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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:03 pm

Okay guys, I will say this once. IF anyone brings it up again, then I will go through and get tons of examples of other people doing it and not getting this much shit about it. I played the game. I insulted people. If I am the first instance of it in your mind, I will be more than pissed to go through other games, and even this one, and show you all that I am not the only one insulting people. If I am going to get shit for it, others should be treated equally and therefore get shit as well. Please do not label me as the only shit talker here. Because I know for a fact I am not the only one that insulted someone in the course of playing a game.

Rishaed, you dont know your WC yet. But I will be more than happy to tell you. Though unless you can kill someone at night, your only hope is gonna be if the lynch your targets.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby rishaed on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:05 pm

I'm pretty sure Vode said it loud and clear, sadly enough. I'm assuming that you are the equivalent to mafia in this game? What a great day.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Three

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:08 pm

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ghostly447 wrote:I am an Elder God, alone in my ventures as a survivor.
Bold Blue is my response to Vodean. Come on buddy, please read. I am a survivor, that is my alignment and my WC in...wait for it...To survive. :)

that is a lie. i dont know why you are lying, but your WC is to eliminate the elder gods AND outer gods. fp jak


He forgot that I also have to kill the Great Old Ones. Thats why I claimed one of the 3 I had to kill. haha
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby new guy1 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:15 pm

I will say that ghost had a right to be mad, as I too see that the case started with vodean's posting of his WC with nothing to back it up. Normally, I would have seen posts saying that they would wait for more information, wait for an explanation, anything, but here I did not. I will not say that he had the right to stoop down to the level of calling everyone nimrods, but I also can't say that people act as their normal selves when they are pissed off. I am glad that everyone saw the contradictions in his posts, but he did show where there was contradiction in doom's posts and such to show he was not the only one. Overall, I dislike how it played out, but I'm fine with the result, as it has effectively taken out the killing faction in the game.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:19 pm

Rolefishing =/= fishing.

Rolefishing is when I think you might have a role and I am trying to verify that OR when I am trying to figure out who a specific role is.

My type of fishing is when I call a random player scum, and then watch them flail and incriminate themselves. Ghostly, I am sure you can appreciate that these are related, but different concepts.

New guy: nothing to back it up????

There are a half dozen other players who realize that vodean has this ability. What the f*ck are you talking about? Also, there were the inherent contradictions in his own talk, not even considering vodean's evidence.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby new guy1 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:24 pm

Nothing to back what up? If you skimmed over ghostly's post showing where you said you "were rolefishing, deal with it" and then you sad you "werent role fishing", then you legitimately are skimming, and ghostly was right, because that was one long ass post.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby Commander9 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:32 pm

Jeez, guys, some of us have lives :lol:

Rodion wrote:Cool. So that means you have knowledge of 8 players (should be 9, but you targeted PCM twice). I'm anxious to see the new information you got.

Also, Yoshi, Hippo is not in Commander's faction.


Not completely accurate as there have been some failed possessions (kills take place before the possession, so we couldn't possess Strike Wolf tonight).

Rodion wrote:How do you know that, Vodean?


Pretty sure he used the same ability that you have ;)

Rodion wrote:I still want to hear more from Hippo and Commander (who apparently found someone else with a weird role), but at this point I find it hard to believe you'll make it to N4, Ghostly. Botching a roleclaim is a big deal to me and most people, and you've managed to do it twice (Elder God and town WC when you're claiming Great Old One and survivor).

Also, Jak's list is wrong. VS has claimed human and that is not on the list, Safari has claimed "town human", PCM is not a member of Commander's group and I've never said I was Yoshi-human.


RE: My previous post.

For now, we basically are not sure of the alignment due to some complications, so it has equal chances of being a power role for town or scum, so for now, while we have pretty clear people that are extremely suspicious (Ghostly, Hippo and Rishaed in that order), I would highly recommend going after them. Then again, I am quite impartial at who will be lynched and I'm concentrating on improving our chances of surviving to the maximum - getting rid of killing roles or any other dangerous factions and surviving. Basically, once the killing roles and other dangerous factions will be out, we'll be just fine with going with the flow as there's a lot of humans with unknown alignments and victory conditions and sorting that out will not be for us. We can confirm abilities, but not alignments.

