into play there would be 5.

So realistically, all 3 of them could be mafia.

I don't think so. With Soundman, Aage, and Vodean as scum, that means there are 1 or 2 scum left on the list.

I agree that the case for Saf's claim is strong enough that we can remove him from suspicion. If we assume Saf is town, then we have to assume Vio is at least human (could be subverted though) since Saf had an innocent investigation on her at one point. I'm sure you agree that finding the recruiter is imperative at this point, and so Violet is not it. Neither is DoomYoshi for the same reason.

As for suspects on the list, that leaves us with Strike and DRoZ .
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D8 13/25

Postby F1fth on Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:46 pm

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