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10 Day Day
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1 Week Deadline after conversation dies down
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Total votes : 20

Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:38 pm

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new guy1 wrote:Well, give me the player you think is scum, and since Im not going for your case, I will put my vote on them. That way, if town decides to lynch you, no harm no foul. If we decide we will pursue him, it's one less vote that you must gather to turn it around.


IB. He is really the one person I didn't expect to get on the wagon. I can't legitimately tell you to hang him for a pure gut instinct, but if I had a inv/block/other toys I personally would be inclined to it on him tonight.


LOL an OMGYS vote via proxy. I put pressure on you for the simple reason of how you played Vodian and Betiko. What I am about to say is not personal but I have always hated the elitist attitude of certain players who seem to think that it is OK to sacrifice other players because they deem their play is not on par with those who have more experience. They are not good enough to sit at the cool table so they are most expendable.

Your reasoning was if there must be a random lynch then lets lynch them. You even top it off by stating "better them then me" as you choose to create your own luck. You also seemed to have indicated that the joke votes were some how a reasonable reason to lynch, which makes no sense.

You more then anyone must recognize that those who joke voted and then did not remove their votes while Vodian dangled in the wind on the way to a lynch was perhaps the biggest red flag to date. The reason I voted you is that you didn't Vote for your own case.

Here is the kicker I have no idea weather your a bad guy or not. You have however seemed to have given study to jgordon1111, which i find amusing. Its the f*ck you, screw you guy,s I'm not claiming because I refuse to play by your rules.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:00 am

Unvote vote Gregwolf

I was trying to make a point and get a claim from Edoc as there really has not been leads.

However After my above post I saw that Gregwolf has not posted or contributed anything. If I had to choose between Edocsil and Gregwolf to lynch I would choose Gregwolf.

If you wish to save Edoc then vote Gregwolf. If it comes down to random lynching, which in essence is what day one has been about then lynch the inactive.

I would suggest Vodean and Betiko remove their vote on Edoc.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby soundman on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:29 am

new guy1 wrote:
soundman wrote:Unvote. Well no one has done anything suspicious yet so that leaves us with a random lynch. It's looking like Vodean is going to be the target at this point. I say if he has an important role then he should claim.


Well if you want to do a random lynch, then why dont you look at Edocsil's alternative? He posted right above you suggesting vodean/betiko and you seem to be settled for just random lynching vodean. Since from past experience vodean wont claim and will likely take the lynch, I would rather look into betiko because if we discover he is a PR or something then we can always gather enough pressure to lynch vodean in the end. This is a relatively silent game, so I guess it needs to start somewhere, vote soundman for being content with a random lynch.

Really? Did you even read what I said? Have you read the rules? We don't have a choice, we HAVE TO random lynch today. Why? Because the mod won't allow a no lynch! At the time of the above post we had no Night Actions (duh, it's Day 1), no scum tells and a fast approaching deadline. Vodean had the most votes so logically we should just get a claim from him since he's as good as anyone else.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby vodean on Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:53 am

Iron Butterfly wrote: Unvote vote Gregwolf

I was trying to make a point and get a claim from Edoc as there really has not been leads.

However After my above post I saw that Gregwolf has not posted or contributed anything. If I had to choose between Edocsil and Gregwolf to lynch I would choose Gregwolf.

If you wish to save Edoc then vote Gregwolf. If it comes down to random lynching, which in essence is what day one has been about then lynch the inactive.

I would suggest Vodean and Betiko remove their vote on Edoc.

any reason everyone is just following whatever edoc says and defending him? i feel like edoc basically just said "f*ck you all" and we were like "yup, f*ck us hard". edoc has not presented any form of adequate defense, and his claim had premises that i disagree with, and conclusions which i dont believe. i really dont know what the hel new guy is doing, but he needs to stop.
and soundman there is a difference between a random lynch and a D1 lynch. thats what cases are for.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:09 am

vodean wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote: Unvote vote Gregwolf

I was trying to make a point and get a claim from Edoc as there really has not been leads.

However After my above post I saw that Gregwolf has not posted or contributed anything. If I had to choose between Edocsil and Gregwolf to lynch I would choose Gregwolf.

