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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:29 am

vodean wrote:alea acta est
doom, i dont know why you are pushing so hard to sell me as cult. i guess it must be in the hopes that town lynches you and you are shown to be no-longer cult. But you didnt recruit me night 4. you never recruited me. and so since you are trying hard to clear yourselves as cult falsely, you must still be cult.

THE CULT IS ACTIVE.

hippo, how can the necromicon find you?
can town not worship you now?
who is the greatest threat to town?

despite IB being "cleared" by the yith, i dont trust him. he is painting yog sogoth as scum... come on! he is also the only unknown faction, more or less. good place to start.


So you believe Yog loves humans? You believe Yog has Towns best interests? You stated your insane ramblings were made up...but in the beggining you chanted WORD for WORD the rite to raise the dead several times. So you were not randomly saying stuff.

You are either tied into the re-animator or Yog himself.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Nendreel on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:48 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Night 1 I slept and got a random dream effect of being protected for the night...
I imagine Rodion and myself will win with Nendreel and pcm, although I can't verify that.

We also targetted you Night 1, so we were your protection.
I can't verify if you win with us either. If you never got a PM mentioning a WC change then I would assume it is the same as before you were revived.

betiko wrote:Anyway, could the undead revivers be the blackbrotherhood? I don't see how numbers could add up otherwise... Unless witt and chap are black brotherhood. We need to pressure these 2 as they are the only remaining with complete unknonwn roles (unless one of the was the failed attempt to be captive minded last night?)

PCM and I are not the Black Brotherhood. Knowing that some people can learn about alignment I wouldn't have claimed unaligned and risk being caught in a lie. I'm sure by now someone thought to check on me.

Iron Butterfly wrote:So you believe Yog loves humans? You believe Yog has Towns best interests? You stated your insane ramblings were made up...but in the beggining you chanted WORD for WORD the rite to raise the dead several times. So you were not randomly saying stuff.

You are either tied into the re-animator or Yog himself.

A chant to Yog-Sothoth to raise the dead, and that he kept claiming I had lied should point you in the right direction on this one.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:52 am

Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote:Anyway, could the undead revivers be the blackbrotherhood? I don't see how numbers could add up otherwise... Unless witt and chap are black brotherhood. We need to pressure these 2 as they are the only remaining with complete unknonwn roles (unless one of the was the failed attempt to be captive minded last night?)

PCM and I are not the Black Brotherhood. Knowing that some people can learn about alignment I wouldn't have claimed unaligned and risk being caught in a lie. I'm sure by now someone thought to check on me.
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so, mr undead reviver, would you agree that at least one player between chap and witt is a black brotherhood member? maybe it has nothing to do with recruiting and there are just members of this "organization" from the start.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Nendreel on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:07 am

betiko wrote:
so, mr undead reviver, would you agree that at least one player between chap and witt is a black brotherhood member? maybe it has nothing to do with recruiting and there are just members of this "organization" from the start.


It would seem likely. If they cannot recruit (as seems to be the case) then there should be at least one member remaining. I would suggest pressuring Witt for info first since he seems to be more active and caught up.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:39 am

since hippo has already visited swifte (witt) and didn't find his love I guess we would learn more from chap...
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Nendreel on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:45 am

@Hippo: When you visit someone do you learn if they are holding the Necronomicon?
When you visit, can you take the Necronomicon or does the Necronomicon need to be given to you?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby jonty125 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:38 am

So, the Yog-thingmabob, who has been turning humans insane, wants the Necromicon, and this is going to benefit town? I don't see how that works.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:47 pm

jonty125 wrote:So, the Yog-thingmabob, who has been turning humans insane, wants the Necromicon, and this is going to benefit town? I don't see how that works.


I suspect that if Yog is freed with the Necronomicon it would be game over for everyone else.

If Jak would have recruited the number needed to win the game would not continue. I do not see how it could. I believe Yog is released by the Blackbrotherhood, though it may be possible they represent the Deep Ones.

Make no mistake there are other deities out there who have minions to help them.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Kanin Usagi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:12 pm

Kanin Usagi wrote:Swifte (and now Little Witt) might be night kill proof.

Yes, I did target doom, and from the scene it looks like SOMEONE was successful in killing him. And those two reanimators seem to continue getting very lucky(?) with their targets.

I have no body today. Make of that what you will.

Kanin Usagi wrote:All right, I'll go ahead and say it.

I believe hippo's claim. All of the Yith do, because last night new guy tried to get into Hippo's head and failed. Just like Jak's. Last night I tried to get into another players head. I failed. I assume that if Jak was one of the Gods, and Hippo is one of the Gods, then this third player is also one of the Gods. Possibly Cthulu.

