[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[vodean]

in the twilight of old rose man.

im no more in favor of raising soggoth than anyone else who is not in favor.

it sounds like the BW on me is moving, so im going to claim. Im a "normal human" 3rd party, like the other humans. that is the reason i knew to ask doom what his alignment was. so whoever asked that earlier, yes. i just didnt want to give it away then. despite being 3rd party, we are essentially joats, and are the footsoldiers of town. im just a survivor. im pretty sure that thats not too much info from the role PM, since most of it isnt even in the role PM. i have no name. i feel like the hints i dropped earlier regarding humans should confirm my role.

[edocsil]

in the twilight of old rose man.

im no more in favor of raising soggoth than anyone else who is not in favor.

it sounds like the BW on me is moving, so im going to claim. Im a "normal human" 3rd party, like the other humans. that is the reason i knew to ask doom what his alignment was. so whoever asked that earlier, yes. i just didnt want to give it away then. despite being 3rd party, we are essentially joats, and are the footsoldiers of town. im just a survivor. im pretty sure that thats not too much info from the role PM, since most of it isnt even in the role PM. i have no name. i feel like the hints i dropped earlier regarding humans should confirm my role.

Yes, we all surmised that. What action did you take to lose your sanity.

[jak111]

Jonty might want to explain his own chants if he thinks Vodean's is to bring Shaggoth back.

[DoomYoshi]

Such a remarkable revelation from vodean. Why not tell us something we don't know?

[DoomYoshi]

Rodion: not posted yet today, likes to lay low until day 3, can we at least get an acknowledgment of the scene? Why didn't you vote for elon yesterday even though you supported the case?

I'm behind. Gonna catch up soon.

Meanwhile, regarding Elon, I never supported the case. I said you had reached an interesting conclusion but it sorely depended on a premise ("all human 'VTs' got the same role PM"). Then I asked you whether you had proof that all "humans" had the same role PM, which would convince me, but you never presented that proof.

The main part of the case is that he was lying. Regardless of whatever role I had. Did you miss that post?

[Rodion]

Rodion: not posted yet today, likes to lay low until day 3, can we at least get an acknowledgment of the scene? Why didn't you vote for elon yesterday even though you supported the case?

I'm behind. Gonna catch up soon.

Meanwhile, regarding Elon, I never supported the case. I said you had reached an interesting conclusion but it sorely depended on a premise ("all human 'VTs' got the same role PM"). Then I asked you whether you had proof that all "humans" had the same role PM, which would convince me, but you never presented that proof.

The main part of the case is that he was lying. Regardless of whatever role I had. Did you miss that post?

I wonder whether I had skimmed? From what I remember, the situation was the following:

1 - Elon says his gut (and only his gut) tells him there is a cult
2 - Elon says he's a human
3 - Yoshi says he's a human and his role PM tells him of a cult
4 - Yoshi assumes all humans got the same role PM, which means that either:
a) Elon is not a human, so he's a liar (lied on "2")
b) Elon is a human, but then he had more than his gut to conclude there was a cult, so he's a liar (lied on "1")

That's what I understood from all that. I wanted proof on "4" ("that all humans had the same role PM") so that the syllogism would be flawless. Being that there was no proof and it was just an "assumption", I decided not to join the wagon.

[DoomYoshi]

No, elon never said he was a human. It's all in the past now though.

Here's what I am doing now: I am going back through day 1 and compiling a list of all the humans we have based on VT tells and reactions and such. Anyone else who wants to be on the list should add themselves now. Keep in mind that being a Human does not mean that a player is cleared. If we are to progress through this monster hunting, I want to at least narrow my list down. Since I am making the list for myself, I may as well share it with everyone.

Anyways (from the top of my head):

Humans
vodean
jonty (these 2 are insane)
Sully
yoshi
edoc

Non-Humans:
spiesr
strike wolf

Unsure right now:
everyone else

[strike wolf]

Question: why do you believe me to be non-human?

[DoomYoshi]

After looking over day 1:

Keep in mind these are my opinions, and I am not 100% on all of them.

Humans
vodean
jonty (these 2 are insane)
Sully
yoshi
edoc
rishaed (how did I forget this one)
Kanin (maybe)

Non-Humans:
spiesr
strike wolf
Rodion (iffy at first, def on this list now though)
betiko
Nendreel (but probably not a monster)
Commander9 (leaning scum)
ghostly (unsure on alignment, slight fos)
Iron Butterfly (fos'ed)
jak
safariguy (im not too worried about saf, i think im pretty good at reading his scum game now)
new guy (last minute change due to gut feeling)

Unsure right now:
LSU (still strongly leaning scum, playing very similar to vodean, but without the humanity)
pcm (could be a human trying really hard to pretend not to be)
voldemort (not posting enough to really tell)
thehippo8 (this guy is impossible to read)
Swifte
crazymilkshake5 (who hasn't posted at all yet... WTF??)

For the Record, here is some proof that I already knew your role explicitly on page 16, vodean. So, catch up with the game and tell you did with yog-sothoth already.]

I'm starting to get frustrated here.

I didn't softclaim unlynchable. I was just saying that without a case you can't lynch me.

It doesn't seem like that is true though. You people are lynching me for no reason.

Vodean, I'm not fake claiming. I'm claiming to have a role called townie. Since I have the most basic role, and I know it isnt strictly "vanilla" I was able to surmise that
A) there are no vanillas, and therefore no boring roles.
B) elonpuckhog, and a few others (like vodean) have the same role.

Now that all the VTs have basically given themseleves away, this game is just stupid.

I am not going to contribute anything more today. Lynch me if you want, I don't care any more.

vote betiko

For pretending to be human, when he is clearly not.

FP'ed by strike: for thinking that humans are cleared townies.

[DoomYoshi]

I suppose I should say that when I say "non-human" I mean people who have a different role than me, not necessarily that you are a monster.

[new guy1]

I was going to add that you had said for meta reasons you did not think I was town, but it looks like you got it down already. Now I know the list is not "official roles" and all that, but I would also like to question what meta you used to think I was not town, just cause Im curious.

fastposted

[DoomYoshi]

I was going to add that you had said for meta reasons you did not think I was town, but it looks like you got it down already. Now I know the list is not "official roles" and all that, but I would also like to question what meta you used to think I was not town, just cause Im curious.

fastposted

You agreed with the case on elon, and voted him for it. However, it was the exact case I presented on you in Battle of the Bulge.

The case boils down to:
a)player says something awkward
b) player is scum or lying

[new guy1]

Lol, well I was a cop in battle of the bulge, so I dont see how that proves Im not town.

[rishaed]

maybe because i haven't had anything of substance to post of in the last few days? That aside things could get tricky, and Vodean's claim is believable to me at least. Lets focus somewhere else for now.

[jonty125]

Other stars anon shall rise

Jonty might want to explain his own chants if he thinks Vodean's is to bring Shaggoth back.

I have already provided a link to what I was chanting. FOS jak for skimming. Link to Post Showing Previous Link