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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby aage on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:38 pm

thehippo8 wrote:I think we have enough information now. I tracked Aage and the message is that Aage tried to visit someone but was stopped from doing so (I am paraphrasing as I cannot fully quote my night PM). And yes, I never said I was watcher. The question is why is Aage so interested in Jonty? I suspect that Aage has some info on jonty and/or Clever. I am wondering whether Aage has lied for a reason or not. Is he trying to tell us something important or does the old adage of lynching all liars fit here? I am unsure which direction to go so we need to discuss this more before we vote.

I haven't not told you anything relevant to today's lynch. I simply distrust a role that affects the vote count.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby jonty125 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:09 pm

aage wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:I think we have enough information now. I tracked Aage and the message is that Aage tried to visit someone but was stopped from doing so (I am paraphrasing as I cannot fully quote my night PM). And yes, I never said I was watcher. The question is why is Aage so interested in Jonty? I suspect that Aage has some info on jonty and/or Clever. I am wondering whether Aage has lied for a reason or not. Is he trying to tell us something important or does the old adage of lynching all liars fit here? I am unsure which direction to go so we need to discuss this more before we vote.

I haven't not told you anything relevant to today's lynch. I simply distrust a role that affects the vote count.



Would now be a good time to be sarcy and say all roles affect the vote count.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby aage on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:13 pm

jonty125 wrote:
aage wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:I think we have enough information now. I tracked Aage and the message is that Aage tried to visit someone but was stopped from doing so (I am paraphrasing as I cannot fully quote my night PM). And yes, I never said I was watcher. The question is why is Aage so interested in Jonty? I suspect that Aage has some info on jonty and/or Clever. I am wondering whether Aage has lied for a reason or not. Is he trying to tell us something important or does the old adage of lynching all liars fit here? I am unsure which direction to go so we need to discuss this more before we vote.

I haven't not told you anything relevant to today's lynch. I simply distrust a role that affects the vote count.



Would now be a good time to be sarcy and say all roles affect the vote count.

I appreciate the cynicism, but I still stand by my point.

That being said, I will vote s7c for distracting the town and scumarining in general, and I will also remark to Hippo that I may have been blocked from doing something last night, but there still was a night kill. Therefore I am less likely to be mafia. (I just realised this, sorry for not mentioning it earlier)
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby pancakemix on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:39 pm

aage wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
aage wrote:
aage wrote:Last night I was too preoccupied to answer, as I was wondering why someone would claim Watcher and Tracker on the same day. Is this a strategy to lure me into giving something away? If so, nice.
I didn't visit Jonty as far as I'm aware.

Also unvote, watcher and tracker is less suspicious.


What do you mean it's less suspicious that he had two actions in a night? It doesn't make any sense.

Vote Hippo

Hippo is a tracker, not a watcher. He lied about visiting Jonty; he tracked me. To Jonty. Otherwise he would have never said that.


So lying makes it better? Am I missing something here?

Nendreel wrote:And again with Jonty. Is anyone else getting a "He doth protest too much" vibe?


Again, I feel lynching him is unsafe. If we think he's a threat, he should be dealt with at night.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby Nendreel on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:53 pm

pancakemix wrote:
Nendreel wrote:And again with Jonty. Is anyone else getting a "He doth protest too much" vibe?


Again, I feel lynching him is unsafe. If we think he's a threat, he should be dealt with at night.


Agreed, but that part was about aage. He keeps bringing up Jonty, and I find the "I didn't visit Jonty, but Hippo tracked me to Jonty" bit particularily curious. Especially since Hippo never said anything remotely like that.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:12 pm

aage wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
aage wrote:
aage wrote:Last night I was too preoccupied to answer, as I was wondering why someone would claim Watcher and Tracker on the same day. Is this a strategy to lure me into giving something away? If so, nice.
I didn't visit Jonty as far as I'm aware.

Also unvote, watcher and tracker is less suspicious.


What do you mean it's less suspicious that he had two actions in a night? It doesn't make any sense.

Vote Hippo

Hippo is a tracker, not a watcher. He lied about visiting Jonty; he tracked me. To Jonty. Otherwise he would have never said that.