I do find it curious how bad one can mess up when they start with one little lie and how one contradiction stems after the other.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:33 pm

new guy1"]Nothing to back what up? If you skimmed over ghostly's post showing where you said you "were rolefishing, deal with it" and then you sad you "werent role fishing", then you legitimately are skimming, and ghostly was right, because that was one long ass post.[/quote]

When did I say role fishing? I said fishing.

[quote="new guy1 wrote:
I will say that ghost had a right to be mad, as I too see that the case started with vodean's posting of his WC with nothing to back it up.



This is what I meant. He had something to back it up. There are half a dozen of us who know that we all have the power to reveal a win condition. It's already been discussed in the game too. I didn't skim ghostly's post. All he did was repost what I wrote. A case which he never bothered defending against.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby jak111 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:37 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Another contradiction. Nice one spiesr.


^ This is an obvious skimmer.

jak111 wrote:Fasposted twice. SO you contradict yourself.. One quote says Elder God other says Great Old One.. Get you claim right scum.

Fasposted by Rodion, I think we nailed him fake claiming.


Me and others have pointed out his changing of stories.

As far as your claim goes Ghostly, well, you seem to have admitted to being the enemy. So good game, though busting Rishaed like that with you isn't cool bud.

and for all the shit talking being talked about I'd like to think I'm keeping my cool in this game (well since it's an official game, I gotta act official) 8-) But deep down inside, I really wish to call people out on their fake claims >.< But I got my cool in check this game and that was a low blow Doom putting my name on that small list of people, I'd like to think I can be civil when I don't need to be blunt with people.

But Ghostly, if you pop Elder Thing, there's two things I must know 1.) Why gamethrow bud? You could have pulled off a fake claim like Elder God is different or something. 2.) ARE YOU THE MAFIA?

and my third question is to everyone. Is Elder God and Elder Thing the same thing???

Also, if Ghostly pops Elder Thing and they are indeed our enemy, Vodean earned some cred with this find.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:38 pm

Rodion wrote:
vodean wrote:actually, what makes more sense is that rishaed asked about me. that is what changes people's sanity, according to my role PM.


/ worded it ambiguously, but he already confirmed me the insanity applies to the asker.

Was the question you asked the 3rd out of a list of 5?


I got no N2 info from Yog-Sothoth that punished me with D3 insanity/PR.


I've never said I was Yoshi-human.


Rodion, these 3 posts don't work together. Either the first two statements are accurate, or the last one is, or you are part of Commander's faction.

Which is it?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:42 pm

jak111 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Another contradiction. Nice one spiesr.


^ This is an obvious skimmer.

jak111 wrote:Fasposted twice. SO you contradict yourself.. One quote says Elder God other says Great Old One.. Get you claim right scum.

Fasposted by Rodion, I think we nailed him fake claiming.


Me and others have pointed out his changing of stories.

and for all the shit talking being talked about I'd like to think I'm keeping my cool in this game (well since it's an official game, I gotta act official) 8-) But deep down inside, I really wish to call people out on their fake claims >.< But I got my cool in check this game and that was a low blow Doom putting my name on that small list of people, I'd like to think I can be civil when I don't need to be blunt with people.


That's not the contradiction I was talking about. I was the first one to point out that contradiction on Day 3. This is why you are on my short list. You don't pay attention.

The NEW contradiction I was talking about was:

spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:I am an Elder God, alone in my ventures as a survivor.
Also, doesn't the part about "alone" not make much sense when paired with all that stuff you said about your followers yesterday? You can't be alone and also a member of a faction like that, can you?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:43 pm

EBWOP:

me wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Nothing to back what up? If you skimmed over ghostly's post showing where you said you "were rolefishing, deal with it" and then you sad you "werent role fishing", then you legitimately are skimming, and ghostly was right, because that was one long ass post.