Its little witt I tried to get into.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby rishaed on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:56 pm

vote vodean For Blatant lying. Both Doom and Comm9 have already confirmed that you are cult, that you completely deny this obvious, but right now I trust comm9 and doom more on telling the truth about whose cult because they were pissed about outing themselves, while it says that you and Jak were pushing for it.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five

Postby rishaed on Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:15 pm

Commander9 wrote:First of all, Vodean and Jak, no offence but you're both assholes and slightly retarded too. You both shared the same winning condition, yet you thought that ousting more culties is a good idea. Well done... I'm particularly annoyed as I just needed to survive... FML. And the way I got there, I asked a question from Shogoth (who was dead) and apparently turned to cult somehow. Awesome.

Since it's pretty much over unless I'd be fixed with Jak's death, I'm saying good game. It's a shame really as even after I became of cult, I just needed to survive till end game, but Jak ensured that could not happen. Basically, I am still willing to cooperate as I just need to survive, but I would fully understand if you would not. Well played Rodion, IB and other scum.

Here is the one from Comm9, basically venting his anger. So you're denial just became 10x more of a lie since Doom has confirmed.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:41 pm

rishaed wrote:
Commander9 wrote:First of all, Vodean and Jak, no offence but you're both assholes and slightly retarded too. You both shared the same winning condition, yet you thought that ousting more culties is a good idea. Well done... I'm particularly annoyed as I just needed to survive... FML. And the way I got there, I asked a question from Shogoth (who was dead) and apparently turned to cult somehow. Awesome.

Since it's pretty much over unless I'd be fixed with Jak's death, I'm saying good game. It's a shame really as even after I became of cult, I just needed to survive till end game, but Jak ensured that could not happen. Basically, I am still willing to cooperate as I just need to survive, but I would fully understand if you would not. Well played Rodion, IB and other scum.

Here is the one from Comm9, basically venting his anger. So you're denial just became 10x more of a lie since Doom has confirmed.



did that sound like these guys would miraculously stop being town after jak's death?

ok now IB let's cut the bullshit, I'm asking you again. It would be good to know if the "ask about a player's alignment" we can ask yog gives correct answers or not. I am not going to ask you what you are now, but what you were on night 2/ day 3, please tell me the truth, does the yog crap works or not??? It's probably not worth losing time lynching the (ex?)cults by now given all we have to deal with already, and if we are told by yog that they are unaligned, 3rd party or anything other than cult/scum we might as well let them be.
Geez, this lonely hippo case seems like yesterday again.... any other god is going to show up and mess with us??

witt, what type of terrifying creature are you??
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:42 pm

ebwop:
did that sound like these guys would miraculously stop being cult after jak's death?

obviously lol!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Rodion on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:51 pm

Spiesr is correct about Vodean: Vodean never confessed, while Commander and Doom did. If we are to test a cultist lynch/vig, it should feature one of the confessed cultists. We may, however, have bigger fish to fry.

Yith: what flavour did you get on the failed attempts at Hippo/Witt?

Hippo: how are you affected by having people ask (or not ask) questions to you at night?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:18 pm

@ Nendreel, IB & Rodion - I have not had the mechanism described - it is possible I have visited someone who is actually holding the Necromicon but they have not released it (or I got blocked or something). Each night nothing seems to happen and I do not receive any response from /. So, at this stage all I can say is that I keep looking for my loved one and hopefully it appears - maybe it has to be given to me? As to whether that spells doom for everyone, the initial PM does not suggest anything other than I have met my win condition and I will then have power to help out humans. If you read up on the Mythos Lore, I am no threat to human-kind ... quite the reverse. If you are not human, however, then I am a threat to you!!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby new guy1 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:42 pm

So you are a threat to me?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm

new guy1 wrote:So you are a threat to me?

Not if you can meet your win objective with humans! But essentially ... yes!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:03 pm

Rodion wrote:Spiesr is correct about Vodean: Vodean never confessed, while Commander and Doom did. If we are to test a cultist lynch/vig, it should feature one of the confessed cultists. We may, however, have bigger fish to fry.

Yith: what flavour did you get on the failed attempts at Hippo/Witt?

Hippo: how are you affected by having people ask (or not ask) questions to you at night?


vodean outed me. How would he know that information unless he was in the cult?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Little Witt on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:07 pm

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Yith: what flavour did you get on the failed attempts at Hippo/Witt?

Hippo: how are you affected by having people ask (or not ask) questions to you at night?


vodean outed me. How would he know that information unless he was in the cult?


