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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby spiesr on Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:08 am

pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:08 pm

I am Vilkas, Companion's 2-Shot Vigilante. I am just town, the whole crucial player thing didn't carry over from Skyrim. So far I have not submitted a kill.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby rishaed on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:44 pm

jonty125 wrote:Mod Note:

Kanin was a watchmaker. Apologies for mistake on my part.


As for Edoc, I trust him enough for the claim to have at least a little bit of credence. unvote vote Neb. Lynch all Liars, If hes lying about the track hes scum, if hes not lying about the track, then PCM is scum either way one of them is clearly scum now.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby spiesr on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:10 pm

rishaed wrote:As for Edoc, I trust him enough for the claim to have at least a little bit of credence. unvote vote Neb. Lynch all Liars, If hes lying about the track hes scum, if hes not lying about the track, then PCM is scum either way one of them is clearly scum now.
Wait a minute, depending on what exactly pancakemix did that let him see Nebuchadnezer visit chuck it is possible neither of them are lying. Nebuchadnezer's claimed a track that came from Kanin Usagi giving it to him Night 2. Nebuchadnezer could also have an action from his own role last Night.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:11 pm

rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Mod Note:

Kanin was a watchmaker. Apologies for mistake on my part.


As for Edoc, I trust him enough for the claim to have at least a little bit of credence. unvote vote Neb. Lynch all Liars, If hes lying about the track hes scum, if hes not lying about the track, then PCM is scum either way one of them is clearly scum now.

I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either.
I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby rishaed on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:13 pm

Thats true, i didn't consider that possibility :oops: It still requires at least an explanation though.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:37 pm

rishaed wrote:That's true, i didn't consider that possibility :oops: It still requires at least an explanation though.


I assume flavor will give away my kills, the same with the hider and all. Also curious on the whole neb/pmc thing. Seems kinda like going out on a limb chasing after neb because I can't see him having motive to lie about me. I guess a lot of it depends on how trackers/roleblockers/actions work.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby spiesr on Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:40 pm

edocsil wrote:I am Vilkas, Companion's 2-Shot Vigilante. I am just town, the whole crucial player thing didn't carry over from Skyrim. So far I have not submitted a kill.
Hmm, I am having a little trouble that you are a vigilante (and not a one-shot one) but haven't killed anyone yet. My general feeling is that you are the sort of player who would not be that hesitant to use that power. Post like this one seem to support that theory:
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby rishaed on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:37 pm

Well there goes that one. . . Especially goes for the fact that you even said Doom was scum D1, so why didn't you vig him? PCM I might be able to shrug off as I changed my mind, but Doom? You blatantly called him scum, and combining that with the roleblock/No NK last night, my gut feeling was probably off. That and the fact that Speisr most likely stopped the N1 Kill. I mean if I was a vig, Doom would have been gone the first night. WIFOM argument i know, but the fact stands things aren't looking good for you.
and since i used Lynch all Liars logic on my vote on Neb, unvote Vote Edoc.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:50 pm

rishaed wrote:Well there goes that one. . . Especially goes for the fact that you even said Doom was scum D1, so why didn't you vig him? PCM I might be able to shrug off as I changed my mind, but Doom? You blatantly called him scum, and combining that with the roleblock/No NK last night, my gut feeling was probably off. That and the fact that Speisr most likely stopped the N1 Kill. I mean if I was a vig, Doom would have been gone the first night. WIFOM argument i know, but the fact stands things aren't looking good for you.
and since i used Lynch all Liars logic on my vote on Neb, unvote Vote Edoc.


It is WIFOM, but its accurate Meta. However, you're disregarding 2-shot. Look at how I play when I'm JOAT, I never use the kill until later. I was thinking about loping off Doom's head and saving the second for later, but I opted not to. If I had killed him and he not be scum you realize how screwed I would have been, right? Anyhow, I have a kill, and I'm comfortable using it tonight to prove my abilities, although I would have thought you would rather I stayed my hand. Flavor will show that I am not one of the previous killers. As far as LaL, do you really think I would claim a kill without being able to back it up? I would have come up with a better fake then this if I was just trying to hide. VT for Christ's sake, or something less wifomable. Governor perhaps, one that couldn't stop a self lynch.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby pancakemix on Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:48 pm

spiesr wrote:
pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?


Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.

I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)

Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:20 pm

pancakemix wrote:
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pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?


Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.

I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)

Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.


Okay, Watcher...let's see all your actions, please...
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby pancakemix on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:06 am

N1: Hank. No visitors. Hinted at it earlier (and by "hinted" I mean "outright blurted it out"):

pancakemix wrote:Anyone else think it's strange that the mafia didn't even go after the claimed doc? I mean, yeah, WIFOM and all that, but really...


N2: Blocked, as spiesr claims.
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby thechuck51 on Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:59 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either.
I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.

so what were you doing visiting me?
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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

Postby jonty125 on Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:55 am

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edocsil (2) - thechuck51; rishaed;

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 14 March @ 1600 GMT. If the vote count were to remain the same until deadline, edocsil will be lynched.
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