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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 pm

pancakemix wrote:Look, if people are following you they probably want something to happen, likely because you want that something to happen. People don't follow gods for them to dick around. There's an end goal to religions all over. Do you honestly want us to believe that there are people worshipping you and there's really no reason why?

I:
a) Had to claim because you nimrods wanted to know Risaed's alignment.
b) Have been reading, but quite frankly it is difficult when everyone in here is completely ignorant (proof shown with me being forced to repost the whole thing I defended myself with in order for you all to realize I didnt change anything I said, I just used it from my old posts.


Neither of those things even makes sense. No one forced you to claim or to reveal your WC. You did that on your own. One vote is not pressure enough. And you misunderstand why you weren't lynched yesterday: LoVo was said to have a killing power, therefore was likely scum. There was easily more reason to lynch him.

Also, just saying, calling everyone nimrods is not helping your case at all.


Read my claim again and what happens if I die.
Yeah. I should have just waited to get to L-2 then claim so that people believed me even less in a last ditch effort to preserve my life. They never just say "Well then, I still say lynch him because he was acting scummy, so it must be a fake claim". That never happens, right?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:33 pm

spiesr wrote:
betiko wrote:yes... how the hell did you get that type of specific info vode? i think yog wouldn't give that much intel.. Is it the other type of wierd thingy? Also can someone give a better explanation about elder gods, are they directly lovecraft related or lovecraft inspired? from what i understood on wiki they are lovecraft inspired and therefore shouldn't be in this game? I feel alone in this overwhelming lovecraft universe i don't understand!
I thought you were a "Human", shouldn't you know that one of the things that can be asked of Yog-Sothoth is a player's alignment? I assume that this is what Vodean's revelation stems from, but he needs to stop being incoherent and confirm it.
Note to ghostly: This thing which appears to be a claimed action from Vodean will be the primary factor if you are lynched today.
That said, saying contradictory things like this:
ghostly447 wrote:I win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
When you are claiming to be a survivor doesn't help your case. There is no good reason for you not to be able to keep your win condition straight.
ghostly447 wrote:I am an Elder God, alone in my ventures as a survivor.
Also, doesn't the part about "alone" not make much sense when paired with all that stuff you said about your followers yesterday? You can't be alone and also a member of a faction like that, can you?

I myself am alone. My followers, I suppose, are a different faction.

I am not going to try to say anymore. I tried. I lost. DoomYoshi, I started getting mad when you role fished. I got more angry when I had to repost my claim in its entirety again today. I am now even more pissed that after I was forced to do that, you think that I am doing it in a hypocritical way. I did it because of the ignorance of several players leading to them being unable to attach:
1) that I took my WC, and name claim straight from my initial claim post. - Doom
2) that I was told that I needed to post more about my role even though I posted tons of shit on it before (Go to my first post of claiming, if that wasnt enough details, I dont know what is. - Jak
3) I got yet another player up my ass likely role fishing trying to get me to squirm more. - Vodean
4) A completely un-noted BW - PCM

Lets see. I dont think I a being an asshole insulting people. I believe I am calling ignorant people ignorant. You even happened to ignore the part on D3 where I posted SHOWING where the were advocating for not only my claim, but my potential lynch should my claim not be upheld.


Sorry, I meant to post this with the rest of my post. But I forgot to copy and paste it to here.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:39 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Rodion wrote:How do you know that, Vodean?
+1

Also, thank you for giving up on your "PR".

Unvote Vote Ghostly
Im lovin the straight up unnoted BW
Is there a problem with pancake voting for you after vodean basically claimed to have evidence that you are lying? It seems like a completely reasonable thing for him to do.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 pm

spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Rodion wrote:How do you know that, Vodean?
+1

Also, thank you for giving up on your "PR".

Unvote Vote Ghostly
Im lovin the straight up unnoted BW
Is there a problem with pancake voting for you after vodean basically claimed to have evidence that you are lying? It seems like a completely reasonable thing for him to do.
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I am done. Has he posted how he knows? NO. Do you really think that all of these third party claims are believable? NO. Is Vodean EVER someone you believe, especially when he takes up the whole insane thing and then proceeds to say "Im just making the lines up, Im not insane". NO. Who does that?