Something isn't adding up.

Aage says: First, he says he did not visit Jonty, then he says Hippo tracked Aage to Jonty, then he says he was blocked?
Hippo says: Hippo tracked Aage, but that Aage didn't go anywhere.

It seems like Aage's story is changing to fit in with what Hippo is reporting.

Aage, you're not making sense...vote Aage
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby aage on Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:31 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
aage wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
aage wrote:
aage wrote:Last night I was too preoccupied to answer, as I was wondering why someone would claim Watcher and Tracker on the same day. Is this a strategy to lure me into giving something away? If so, nice.
I didn't visit Jonty as far as I'm aware.

Also unvote, watcher and tracker is less suspicious.


What do you mean it's less suspicious that he had two actions in a night? It doesn't make any sense.

Vote Hippo

Hippo is a tracker, not a watcher. He lied about visiting Jonty; he tracked me. To Jonty. Otherwise he would have never said that.


Something isn't adding up.

Aage says: First, he says he did not visit Jonty, then he says Hippo tracked Aage to Jonty, then he says he was blocked?
Hippo says: Hippo tracked Aage, but that Aage didn't go anywhere.

It seems like Aage's story is changing to fit in with what Hippo is reporting.

Aage, you're not making sense...vote Aage

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Hippo's formulation of his original claim (being a watcher) led me to suspect he thought I visited Jonty. Which didn't happen, we all know that now. Then he claimed to be a tracker, and that he saw me get blocked (which is odd for a tracker, but I'm not familiar with the mod).

Lying is good because he was trying to make me slip up about visiting someone. Therefore Hippo is likely town, imo.

FYI, I was never told I was blocked by rishaed. Hippo's information is new to me, but fits with what happened last night.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby Nendreel on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:58 am

aage wrote:Hippo's formulation of his original claim (being a watcher) led me to suspect he thought I visited Jonty. Which didn't happen, we all know that now. Then he claimed to be a tracker, and that he saw me get blocked (which is odd for a tracker, but I'm not familiar with the mod).

FYI, I was never told I was blocked by rishaed. Hippo's information is new to me, but fits with what happened last night.


Why would Hippo think you visited Jonty? If, as you said, you didn't visit Jonty then Hippo wouldn't have gotten such a result. It looks more like you wanted to throw out a busdriven defense before even knowing what the results were.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby aage on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:00 am

Nendreel wrote:
aage wrote:Hippo's formulation of his original claim (being a watcher) led me to suspect he thought I visited Jonty. Which didn't happen, we all know that now. Then he claimed to be a tracker, and that he saw me get blocked (which is odd for a tracker, but I'm not familiar with the mod).

FYI, I was never told I was blocked by rishaed. Hippo's information is new to me, but fits with what happened last night.


Why would Hippo think you visited Jonty? If, as you said, you didn't visit Jonty then Hippo wouldn't have gotten such a result. It looks more like you wanted to throw out a busdriven defense before even knowing what the results were.

Actually, I was trying to counter-ruse him into claiming he saw me visit someone I did not. If that had happened, we would have had an instance of lynch all liars.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby rishaed on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:10 am

aage wrote:FYI, I was never told I was blocked by rishaed. Hippo's information is new to me, but fits with what happened last night.

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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby jonty125 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:50 am

unvote don't want hippo lynched.
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby Little Witt on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:31 pm

Why do I have two votes on me? just noticed that...JustE S7C why you vote on me?
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby jonty125 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Little Witt wrote:Why do I have two votes on me? just noticed that...JustE S7C why you vote on me?


FOS Little Witt for skimming.

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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby new guy1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:35 pm

Unvote hippo because I feel like hes in the clear right now, and I feel as though pressuring little witt would be good because he has some votes and he is rather inactive, but another thing is that we could pressure S7C because he is more active then witt and I think that we are low on time, so we would get an answer for him more quickly then witt most likely. What do you guys think?
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Re: ++No Handlebars [10/11] Day 2: Blinded Watcher++

Postby Just_essence on Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:51 pm

Ah, right. Since the claim effort seems to be over, I don't think my vote should be there.
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Seems like the night's where the action will take place. A lynch now seems unlikely.
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