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Day Deadlines?

1 Week Day
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2 Week Day
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10 Day Day
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1 Week Deadline after conversation dies down
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Total votes : 20

Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:57 am

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Not voting (12)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is November 25th.

With 12 not voting, this means that 12 players agree to a random lynch.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:59 am

betiko wrote:why aren't you giving the vote count this time doom?


Accelerated start is only for day 1.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby Nendreel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:30 am

betiko wrote:
Nendreel wrote:It looks like what happens is when someone dies we go the the phase after their death. GW was Night 5, so we warp to Day 6 when he died.
I don't think we're actually at LYLO, it's just a name since Day 6 in this small a game would most likely be a LYLO situation and Doom seems to want to give appropriate names for his phases.

Unfortunately with no night phase it's pretty much Day 1 all over again.


seems legit, i like that theory. Although it would mean that if we misslynche we get 2 nights back to back?


It wouldn't neccessarily be tied to a mislynch, just what role that person has. If we lynch a Day we go into Night, depending on who dies during that Night determines what phase we go into next. As we see, we lynch a Night and we got into another Day phase.


betiko wrote:Pretty much day 1 all over again no, since we lost no townie at night and we killed a scum during the day phase. Are you going to complain about it?


That seems a strange interpretation of what I said. With no night phase we don't have any reports to work off of, so once again our scumhunting efforts will pretty much be a crapshoot. I doubt we'll be so lucky to catch another one scummarining.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby jonty125 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:10 pm

betiko wrote:
jonty125 wrote:The no night thing is going to get confusing.

betiko wrote:my question about the day name is regarding the votes, do you think we might become double voter when it's our day?
vodean, are you day 1?


How have you got vode as the double voter?? It could easily be IB or ghostly



do you even understand my question to vodean? I was wondering if something special happens when it's your day such as double voting. Since I'm not day 1 and vodean was the last one left with a vote on edoc except for the anonymous vote, I'm asking him if he is day 1.
Anyway now that I think about it it would be way too unballanced and people could prove too easily they are town if it worked.


Yes, I thought your logic of vode been D1 was that he had been given a double vote and his name was next to the anon. vote on the VC.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby betiko on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:21 pm

Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote:
Nendreel wrote:It looks like what happens is when someone dies we go the the phase after their death. GW was Night 5, so we warp to Day 6 when he died.
I don't think we're actually at LYLO, it's just a name since Day 6 in this small a game would most likely be a LYLO situation and Doom seems to want to give appropriate names for his phases.

Unfortunately with no night phase it's pretty much Day 1 all over again.


seems legit, i like that theory. Although it would mean that if we misslynche we get 2 nights back to back?


It wouldn't neccessarily be tied to a mislynch, just what role that person has. If we lynch a Day we go into Night, depending on who dies during that Night determines what phase we go into next. As we see, we lynch a Night and we got into another Day phase.


betiko wrote:Pretty much day 1 all over again no, since we lost no townie at night and we killed a scum during the day phase. Are you going to complain about it?


That seems a strange interpretation of what I said. With no night phase we don't have any reports to work off of, so once again our scumhunting efforts will pretty much be a crapshoot. I doubt we'll be so lucky to catch another one scummarining.



you're not considering my theory: town=day scum=night according to me. So hitting days back to back is the best thing that can happen to us if it's the case. we don't get any reports anyway on a day 2 unless we pressure the wrong person or unless we have the power ourselves.
We can still look at day 1 a lot differently.
We know that gregwolf could disable votes I guess wewould've noticed it but i'd like t recheck, also whe know that for some reason someone votes anonymously either through double voting, or more probably sending PMs to doom. Maybe that voter was one of the officially "not voting" guys?...
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby Nendreel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:36 pm

betiko wrote: you're not considering my theory: town=day scum=night according to me. So hitting days back to back is the best thing that can happen to us if it's the case. we don't get any reports anyway on a day 2 unless we pressure the wrong person or unless we have the power ourselves.
We can still look at day 1 a lot differently.
We know that gregwolf could disable votes I guess wewould've noticed it but i'd like t recheck, also whe know that for some reason someone votes anonymously either through double voting, or more probably sending PMs to doom. Maybe that voter was one of the officially "not voting" guys?...