If you wish to save Edoc then vote Gregwolf. If it comes down to random lynching, which in essence is what day one has been about then lynch the inactive.

I would suggest Vodean and Betiko remove their vote on Edoc.

any reason everyone is just following whatever edoc says and defending him? i feel like edoc basically just said "f*ck you all" and we were like "yup, f*ck us hard". edoc has not presented any form of adequate defense, and his claim had premises that i disagree with, and conclusions which i dont believe. i really dont know what the hel new guy is doing, but he needs to stop.
and soundman there is a difference between a random lynch and a D1 lynch. thats what cases are for.


Its your vote and Edocsil made his own bed.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby new guy1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:37 am

Hey vodean. If you read, I'm only voting so that if we decide the case on edocsil is not a good one then we can turn the wagon to someone whom he believes to be scummy.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby edocsil on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:43 am

f*ck. I had a huge post, but now I'm out of time and the internet just ate it.

Vode, I've defended myself well, don't use claims and night actions as a crutch please.

IB, I was wrong. You are within your meta. I did also tell NG not to follow it, but w/e.

Lastly, my vode/bet stuff is getting no traction I will be travelling untill past deadline today so I will Unvote Vote Greg. Obv reasons are obv, I've got class in 10 min and gota run~!
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby betiko on Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:54 am

hum, I got to say I don't really know where to go right now.
Basically edoc is softclaiming an important PR, and all his defense could be wifom... Eather we proceed or go for scumariners which is also an option, greg seems to be the less active but it's his meta as well, like soundman, they both usually post the least. I'll wait a little more, if greg pops in and claims something that makes sense i'd rather lynch edoc who didn't want to do it. If greg says nothing and we're close to deadline i will switch my vote to him.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby jonty125 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:38 am

betiko wrote:hum, I got to say I don't really know where to go right now.
Basically edoc is softclaiming an important PR, and all his defense could be wifom.


I'm not happy with edoc not claiming and I hope he isn't scum pulling the wool over our eyes but this
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby vodean on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:41 am

edocsil wrote:
Vode, I've defended myself well, don't use claims and night actions as a crutch please.

that does not apply since it is D1... and you are just quoting saf from another game. so completely irrelevant and invalid. you are saying you are an important PR, and for some reason there are plenty of cases for D1, so i will move on. i wont change my vote yet, but i will as soon as i see something else.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:49 am

Sorry guys I was busy scummarining..

jonty125 wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:Honestly I am at a toss up. I do think edoc has made far better rebuddles than betiko has, but I don't think I want to place a vote yet.. IB was right. your vote means more in this game than in others.


Well through not voting, you are supporting a lynch on edoc.


How's that? By not voting im letting you all decide because I haven't been convinced to vote. If town finds edoc to be scummiest, then I'll let whoever seems to be convinced he is scum do the talking, not me. I am not going to be thrown under fire for someone I dont know is scum or not if he flips town.

By not voting it shows I dont know who to lynch yet. calm down and let me think about the available cases.

back2scummarining.. :roll: lol
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby jonty125 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:11 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Vote Count


vodean (1) - edoc
edoc (5) - betiko, Iron Butterfly, vodean, ghostly, anon. L-2
soundman (1) - new guy1
soundman (1) - Nendreel
betiko (1) - jonty125

Not Voting - , NoSurvivors, gregwolf121, Kanin, pancakemix, soundman

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch (or a majority at deadline).
Deadline is Tomorrow!

5 players without a vote.
This means 10 players agree to have edocsil lynched on Thursday.


NoSurvivors wrote:By not voting it shows I dont know who to lynch yet.


Well in a manner of speaking you are if you look at the VC.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:40 pm

Vote Count


vodean (2) - edoc, Iron Butterfly
edoc (3) - betiko, vodean, anon. L-4
Iron Butterfly (1) - new guy1
soundman (1) - Nendreel
betiko (1) - jonty125
NoSurvivors (1) - ghostly

Not Voting - , NoSurvivors, gregwolf121, Kanin, pancakemix, soundman

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch (or a majority at deadline).
Deadline is Tonight at Midnight (EST).