I hate to be critical to all of you, and I deeply apologize, but mafia just isnt fun anymore. When the tactics switch from real scum hunting to role fishing and then ignoring everything else, it just seems like a waste of time. I will keep playing, obviously, in hopes that it gets to a better state but come on. Just because I am the major case today, doesnt mean the rest must be left without a glance.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:48 pm

@Doom - thanks for that confirmation. It has nothing to do with Lovecraft!! It comes from Donald Wandrei (1997) [1932]. "The Tree Men of M'bwa". Don't Dream. Minneapolis, MN: Fedogan & Bremer. ISBN 1-878252-27-5.

There were many pretenders to the throne and Donald was one of them!

So, its a fake claim ... unvote (if required) vote Ghostly

Fastposted numerous tiems (including Nendreel saying the same)
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:53 pm

thehippo8 wrote:@Doom - thanks for that confirmation. It has nothing to do with Lovecraft!! It comes from Donald Wandrei (1997) [1932]. "The Tree Men of M'bwa". Don't Dream. Minneapolis, MN: Fedogan & Bremer. ISBN 1-878252-27-5.

There were many pretenders to the throne and Donald was one of them!

So, its a fake claim ... unvote (if required) vote Ghostly

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Link please to the proof.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:54 pm

If the proof is valid, please dont lynch me yet as I have one last thing to say. In towns favor possibly.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:58 pm

thehippo8 wrote:
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How confident are you that said character not being written by Lovecraft himself, but rather being part of the extended universe, makes it a fake-claim?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:01 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Rodion wrote:How do you know that, Vodean?
+1

Also, thank you for giving up on your "PR".

Unvote Vote Ghostly
Im lovin the straight up unnoted BW
Is there a problem with pancake voting for you after vodean basically claimed to have evidence that you are lying? It seems like a completely reasonable thing for him to do.
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I am done. Has he posted how he knows? NO. Do you really think that all of these third party claims are believable? NO. Is Vodean EVER someone you believe, especially when he takes up the whole insane thing and then proceeds to say "Im just making the lines up, Im not insane". NO. Who does that?

I hate to be critical to all of you, and I deeply apologize, but mafia just isnt fun anymore. When the tactics switch from real scum hunting to role fishing and then ignoring everything else, it just seems like a waste of time. I will keep playing, obviously, in hopes that it gets to a better state but come on. Just because I am the major case today, doesnt mean the rest must be left without a glance.

Nobody was rolefishing. I specifically said I didn't want a claim.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:04 pm

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thehippo8 wrote:
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How confident are you that said character not being written by Lovecraft himself, but rather being part of the extended universe, makes it a fake-claim?

I guess you are right. No doubt there are muppets, band members from the London Philharmonic, random people selected from a telephone directory and selected iterations of multiples of Pi here too? After all, they are all members of the universe! Get a grip!!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:05 pm

thehippo8 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:
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How confident are you that said character not being written by Lovecraft himself, but rather being part of the extended universe, makes it a fake-claim?

I guess you are right. No doubt there are muppets, band members from the London Philharmonic, random people selected from a telephone directory and selected iterations of multiples of Pi here too? After all, they are all members of the universe! Get a grip!!


In the OP / clearly said that they would be drawn from multiple sources.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:06 pm

@Doom ... no ... its says "This Game is a mish-mash of various HP Lovecraft works ....
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Two

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:09 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
1) You led the case when you said "Got you, vote ghostly".

It was primarily a reaction test. Yes, I was fishing. Deal with it.
Though Safari may have provided some form of input,

This "some sort of input" was that he got a night action result on you. If you missed that, then you are obviously skimming.

and some sort of a case (that I cant very much respond to because I am quite confused on what I am being accused of),

The BEST kind of case, one that comes from a mod PM

You provided the beginning suspision on me,

Not true, you have had suspicion on you since the joke stage.

and since you have had a strong say on everything the past days and seem to know quite a bit,

I pay attention and haven't led town astray yet.

your word is not taken lightly in this forum. Therefore any votes on me were a result of you initially throwing suspicion, and therefore, I am not skimming simply knowing where the supposed case started. Your lack of effort is noted.

