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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 9/25

Postby Rodion on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:41 am

D10 could also start with all 6 players, should mafia fail their NK.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 9/25

Postby Rodion on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:52 am

Alternatively, we could massclaim right away and then decide on who does what.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 9/25

Postby / on Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:04 pm

I'm fine with that, with or without claim.
Vote Strike
First however, I think it's very important we get Strike's actions for a the last couple days on record so that there are no mixups further down the line.
Alternatively, if we wish to make a massclaim, perhaps we should all claim our actions first, then make strike claim his actions, and compare for lies once his alignment is sealed up for certain. (Assuming killing him or jak doesn't win the game first.)
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 9/25

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:00 pm

Yeah, I think eliminating the possible X factors might be the best thing to do. That means that I can guarantee the right targets every time.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 9/25

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:00 pm

vote strike
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby jak111 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:18 pm

"get rid of the double voter" Interesting choice of words Rodion. Right now there are probably 4 demons/subverted saints and 5 town. With your train of thought if this is the scenario then here's what is going down.

Play 1:
Lynch townie, demons win unless Saf can kill a mafia and I can effectively use my double vote tomorrow.

Play 2:
Lynch demon, vig townie, mafia kill townie, demons win in a 3v3.

You are relying on there being less than 4 mafia to even go into tomorrow. I believe you know the numbers and this is your plan. You are jumping the wide gap of us being at LYLO and pretty sneakily at that.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:40 pm

I'd like to hear from the player who gifted Chap an investigation and allegedly gifted one to Yoshi as well. I think it could be a nice start if we wish to talk/claim some more before proceeding. Could we get him/her to speak up? (cop-gifter: if you're claiming, I suggest powers and actions only, not name/race).

Edoc, can we get a massprod for good measure?

@Jak: only 8 players remain and I strongly doubt mafia is as big as you're suggesting.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:48 pm

Everyone has posted within the last 3-4 days.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:23 pm

jak111 wrote:"get rid of the double voter" Interesting choice of words Rodion. Right now there are probably 4 demons/subverted saints and 5 town. With your train of thought if this is the scenario then here's what is going down.

Play 1:
Lynch townie, demons win unless Saf can kill a mafia and I can effectively use my double vote tomorrow.

Play 2:
Lynch demon, vig townie, mafia kill townie, demons win in a 3v3.

You are relying on there being less than 4 mafia to even go into tomorrow. I believe you know the numbers and this is your plan. You are jumping the wide gap of us being at LYLO and pretty sneakily at that.

As stated before, my WC does not say I have to kill all the subverted saints. Your calculations assume that they count as regular mafia which I don't necessarily think is true.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby VioIet on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:11 am

Well I guess I'm certainly out of the loop and minority here, but I want to vote pancake. He is been on my subconscious scumdar for the last two days or so. I just remember that after doom, I wanted to go for him next.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby F1fth on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:22 pm

I would like to see claims (name and role) in this order:
pancakemix
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Rodion
strike wolf


I would like to reiterate that these people proven to be non-demons (may still be subverted):
jakv2
F1fth
VioIet
safari


Safari has suggested that the angels win condition is when all the demons are defeated, so I would assume the game ends as well. That means we need to find the last demon(s). I have a strong hunch that one remains, as the last two scenes refer specifically and only to Mammon. That means that Mammon must be among the four at the top of the list.

The reason PCM and / are at the top should be obvious. We're going into day 10 and we still don't have any information on them. There's a tiny bit out there about Rodion (that investigating for angels is an aspect of his role), and a decent amount on strike. We know that he's claimed human busdriver and we know his night actions up to night 6. What we don't know are his most recent actions and his role name (I wonder why he would omit that in his claim). Any thoughts?

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:01 pm

Pancake is currently browing the mafia forum, by the way.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby pancakemix on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:05 pm

I was coming in here to claim, actually, as Rodion already asked for it and I didn't have time last night. I'm your role gifter. Joan of Arc.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:13 pm

Cool. Something that worries me is that we only have evidence of 1 townie getting a gift from you all game long after 8 nights. Mind making a full claim?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:30 pm

By the way, I'm Raguel, angel. Not going to claim my full role because being an angel already clears me.

I'd like Violet and Fifth to fullclaim (along with Strike completing his list of actions) before / does.
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