Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!

[Iron Butterfly]

My job is done.

[Iron Butterfly]

My job is done.

LOL and i was looking forward to claiming for the controversy...I had the same role in Matrix Mafia...hows that for randomness?

GG all.

[rishaed]

GG IB I'll leave my comments for afterwards.
Any of our cases from D1 are dried up. We need to look at yesterday to see what sticks out. Imma going to do a readthrough to see what sticks out.

[Nebuchadnezer]

GG IB I'll leave my comments for afterwards.
Any of our cases from D1 are dried up. We need to look at yesterday to see what sticks out. Imma going to do a readthrough to see what sticks out.

Well, let's start with known facts...who did you protect last night?

[rishaed]

Speisr. . . I was initially going to protect IB after painting the target on his back, but decided that there was more of a chance that speisr would be targeted.
I would say that Edoc, Speisr, and I are all townies. . .
That being said I am going to vote the inactive >.>
vote Gregwolf
Otherwise PCM/Kanin might be good leads to go off of.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Speisr. . . I was initially going to protect IB after painting the target on his back, but decided that there was more of a chance that speisr would be targeted.
I would say that Edoc, Speisr, and I are all townies. . .
That being said I am going to vote the inactive >.>
vote Gregwolf
Otherwise PCM/Kanin might be good leads to go off of.

Those are nice opinions of Edoc and Spiesr and yourself...all backed up by ZERO fact. I thought Iron was a poor choice myself...we might have hanged him on his own.

My gut says chuck...but let's hear from some people...anyone get results?

[rishaed]

Edoc, I protected N1 (no death), his initial reaction the fact that I was doc'd+protected him, plus a half admission by doom that it would make him town, makes me 98% certain that he is town.
Speisr, I mean who after a scum mate claims, points out that his claim isn't legit b/c it wasn't on the game list. It would have to be planned the night before ( i mean given that nobody would push for doom lynch the next day).
I, because i know I am the bodyguard. If you don't believe me that's one thing, I don't know why the scum have let me live so long anyways.

[gregwolf121]

well i got nothing just a few people im going to keep an eye on but nothing but gut feelings for now,
so anybody get something last night that they want to share

[Nebuchadnezer]

Reading back on Doomyoshi's posts, I come to the following conclusion...Kanin Usagi and Pancakemix are most likely mafia. Why? Doom never once mentions either of them in his posts. I think he mentions everyone else, except for those two. I'm willing to start with one of them. Although, let's be honest, we have quite a few sandbaggers in this game, making it tough to be sure.

For review, here is the vote count...

DoomYoshi (6) - spieser; Nebuchadnezar; Doom Yoshi; rishaed; Kanin Usagi; Iron Butterfly;

So Kanin was on the wagon, pancake was off. So...who to vote...

Vote pancakemix I think his posts seem off. Also, he forced Rishaed's claim on D1 for crap reasons. Then when Edoc tore him up, he quickly backed off. Also, his statement that he would have hammered Doom seems like he's just trying to fit in. I'm all for Pancake on this one.

[jonty125]

Vote Count
Gregwolf121 (1) - rishaed;
pancakemix (1) - Nebuchadnezar;

Deadline is Firday 22 February @ 1600 GMT. If the vote count were to remain the same until deadline a 24 hour run-off period will be enforced.

[spiesr]

Reading back on Doomyoshi's posts, I come to the following conclusion...Kanin Usagi and Pancakemix are most likely mafia. Why? Doom never once mentions either of them in his posts. I think he mentions everyone else, except for those two. I'm willing to start with one of them. Although, let's be honest, we have quite a few sandbaggers in this game, making it tough to be sure.

For review, here is the vote count...

DoomYoshi (6) - spieser; Nebuchadnezar; Doom Yoshi; rishaed; Kanin Usagi; Iron Butterfly;

So Kanin was on the wagon, pancake was off. So...who to vote...

Vote pancakemix I think his posts seem off. Also, he forced Rishaed's claim on D1 for crap reasons. Then when Edoc tore him up, he quickly backed off. Also, his statement that he would have hammered Doom seems like he's just trying to fit in. I'm all for Pancake on this one.

Alright this looks like the best thing we have right now. So let's hurry up and see where it takes us. Here is some stuff to back it up with.

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Given the time I can't really hold much against pancakemix from his first post as it is. However I have a bit of a problem with the second one. He kind of comes off like he is trying to retroactively insert of vote into his first post. In effect this gives off a bit of a vibe that he is trying to absolve himself of the responsibility of putting rishaed in a position where he has to claim . "Oh my vote was actually cast back there, it's Hank that pushed the count up to L-2 not me." Between that and him not really additions the changes in rishaed's defense that occured between his two posts leaves this vote with a bad taste in hindsight.

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At the end he subtly extends his own defense to cover DoomYoshi as well.

Another note, after the above post pancakemix never provides any input regarding what to do with the Day 1 lynch. He did make a post between then and the end of the Day, but it didn't provide any comment or direction relating to anything of value. He just sat back and watcher the Day coast into what ended up being a no lynch. (Now, if he wanted a no lynch result at that point it would be fine, but he would have needed to actually say so rather than do nothing.) That certainly smells like laying low to me.

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He started off Day 2 by making this slightly curious post. I am still waiting for him to respond why he drew the the conclusion that scum didn't try to kill the doctor based off of the info available at the time.

After that he didn't post for a couple of days, by the time he posted again the lynch had been reached. Now, that itself isn't scummy, as is it only took a few days to get to that point and pancakemix has chronically low activity in general, but it does leave us with very little to work with. When he did post after the lynch was reached he ended up not really saying anything of value, although this can be partially excused by the lynch having been reached leaving fewer things to discuss, it still leaves us in a situation where pancakemix didn't contribute anything useful at all Day 2.

Vote Pancakemix

[rishaed]

Hes on my list of suspicious persons, and its better than an inactive case against gregwolf. unvote vote PCM

[edocsil]

Yeah, inactive cases don't really hold much water at day 3 by me. Not sold yet on PCM. I'll sort out my thoughts on that by tomorrow night, two exams tomorrow and I can't devote the time to an analysis tonight.

[Kanin Usagi]

If it helps make me seem less scummy to people, I will say that Nebuchadnezzar did not visit anyone last night. Also, just because Doom did not specifically mention myself does not in itself mean I am scum. He just didn't see me as a good target to focus attention on.

In fact:

I would like Jonty to tell us whether or not Battle of the Bulge should have been on the list and he forgot to put it on there. If it was not supposed to be on the list, then I would like a lynch of Doom for lying (as he shouldn't have that role then.)

I was in favor of lynching Doom for his mistake, and pretty vocal about it too.

[rishaed]

Wait, what??? No one has voted, you and yet you are taking preliminary measures for a defense and partially claiming???
Suspicious. . . IF Neb didn't visit anyone last night, don't softclaim a PR. Its painting a bullseye on your back, unless you don't fear the mafia. And if what you say is true it proves nothing, neither that Neb is town/ or that Neb is scum. There are many other ways to seem less scummy without putting revealing information out there.
unvote vote Kanin for doing something that he knows better than to do. (its not his 1st game here by a long shot, and he can't play the I'm a noob card IMO). As much as it might help if what you are saying is true about yourself, but its not worth the risk of increasing your chances of being NK'd.