When did I say role fishing? I said fishing.

new guy1 wrote:I will say that ghost had a right to be mad, as I too see that the case started with vodean's posting of his WC with nothing to back it up.



This is what I meant. He had something to back it up. There are half a dozen of us who know that we all have the power to reveal a win condition. It's already been discussed in the game too. I didn't skim ghostly's post. All he did was repost what I wrote. A case which he never bothered defending against.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby pancakemix on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:44 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Rodion wrote:
vodean wrote:actually, what makes more sense is that rishaed asked about me. that is what changes people's sanity, according to my role PM.


/ worded it ambiguously, but he already confirmed me the insanity applies to the asker.

Was the question you asked the 3rd out of a list of 5?


I got no N2 info from Yog-Sothoth that punished me with D3 insanity/PR.


I've never said I was Yoshi-human.


Rodion, these 3 posts don't work together. Either the first two statements are accurate, or the last one is, or you are part of Commander's faction.

Which is it?


They can work together if he asks about a mechanic that wouldn't apply to him or doesn't use said mechanic.

He cannot be part of Commander's group because he was a captive mind.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:45 pm

Actually, rodion, scratch the second of 2 quotes. I missed the "no" part.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby jak111 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:47 pm

Either way, with Ghostly's contradictions I believe is what exposed him recently. Though that does not answer my question on the difference between Elder Gods and Elder Things.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:48 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Rodion wrote:
vodean wrote:actually, what makes more sense is that rishaed asked about me. that is what changes people's sanity, according to my role PM.


/ worded it ambiguously, but he already confirmed me the insanity applies to the asker.

Was the question you asked the 3rd out of a list of 5?
I got no N2 info from Yog-Sothoth that punished me with D3 insanity/PR.
I've never said I was Yoshi-human.
Rodion, these 3 posts don't work together. Either the first two statements are accurate, or the last one is, or you are part of Commander's faction.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:50 pm

jak111 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Another contradiction. Nice one spiesr.


^ This is an obvious skimmer.

jak111 wrote:Fasposted twice. SO you contradict yourself.. One quote says Elder God other says Great Old One.. Get you claim right scum.

Fasposted by Rodion, I think we nailed him fake claiming.


Me and others have pointed out his changing of stories.

As far as your claim goes Ghostly, well, you seem to have admitted to being the enemy. So good game, though busting Rishaed like that with you isn't cool bud.

and for all the shit talking being talked about I'd like to think I'm keeping my cool in this game (well since it's an official game, I gotta act official) 8-) But deep down inside, I really wish to call people out on their fake claims >.< But I got my cool in check this game and that was a low blow Doom putting my name on that small list of people, I'd like to think I can be civil when I don't need to be blunt with people.

But Ghostly, if you pop Elder Thing, there's two things I must know 1.) Why gamethrow bud? You could have pulled off a fake claim like Elder God is different or something. 2.) ARE YOU THE MAFIA?

and my third question is to everyone. Is Elder God and Elder Thing the same thing???

Also, if Ghostly pops Elder Thing and they are indeed our enemy, Vodean earned some cred with this find.


Just because he is the same alignment, doesnt mean he is with me. I did not receive a notification telling me he is with me, therefore he is not. He only shares my WC. So though he could have still won, it would not be a victory for me. So me ratting on him was simply doing a good deed. The fact you think I busted him only shows the ignorance I have been complaining about this whole time, because it only shows that you seem to have forgotten all about him.

Lol at you asking for more info.
1) I know I could have pulled it off. But lets face it, I was complaining about ignorance and basically quit. They wouldnt believe me.
2) I wont answer.
3) I have no idea honestly. I am guessing they are not since..well, I will let you go back and read.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby new guy1 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:50 pm

jak111 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Another contradiction. Nice one spiesr.


