MoB Deadly wrote:I was roleblocked Night 1. There is definitely a mafia roleblocker.
Iron Butterfly wrote:....Or MoB is lying. Gosh ya think that could be an option??
MoB Deadly wrote:Mets are u kidding me?MoB Deadly wrote:I was roleblocked Night 1. There is definitely a mafia roleblocker.
MoB Deadly wrote:If IB is the gift stealer, then Betko or Mets is most likely Mafia Roleblocker, and animaniacs is clear.
If IB is NOT gift stealer, then Betiko, Mets, and animaniacs are on the list to be a gift stealer. With emphasis on animaniacs.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
anamainiacks wrote:Sorry, I've been really busy!
Well in the light of PCM's post about switching factions not being possible, unvote.
Could I ask betiko though, why do you still insist on voting for Mets?
pancakemix wrote:Betiko has apologized for his outburst, so I don't think anything further chastising is necessary. I will say there's no need to discuss egos or nationalities or anything of the like, so please keep it clean from here on. It's just a game.
Metsfanmax wrote:betiko wrote:oh and vote mets this has lasted long enough. lynch me first if you want but just lynch him next once you see I've been saying the truth all along, can't believe I've caught him on his first post and no one is ever following my lead. 1 town for 1 scum, I'll take it.
Seriously? We have a cop saying that he landed a mafia member with his investigation, and you want to vote me? I think you're scum for sure but even I know that I'd rather go with hard evidence (even on the off chance that this (temporary) insanity theory is correct) than conjecture.
betiko wrote:PCM has just confirmed that you can change a player s faction there. I bet you we have 3 scums again so 5-1-3 and this could be lylo right now. Gustaf has turned scum.
betiko wrote:And I think we should not trust anymore gustaf's results.
betiko wrote: Remember this: we are at lylo most probably with a mafia that recruited gustaf.
MoB Deadly wrote:Betiko (off the top of my head)
Why I think he is scum:
1. N1 claims to give me a present, zero reason it should not have gotten to me.
2. No confirmed actions at this point.
3. the chuck saved Betiko from impending lynch.
4. Mets voted for thechuck before Betiko did
5. Betiko used reasoning to say that it was impossible for thechuck to be a role cop AND betiko mafia at the same time. (Which is false)
Little Witt wrote:Honestly now that PCM confirmed that a player can not change sides and that Gustaf told us he found a mafia, I find it much more believeable and in towns favor to lynch IB. If IB filps town by some weird reason than either 1. Gustaf got bussed. 2. Gustaf is lying and is really mafia but trying to get a town lynched. I doubt 2. but it is still there.
And Betiko your posts seem to be intentionally misleading and slowing this game way down and allowing a possible mafia a chance to escape and lynch. Your roll seems town, but your posts seem too scummy in a way if any of you know what I mean.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
-the biggest being the chuck claim.
Chuck has saved me from a lynch, with a direct benefit of appearing town, at least to me. As you guys are not in my shoes and are unsure of my faction, I know this argument won't mean much, but here is the rest of my reasoning. After gaining such credit in my eyes for saving me on day 3, he gave his reason by telling he was a diviner and that he had checked me out and I was telling the truth. More brownie points for him. Then, he cleared also edoc (who, as I had already said was completely cleared for me) so even more brownie points. What seems like the most logical move in that case after gaining so many brownie points? give some slack to a scummate. So he gives met's rolename. His game was to give enough evidence that he was telling the truth, so I think that if I were scum I would have used that to missguide town on something. I am not sure scum were fully prepared for a massclaim on day 4, and chuck telling 100% the truth would be a wifom masterplay.
Also, the night he supposedly checked mets out he was in fact performing the NK. So when would chuck perform the diviner check?
N4, they are down to 2 scums; no gift stealing, no NK and a roleblock (me). Of course there is a chance that met's story is true. They didn't roleblock gustaf because they were going to kill him. But with a doc around, is that wise? Mets was going to doc witt or gustaf for sure if what he says is true, so did they really go for a 50% odds of success knowing how bad it would look if they failed and gustaf came in with a result? The gift stealer had most likely 4+ presents last night; 2+ for sure. If they didn't perform a successfull NK I still think it's because they used a gift action (normal or christmas magic) and the roleblock, and that if they blocked me rather than gustaf, it's because they were almost sure gustaf would've investigated me and came up with a guilty result. This would've got me lynched and most likely gustaf lynched on day 6.
Also, if we buy your theory above that chuck was a killer, maybe by lynching him the mafia no longer have an NK ability. *shrug*
betiko wrote:no mets; as there has been 2 mafia killers; the abominable snow monster and the winter warlock. this is not looking too deep in the scenes, these are actual facts we got from scenes. PCM is'nt writing random character names, he's writting down which character killed which character.
metsfanmax wrote:What's more likely: that I just doc'ed the right person and mafia made an arguably bad move (or didn't even send in a move), or that they came up with an incredibly complicated scenario to incorrectly convince people that Gustaf was insane, for the sake of earning a single lynch that they could have just used their NK to do?
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
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