day=town, night=scum wouldn't work too well. If we ever mislynched that would pretty much be an auto-win for scum. I'm quite sure that town and scum are made up of night and day roles.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby Kanin Usagi on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:48 pm

Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote: you're not considering my theory: town=day scum=night according to me. So hitting days back to back is the best thing that can happen to us if it's the case. we don't get any reports anyway on a day 2 unless we pressure the wrong person or unless we have the power ourselves.
We can still look at day 1 a lot differently.
We know that gregwolf could disable votes I guess wewould've noticed it but i'd like t recheck, also whe know that for some reason someone votes anonymously either through double voting, or more probably sending PMs to doom. Maybe that voter was one of the officially "not voting" guys?...


day=town, night=scum wouldn't work too well. If we ever mislynched that would pretty much be an auto-win for scum. I'm quite sure that town and scum are made up of night and day roles.

Yes, but now that one mafia has turned up as night, no one will be willing to say that they are a night for fear of being lumped in with mafia and lynched. Or, maybe more precisely, if someone claimed to be night, they'd be a good case for us to look at.

I'm a day, if anyone is curious.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:27 pm

For the sake of balance you can only have so many mafia. perhaps there may even be a third party.

On the surface it seems that because Gregwulf was Night 5 mafia the game mechanics put us in day 6. If we miss lynch and go into night I do not believe that we would have an endless night/back to back nights. First mafia knows each other so whomever they target it would most likely be a day, unless we have a third faction/party in game.

The point is I do not believe the day night cycle is determined by who we kill. Could I be wrong about that? Sure but the numbers don't add up.

I do strongly suspect that the primary focus of the game will be in the day and that it revolves around vote manipulation.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby jonty125 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:50 pm

Kanin Usagi wrote:Yes, but now that one mafia has turned up as night, no one will be willing to say that they are a night for fear of being lumped in with mafia and lynched. Or, maybe more precisely, if someone claimed to be night, they'd be a good case for us to look at.

I'm a day, if anyone is curious.


Well if you're a town night, then fakenaming is not going to help the credibility of your claim is it? And like others have pointed out it would been unbalanced if only mafia were nights.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby pancakemix on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:01 pm

It's probably unwise to be character claiming. If it's known that you're a day, then you've either just painted a target on yourself or you're WIFOMing, which is a scum game. Either way, totally useless and highly dangerous.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby vodean on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:12 pm

I am D1. therefore i support the theory that on your day you get to double-vote. i also disagree that only mafia are nights. think about it. if we mislynch, then the mafia kill a townie (day), moving us into another night phase where the mafia kill another day. and so on and so forth. that would only be survivable if town was seriously OP, or if there were a large number of competing scum factions, which would screw town over. so there must be night-townies.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby new guy1 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:26 pm

I feel like there are some townies with night roles, just a gut feeling. Vodean is soft claiming he had the double vote yesterday, so that means whoever has day six must also have a double vote (going by that logic). I dont believe there are multiple mafia factions as then town would just have the shit end of the stick and plus if that were true then when each of the mafia killed someone there would be multiple days killed and therefore doom would have to pick between the days and stuff. FOS Kanin for the WIFOM.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby ghostly447 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:31 pm

Okay, well with no night we arent at a complete loss. At least mafia didnt get a kill..

I will say though that I am assuming the title is LYLO due to if it were actually Day 6, there would be a VERY strong chance that it was lylo in a real game (with an average of 1 kill a day, 1 kill a night and averaged in, a NL and a blocked kill, however you wanna figure the math).

I am going to say that there wont be 2 factions of mafia. I can say this with 90% certainty becuase if there were, the town would only have PR's and I will go ahead and say I am not a very useful role, so the odds of town being torn to shreads by 2 factions is minimal.

One more thing I will throw out there is that since there was no night, there may be a kill during the day. It woudlnt surprise me in the least.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:49 pm

vodean wrote:I am D1. therefore i support the theory that on your day you get to double-vote. i also disagree that only mafia are nights. think about it. if we mislynch, then the mafia kill a townie (day), moving us into another night phase where the mafia kill another day. and so on and so forth. that would only be survivable if town was seriously OP, or if there were a large number of competing scum factions, which would screw town over. so there must be night-townies.


So you were the anon on Edocsil?
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Six: LYLO?

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