^ This is an obvious skimmer.

jak111 wrote:Fasposted twice. SO you contradict yourself.. One quote says Elder God other says Great Old One.. Get you claim right scum.

Fasposted by Rodion, I think we nailed him fake claiming.


Me and others have pointed out his changing of stories.

As far as your claim goes Ghostly, well, you seem to have admitted to being the enemy. So good game, though busting Rishaed like that with you isn't cool bud.

and for all the shit talking being talked about I'd like to think I'm keeping my cool in this game (well since it's an official game, I gotta act official) 8-) But deep down inside, I really wish to call people out on their fake claims >.< But I got my cool in check this game and that was a low blow Doom putting my name on that small list of people, I'd like to think I can be civil when I don't need to be blunt with people.

But Ghostly, if you pop Elder Thing, there's two things I must know 1.) Why gamethrow bud? You could have pulled off a fake claim like Elder God is different or something. 2.) ARE YOU THE MAFIA?

and my third question is to everyone. Is Elder God and Elder Thing the same thing???

Also, if Ghostly pops Elder Thing and they are indeed our enemy, Vodean earned some cred with this find.


Jak, ghostly has no affiliation with Rishaed. Rishaed needed to complete ghostly's WC to win. Ghostly did not need Rishaed, so while it is harsh, its not too much to worry about to him. He didnt throw the game, he realized he was in a hole too deep and gave up the chase. He is a killing faction and considering there hasnt been anyone different killing (as far as scenes go for listing the confirmed killers), and Elder Gods and Elder Things are not the same. They fight each other from what I understand.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby rishaed on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:51 pm

So are you similar in the Semi-Joat role? If not I'm wondering what exactly the distinction is. WC? maybe? Is one strictly town and the other Survivors?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby thechuck51 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Wow, this is a lot to process.

I have replaced sully and I want to confirm that I am a normal human.

Seems pretty clear to me that ghostly is not town. he has essentially admitted it.

vote ghostly

fastposted a bunch

my guess is that an elder god is an elder thing but an elder thing isn't necessarily and elder god. kinda like how a square is a rhombus but a rhombus isnt a square

fastposted again

spiesr, when you say your role is not "human", do you mean you are not a human or is there an adjective to describe what type of human you are?

jesus christ i've been fastposted again. could you guys slow down and give a brother a chance to catch up?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:22 pm

@ Rodion (and anyone else interested) ... where I made an error is here.

I voted Nendreel here.

I unvoted here.

It was Betico that said I had claimed human here and I let that ride - perhaps I should not have.

But what I said was that I didn't believe Nendreel based on my PM. The issue has come up time and again - and that relates to powers. I visited Nendreel (as I did pancakemix) and the PM result I got on Nendreel was inconsistent with what he said. But that's enough about that for today!
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby Rodion on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:30 pm

spiesr wrote:I have a role other than "Human" but still have the (same?) ability to ask questions of Yog-Shoggoth. It is not exclusive to "Human"s.


This, meaning you cannot draw early conclusions about my full role.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:01 pm

Vote Ghostly

Pretty straight forward really. He has admitted to lying regardless of why he choose to lie.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby new guy1 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:04 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Vote Ghostly

Pretty straight forward really. He has admitted to lying regardless of why he choose to lie.


... He admitted to being an Elder Thing, which unless they are a group of vigs, are at least a 3rd party killing faction, which cant be that great.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia; Day Four

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:25 pm

Rodion wrote:I still want to hear more from Hippo and Commander (who apparently found someone else with a weird role), but at this point I find it hard to believe you'll make it to N4, Ghostly. Botching a roleclaim is a big deal to me and most people, and you've managed to do it twice (Elder God and town WC when you're claiming Great Old One and survivor).

Also, Jak's list is wrong. VS has claimed human and that is not on the list, Safari has claimed "town human", PCM is not a member of Commander's group and I've never said I was Yoshi-human.


you asked vodean which of the 5 questions he asked yog when you couldn't possibly know about that. I'd be really surprised if you are not, unless you are yog himself.
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