Good point, I'm just gonna throw this out here for now Vote Vodean
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Rodion on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:15 pm

I don't know. Perhaps through questioning Yog? All I'm saying is Commander and you are 100% confessed cult, while Vodean's case is merely "more than likely". I don't see why Vodean should die first, that's all I'm saying.

Did anyone else feel Little Witt's post/vote is extremely scummy, given the circumstances of a pending Yith report on him?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Three

Postby rishaed on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:23 pm

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ghostly447 wrote:I am an Elder God, alone in my ventures as a survivor.
Bold Blue is my response to Vodean. Come on buddy, please read. I am a survivor, that is my alignment and my WC in...wait for it...To survive. :)

that is a lie. i dont know why you are lying, but your WC is to eliminate the elder gods AND outer gods. fp jak


He forgot that I also have to kill the Great Old Ones. Thats why I claimed one of the 3 I had to kill. haha

After thinking about this for awhile (and from what Hippo recently said) I think that the different God's are trying to kill each other off and the humans are in the middle point or pick sides to the entire thing. It might explain on why we have so many survivor humans with a WORSHIP condition on changing alignment, however this is purely theoretical and not proven at all in the game mechanics.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:29 pm

Rodion wrote:I don't know. Perhaps through questioning Yog? All I'm saying is Commander and you are 100% confessed cult, while Vodean's case is merely "more than likely". I don't see why Vodean should die first, that's all I'm saying.

Did anyone else feel Little Witt's post/vote is extremely scummy, given the circumstances of a pending Yith report on him?


if you remember i told you to think better about it. there is no way vodean could know all he knew through yog, there were just not enough nights and we don't get answers in such details. He was an insider of the jak conspiracy, i don't know how you can even question it. confirmed by a pissed off commander who saw how he got recruited by some guys who made him lose in an ugly way.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby Little Witt on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:33 pm

Rodion wrote:I don't know. Perhaps through questioning Yog? All I'm saying is Commander and you are 100% confessed cult, while Vodean's case is merely "more than likely". I don't see why Vodean should die first, that's all I'm saying.


Because he clearly knows more than he should! Like betiko said

betiko wrote:if you remember i told you to think better about it. there is no way vodean could know all he knew through yog, there were just not enough nights and we don't get answers in such details. He was an insider of the jak conspiracy, i don't know how you can even question it. confirmed by a pissed off commander who saw how he got recruited by some guys who made him lose in an ugly way.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby spiesr on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:40 pm

betiko wrote:
Rodion wrote:I don't know. Perhaps through questioning Yog? All I'm saying is Commander and you are 100% confessed cult, while Vodean's case is merely "more than likely". I don't see why Vodean should die first, that's all I'm saying.

Did anyone else feel Little Witt's post/vote is extremely scummy, given the circumstances of a pending Yith report on him?
if you remember i told you to think better about it. there is no way vodean could know all he knew through yog, there were just not enough nights and we don't get answers in such details. He was an insider of the jak conspiracy, i don't know how you can even question it. confirmed by a pissed off commander who saw how he got recruited by some guys who made him lose in an ugly way.
That isn't the point here. As Rodion explained, if we are going to test one of the cultists it needs to be DoomYoshi of Commander. Additionally, as rishead just reposted, Vodean has been coming up with junk about win conditions that he shouldn't have via conventional means all game.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Six

Postby betiko on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:59 pm

spiesr wrote:
betiko wrote:
Rodion wrote:I don't know. Perhaps through questioning Yog? All I'm saying is Commander and you are 100% confessed cult, while Vodean's case is merely "more than likely". I don't see why Vodean should die first, that's all I'm saying.

Did anyone else feel Little Witt's post/vote is extremely scummy, given the circumstances of a pending Yith report on him?
if you remember i told you to think better about it. there is no way vodean could know all he knew through yog, there were just not enough nights and we don't get answers in such details. He was an insider of the jak conspiracy, i don't know how you can even question it. confirmed by a pissed off commander who saw how he got recruited by some guys who made him lose in an ugly way.
That isn't the point here. As Rodion explained, if we are going to test one of the cultists it needs to be DoomYoshi of Commander. Additionally, as rishead just reposted, Vodean has been coming up with junk about win conditions that he shouldn't have via conventional means all game.


wut? you are quoting me on something that is then requoted by rishaed from me. Then you tell me that I'm talking about unrelated stuff but that rishaed's got a point... lol.

and no I don't agree. doom is undead, commander is an alien. vodean aligned himsef to the cult through worshipping. As vodean has a less complex role we get a less biaised result by testing him. anyway, as i said before, cult isn't what we should focus on, they can't grow anymore.

and yes rishaed why not... your theory could stand. maybe when we worship someone we end up always worshipping a god as aligned people might all be aligned with a particular god?
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