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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby rishaed on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:43 pm

spiesr wrote:Interesting, it seems that if everyone had revealed everything on Day 1 and everybody trusted each other to work to together there could have been 25 winners. (The Cthulhu/Hastor pair being the only place where someone had to lose.) As it is 16 still managed to win.

However that takes the fun out of the game. . . as it was by D5/6 we basically knew what everyone was by reason of "vanilla" flavor/Yith/Elderthing outing then know pretty much the exact amount of cult. I'm just laughing about the fact that Doom was right about elon, but if elon would have been honest he wouldn't of had to of been lynched.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby Nendreel on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:50 pm

rishaed wrote:
spiesr wrote:Interesting, it seems that if everyone had revealed everything on Day 1 and everybody trusted each other to work to together there could have been 25 winners. (The Cthulhu/Hastor pair being the only place where someone had to lose.) As it is 16 still managed to win.

However that takes the fun out of the game. . . as it was by D5/6 we basically knew what everyone was by reason of "vanilla" flavor/Yith/Elderthing outing then know pretty much the exact amount of cult. I'm just laughing about the fact that Doom was right about elon, but if elon would have been honest he wouldn't of had to of been lynched.


Didn't really matter, since the very next thing we did was lynch the Elder Things and fulfill his WC for him.
And then kill the Gods and thus fulfill the ET's WC for them.
Ah making people win in spite of themselves, good fun. :lol:
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby rishaed on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:07 pm

I bet PCM isn't happy for being recruited before he won though >.>.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby jak111 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:42 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Jak, you can't call me useless. You recruited the only human with no powers at all, so it serves you right. You shouldve gone with one of the killers.


I did not call you useless, but I could have had a hand from the more powerful convertees to help with the case I pushed. Unfortunally it was to no avail and was a poor try with no back-up.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:26 pm

I suppose at the end, PCM could have pushed for my lynch, but with no kill, he would still face a 2v1 vote the next day with ng unable to vote.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:35 pm

I think it's a bit unfair for certain players to see how much effort they've put into this and lost, and the shoggoth and elder things doing absolutely nothing and being quite useless all won quite in spite of them! :lol:

I would ve been quite pissed if I had lost and I guess rishaed too; killing all humans was hell of difficult and we were never told during the game that if it happened after our death (and there was actually just 1 human left!) it wouldn't count. I don't really understand why we regained sanity after dying. hopefully we've bet on the right (water)horse. the shoggoth's wc was a true piece of cake compared to that, just 3 to kill and didn't need to survive.

When I look at all the mechanics, I really got unlucky on night 1! :? game long PR, and a switch to an almost impossible WC! hopefully there still was the worship X!

/, you never really wanted to reveal this when asked: if hippo had lost and I had acheived the SK WC, given that I worshipped hippo after received the SK WC, would I have still won? in other words, would I have won with any of these 2 WC? I guess so right, because rishaed did it the other way around?

But yes, this was definitely the best game I've ever played in, really original. What was really interesting is that even claiming and knowing all the roles, you still didn't know who was more beneficial to kill cause we didn't have all the perks.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby / on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:48 pm

betiko wrote:/, you never really wanted to reveal this when asked: if hippo had lost and I had acheived the SK WC, given that I worshipped hippo after received the SK WC, would I have still won? in other words, would I have won with any of these 2 WC? I guess so right, because rishaed did it the other way around?

Yes, both win conditions were valid, but as an insanity; the SK condition disappears upon death.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby Kanin Usagi on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:22 pm

Team Yith for MVPs! ^_^ Good job everyone. Finally seeing all the roles answers a hell of a lot of questions!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby / on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:12 am

Thanks for playing, I had a lot of fun, I'm glad so many of you liked it too.
This was by far the most complex game I've had to run, with an end count of 309 PMs sent to me related to the game.
Congratulations to the winning parties who will receive special medals.
Now it is time to vote for an MVP to receive the premium membership upgrade from Conquer Clubs own discussion team.
Go ahead and talk it out, and our resident mods pancakemix and blakebowling can award the winner.
Good Luck!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby betiko on Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:11 am

/ wrote:Thanks for playing, I had a lot of fun, I'm glad so many of you liked it too.
This was by far the most complex game I've had to run, with an end count of 309 PMs sent to me related to the game.
Congratulations to the winning parties who will receive special medals.
Now it is time to vote for an MVP to receive the premium membership upgrade from Conquer Clubs own discussion team.
Go ahead and talk it out, and our resident mods pancakemix and blakebowling can award the winner.
Good Luck!
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who was the most prolific sending you PMs? I think I must be high on that list! :D

concerning the MVP very hard call. Some players did really well untill they got cult recruited, which they had very little to do with, or killed and zombified, or turned insane for just sleeping. There was a big part of luck in this game as you had been throwing dice to see what will happen with a same given action.