Of course there were NO VOTES on you. If I take full responsibility for all the votes on you, I am still taking responsibility for nothing. So, there, I take responsibility. 100% of the zero votes on you were 100% my fault. (yes, the jak one popped in, but you were FP'ed on that one).

2) I picked on you too as well as all other humans that are 3rd party that could (or have) aligned themselves with someone,

True

or gotten taken in by the cult (which half of the people know about due to their role pm) that apparently know the most of anyone in this game.

Rodion addressed this. Why could cult recruit someone who is in the crosslines of every player, every day?

Everyone has blindly followed you

Including you, I might add.

and the others when any one of them could be lying and be batting for a different team by now,

Why would anyone use a 1-shot that controls whether or not they win the game (unless they are a noob like rishaed)?

just playing the part of safe little survivor. So actually, I did step up to the bigger challenge of an entire, unsteady, probably soon to crumble, faction which is the 3rd party role aligners.

Soon? Oh yea?

Your lack of effort is once again noted in the attempt to digest my big post.

Listen, calling the player who has possibly contributed the most all game "lack of effort" is just stupid.

3) Though it was posted on day 2, you did not put it into quotes making for an easily mistakened thought that you may have done some minor revising to it before you resposted it for no apparent reason.

I was just bringing it back to the front of the discussion and moved 2 people around. I didn't check every point on the list. For this, I am sorry. It's better than your list.


I dont know Doom. You tell me. You seemed to be sure when voting for me at first, but now you just seem to not want to put too much effort into proving my guilt that you so strongly think is present. Why else would you post just a couple words before voting?


Just to piss you off (it worked).

That's not actually the reason.

That would risk a PR, and we all know no one likes that.


Actually, I explicitly stated I don't care about PRs in this game. That's why I was willing to lynch both Sully and LSU with no claim.



DoomYoshi wrote:
1) You led the case when you said "Got you, vote ghostly".

It was primarily a reaction test. Yes, I was fishing. Deal with it.


Funny how the contradiction works for both sides.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby Rodion on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:31 pm

Hippo,

thehippo8 wrote:again I was trying to gather information and got my hand slapped for misreading some earlier posts.


I want to understand what you misread and how that misreading explains your apparently contradictory behaviour.

ghostly447 wrote:If the proof is valid, please dont lynch me yet as I have one last thing to say. In towns favor possibly.


Are you acknowledging the possibility that his proof on your fakeclaim is valid? Because that's pretty much confessing you fakeclaimed.

To make things clear, if someone had said they had proof my character was fake, I would never consider the possibility of him having valid proof that my character is fake, as I happen to know my own character is not.

You seem to be digging a deeper hole, but I do not want to rush anything before I hear from Hippo, Commander and Vodean.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:34 pm

Rodion wrote:Hippo,

thehippo8 wrote:again I was trying to gather information and got my hand slapped for misreading some earlier posts.


I want to understand what you misread and how that misreading explains your apparently contradictory behaviour.

ghostly447 wrote:If the proof is valid, please dont lynch me yet as I have one last thing to say. In towns favor possibly.


Are you acknowledging the possibility that his proof on your fakeclaim is valid? Because that's pretty much confessing you fakeclaimed.

To make things clear, if someone had said they had proof my character was fake, I would never consider the possibility of him having valid proof that my character is fake, as I happen to know my own character is not.

You seem to be digging a deeper hole, but I do not want to rush anything before I hear from Hippo, Commander and Vodean.


When I posted that I had given up. I did acknowledge he could have found my fake claim. I was just hoping that post would get covered up. Good play by a few in here. Seeya next game. But I will say I love how my "contradictions" (Some that actually werent) were fully seen in their light but no others were. But oh well. Good game and good luck to all this game.
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