[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[jak111]

Other stars anon shall rise

Jonty might want to explain his own chants if he thinks Vodean's is to bring Shaggoth back.

I have already provided a link to what I was chanting. FOS jak for skimming. Link to Post Showing Previous Link

Linking is one thing, but you still never explained why you're doing it. Which is the whole point of me asking you to explain when you're doing something similar to Vodean yet you think Vodean's is to resurrect Shaggoth, what is yours for?

[vodean]

trouble in the realm of muan, chaos elsewhere.

i realize that many of you though i was human. i was merely confirming it.
i tracked betiko, who visited no one. that raises the question of why... it seeems to be an NV game. so why, betiko, did you not visit anyone?
the reason why i am insane is that someone used an action on me. they must have gained some valuable information, because I went insane. thats how i read insanity as occurring from my role PM.
and jonty, you ought to know that im not ressurecting soggoth. if you are insane, then the chant i chanted at the start was probably given to you. i just was wondering whether chants could actually have any power.

[ghostly447]

Jonty is writing from a poem. There are 3 possible things that I can think of off the top of my head:

1. More likely: Since he is posting a constant amount (not too much) and following the poem line for line, I think he has a post limit (think about it like this. The poem as somehow trapped him inside his slumber. It is a dream from which he CANNOT awake according to the link he gave us).

2. Less likely: Once he completes the lines in this poem, he will no longer be insane.

3. Even less like: Once he completes the lines in this poem, he will die or raise someone from the dead.

4. Other

Jonty, if you are able to confirm any of these, confirm by slipping the number of the correct option in your next post. If it is something else, use the number 4 so we can try to figure it out.

[Iron Butterfly]

in the twilight of old rose man.

im no more in favor of raising soggoth than anyone else who is not in favor.

it sounds like the BW on me is moving, so im going to claim. Im a "normal human" 3rd party, like the other humans. that is the reason i knew to ask doom what his alignment was. so whoever asked that earlier, yes. i just didnt want to give it away then. despite being 3rd party, we are essentially joats, and are the footsoldiers of town. im just a survivor. im pretty sure that thats not too much info from the role PM, since most of it isnt even in the role PM. i have no name. i feel like the hints i dropped earlier regarding humans should confirm my role.

If you are 3rd party and a survivor your allegiance is not to Town but to whomever wins...If you can survive to endgame.
How are you allied with Town as the winning condition for a survivor is to which ever faction wins?

[thehippo8]

... i realize that many of you though i was human. i was merely confirming it.
...

This sticks out to me. Is Vode saying he is human or not? Or is he saying that he is just being agreeable with what others are saying but is not himself saying what he is? I find this slightly disturbing and can't help wonder if he is alluding to he is not human? He has claimed tracker, I note there has not been a counterclaim. But note also that tracker can be town, third party or jscum - so that claim alone isn't determinative. Any thoughts?

[Iron Butterfly]

trouble in the realm of muan, chaos elsewhere.

i realize that many of you though i was human. i was merely confirming it.
i tracked betiko, who visited no one. that raises the question of why... it seeems to be an NV game. so why, betiko, did you not visit anyone?
the reason why i am insane is that someone used an action on me. they must have gained some valuable information, because I went insane. thats how i read insanity as occurring from my role PM.
and jonty, you ought to know that im not ressurecting soggoth. if you are insane, then the chant i chanted at the start was probably given to you. i just was wondering whether chants could actually have any power.

You seem to be floundering now with silly WIFOM arguments and misdirection.

Vote Vodean

[thehippo8]

EBWOP

Is corrected to has ... clicked the edit tab rather than the quote tab ... damn fat fingers

[edocsil]

trouble in the realm of muan, chaos elsewhere.

i realize that many of you though i was human. i was merely confirming it.
i tracked betiko, who visited no one. that raises the question of why... it seeems to be an NV game. so why, betiko, did you not visit anyone?
the reason why i am insane is that someone used an action on me. they must have gained some valuable information, because I went insane. thats how i read insanity as occurring from my role PM.
and jonty, you ought to know that im not ressurecting soggoth. if you are insane, then the chant i chanted at the start was probably given to you. i just was wondering whether chants could actually have any power.

So let me ask you this. Are you town?

[DoomYoshi]

He already answered that edoc. I am willing to join you in your crusade later, edoc, but this narrow focus is stopping the discussion from spreading out to new avenues.

[thehippo8]

He already answered that edoc. I am willing to join you in your crusade later, edoc, but this narrow focus is stopping the discussion from spreading out to new avenues.

Doom, I think you have missed the point . He has alluded but he has not actually claimed.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I'm guessing the insanity would be some kind of horrendous PR since we are still responsible for posting our own thoughts in here.

LSU. You addressed insanity and then posted "since we are...thoughts in here". Does this mean you are insane and you know for a fact you are still in charge of your own thoughts?

I have not gone insane at this point. When I said "responsible..." I meant in that this isn't epic mafia where whatever you type comes out "goofy" when you've gone insane by chu.

[rishaed]

no hippo. He did claim. And he is human. Vodean, seeing as you are human, and my information that could be sensitive is already out. I tracked Vod. last night and he "went/visited" nobody. That leaves two pieces of information for me to process.
A. In reality you did not go anywhere.
B. Betiko is either 1. Human or 2. Scum that did not kill last night. Either way I'm pretty sure he's on vacation right about now.

[spiesr]

Alright, now we have a situation where rishaed's claimed action appears to directly contradict with Vodean's claimed action. So, what do we do with this information. Vodean, you can confirm that you got a result from your action last night yes?
If so it looks like there some possibilities.
1. Somebody is lying.
2. A busdriver action switched Vodean with someone last night.
3. Something complicated happened.

[rishaed]

Alright, now we have a situation where rishaed's claimed action appears to directly contradict with Vodean's claimed action. So, what do we do with this information. Vodean, you can confirm that you got a result from your action last night yes?
If so it looks like there some possibilities.
1. Somebody is lying.
2. A busdriver action switched Vodean with someone last night.
3. Something complicated happened.

No its rather simple speisr. HE Didn't go anywhere, but neither of us are lying because I technically did not go anywhere either. Anyone who has our role will know what I am talking about. If you look at my two options then you will realize that nowhere did I call Vodean "SCUM", I confirmed his role as a human, but I still would like to reserve as much information that I deem not especially necessary or not yet revealed as I can. Sorry if that confuses you speisr.

[rishaed]

Alright, now we have a situation where rishaed's claimed action appears to directly contradict with Vodean's claimed action. So, what do we do with this information. Vodean, you can confirm that you got a result from your action last night yes?
If so it looks like there some possibilities.
1. Somebody is lying.
2. A busdriver action switched Vodean with someone last night.
3. Something complicated happened.

No its rather simple speisr. HE Didn't go anywhere, but neither of us are lying because I technically did not go anywhere either. Anyone who has our role will know what I am talking about. If you look at my two options then you will realize that nowhere did I call Vodean "SCUM", I confirmed his role as a human, but I still would like to reserve as much information that I deem not especially necessary or not yet revealed as I can. Sorry if that confuses you speisr.

EBWOP
Sorry I just realized that there may be a third option. His role could be something that comes into play after an event/time frame has been met.