Anyway quite immodestly I would put myself in the finalists for that title. It wasn't easy to go through all game with my PR, (tell in 100% of my messages something about undead, something ugly or something lonely, even if I might have forgotten it a couple of times or so posting a quick reply..). I believe I was the most prolific poster this game which made it even more difficult. Dice were a bitch with me on night 1, just went for a tranquile sleep and ended up with that game long PR and a new mission: kill all humans! how was I supposed to do that?? I kind of had to think very long term, so went for all inactives first (and I prefered action rather than sleeping over and over and prey for a sanity that would most likely never come back). I figured there were some other night kills, and those killers would target more active humans so I eventually would get some help. I knew that at some point I would have had to talk, so I wanted something that could be justified from begining to end. Also, at some point when witt/ctulhu was killed and hippo seemed sure where to get the book from; it seemed more than likely that he acheived a WC. I had to use my worship X to stop being only a survivor, and diversified my assets with hippo. Gamewise I could still play ball for town, they were all revived so none was an enemy +yith.
There was this serial killer, and could prove to town it wasn't me. It took me a bit of time to tell the truth, was a bit unsure between jonty and rishaed.
The night I got masoned with soundman, I told him I would go for rishaed, that I would agree the next day to kill hippo (he really wanted this, and as I thought there was a strong chance for hippo to have already won, I could help him killing hippo) then the next day wether I'm there or not get rid of PCM. This was covering both of my win conditions, but I didn't know that I had to survive to acheive the "kill all humans"...
So if technically the game ended with all humans dead I just fulfilled 1 ou of 2 WC. I unfortunately discovered Rishaed was the SK too late and we ended killing each other the same night.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:08 am

Bad form to nominate yourself.

I also believe it is next to impossible to have an MVP. There were several phases to this game, more so then others and each player played a different part.

For me I know I played a big part as did rodion in trying to lynch Jak. First we had to prove he was full of crap and then we needed to get the lynch. After that happened it was as if the game was a different one. I believe that after Jak was lynched I choose to worship Newguy. I was hoping to survive and kill the baddies for the challenge of doing so and then realized the futility of such a quest.

i do not believe you can point to one person and say without them we would have been screwed.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby betiko on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:30 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:Bad form to nominate yourself.

I also believe it is next to impossible to have an MVP. There were several phases to this game, more so then others and each player played a different part.

For me I know I played a big part as did rodion in trying to lynch Jak. First we had to prove he was full of crap and then we needed to get the lynch. After that happened it was as if the game was a different one. I believe that after Jak was lynched I choose to worship Newguy. I was hoping to survive and kill the baddies for the challenge of doing so and then realized the futility of such a quest.

i do not believe you can point to one person and say without them we would have been screwed.


well I've just said among the finalists, and to be perfectly honnest, chosing an MVP for this game is really hard. Among the 4 players left only 1 has never died, NG1 and I think the yith could ve been more organized collecting all the precious data they gathered but nothing was ever kept and they forgot the results they had after a while, so they could've been much more helpfull in that sense, they also missed a few night actions.

Otherwise, killing jak wasn't a good thing as we could've ended the game much quicker and (I didn't do the math) but certainly with more people winning. The fact that you and rodion were so much against the cult faction made it really difficult to accept their deal that was fair; and if I'm not wrong hippo is the only one who benefitted from it. You had the worship ability as well and it was in your advantage as well to follow his plot.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:15 am

spiesr or Rodion for capturing jak so quickly. They were voices of reason in the cacophony of bullshit I was trying to push.

I think it's a bit unfair for certain players to see how much effort they've put into this and lost, and the shoggoth and elder things doing absolutely nothing and being quite useless all won quite in spite of them!


This is the reason people hate cults on mafiascum, although here on CC, we love them.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:19 am

LMAO @ all 9 humans having the same role and me totally calling it day 1.
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