5 players without a vote.
This means 8 players agree to have edocsil lynched tonight.

@ghost: I'm not going to extend it because a) only 1 player requested it, if there was overwhelming support, I might change my mind b) the request was to give edoc a chance to claim. It doesn't seem he will so the reasoning is invalid c)extensions should only be requested by replacements to give more catch-up time d)with 5 days taking less than a page, i don't feel sorry for town not having enough time.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:40 pm

Also, it is currently 2:40 in EST, so you can figure out how much time you have in your own time zone.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby edocsil on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:44 pm

Why do both votes vs greg not count?
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:47 pm

edocsil wrote:Why do both votes vs greg not count?


Sorry, forgot to change the name over.

DoomYoshi wrote:Vote Count


gregwolf121 (2) - edoc, Iron Butterfly
edoc (3) - betiko, vodean, anon. L-4
Iron Butterfly (1) - new guy1
soundman (1) - Nendreel
betiko (1) - jonty125
NoSurvivors (1) - ghostly

Not Voting - , NoSurvivors, gregwolf121, Kanin, pancakemix, soundman

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch (or a majority at deadline).
Deadline is Tonight at Midnight (EST).

5 players without a vote.
This means 8 players agree to have edocsil lynched tonight.

@ghost: I'm not going to extend it because a) only 1 player requested it, if there was overwhelming support, I might change my mind b) the request was to give edoc a chance to claim. It doesn't seem he will so the reasoning is invalid c)extensions should only be requested by replacements to give more catch-up time d)with 5 days taking less than a page, i don't feel sorry for town not having enough time.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby gregwolf121 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:02 pm

yeah i probably should have posted more, but i didn't have anything to add, i beleive what i came up with was the same as what everyone else did, edoc seems scummy for suggesting that we lynch vod or betiko because they usually say something and we end up lynching them anyway, and ppl got upset at the suggestion, a few other things that ill keep my eye on because they arn't scummy enough to warrant a vote yet, time will tell
so yes im active just not posting
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby jonty125 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:42 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:so yes im active just not posting


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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:14 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:yeah i probably should have posted more, but i didn't have anything to add, i beleive what i came up with was the same as what everyone else did, edoc seems scummy for suggesting that we lynch vod or betiko because they usually say something and we end up lynching them anyway, and ppl got upset at the suggestion, a few other things that ill keep my eye on because they arn't scummy enough to warrant a vote yet, time will tell
so yes im active just not posting


Thanks for such an insightful post. You said nothing and until called out where happy to lay low.

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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:56 pm

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NoSurvivors wrote:By not voting it shows I dont know who to lynch yet.


Well in a manner of speaking you are if you look at the VC.


Lol so you're claiming for me? You're too funny xD
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby ghostly447 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:28 pm

NoSurvivors wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:By not voting it shows I dont know who to lynch yet.


Well in a manner of speaking you are if you look at the VC.


Lol so you're claiming for me? You're too funny xD


Hes posting to show that without voting for someone you are technically killing the player with the most votes. If you dont vote, your vote goes on the person with the most..

Vote Greg. Frankly, not adding anything doesnt get us anywhere. As was said before, you did not add anything, and you seemed to be content with staying completely silent until called out. Better to lynch one not posting rather than lynch an active participant (edoc).
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby new guy1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:29 pm

Ill move my vote to gregwolf, as he hasnt added anything and I would rather give edoc a 50% in exchange for an inactive player. Unvote, vote gregwolf

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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby gregwolf121 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:07 pm

well so im a bad guy for not adding anything well its day one theres not much to add. and like i said ive only spotted a few small things none of which are enough to make a case or to even warrant mention as of now,
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby new guy1 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:11 pm

Does this mean you are in the same boat as edocsil, not giving information? I understand that theres not alot on you, but what do you expect day one cases to be made of? The scummiest thing that we can catch anyone on is either somewhere where the scum slips or inactivity.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [13/13] Day One

Postby ghostly447 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:12 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:well so im a bad guy for not adding anything well its day one theres not much to add. and like i said ive only spotted a few small things none of which are enough to make a case or to even warrant mention as of now,


Correct. Not much to add day 1. But because of that, you need to be active in participation.
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