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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 12:35 am

stahrgazer wrote:Very simply, woodruff:

If you expect me and any thinking adult who has our children in mind, to respect your abilities as an instructor, then you would conduct yourself as BEST as possible, like you would in your classroom, in places where minors are KNOWN to be present.
Your behavior shows repeatedly: you cannot conduct yourself well in this venue, which is known to have minors, lots of them, present.
This isn't an adults-only site, and it isn't a bar, either.
It's a place for YOUNG and old to play some games.
Your conduct is hardly an example I'd recommend for any student, much less students of a program that teaches noble concepts such as Honor, Esprit de Corps.
MINORS ARE PRESENT HERE.
Half or more of the people you're calling "fucking retard" are probably minors. Awww, a minor taunted you and you had to resort to THAT? It does reflect on your abilities!
If you can't conduct yourself well, here, with minors present and being kids, it DOES reflect on how you'd handle yourself in other places where minors are present, and that includes your classroom.
Suck it up, cupcake, you're not showing your students a good "role model" when you act like you do.


It'd be nice if you'd stop making unfounded assumptions about my ability to do my job and just discuss this situation. Do you believe you could do that, or would it be too taxing on you not to be able to attack me in this manner?

As I've stated several times, I don't mind people mentioning that I am a teacher. I take great offense to people making these sorts of unfounded insinuations about my ability to do that job.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby DJPatrick on Wed May 18, 2011 3:45 am

Think of the children...think of the children!!!!@!!! lol...
To my way of thinking, Woodruff has given no worse nor no more than many others just has run up against Pimpdave in full flight...does it matter...surely a C&A Forum report needs to be more than "He said/she said"?
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby king sam on Wed May 18, 2011 4:02 am

Is it time to invite everyone to join in hands and post about how swell of a guy woody is, and ask for him not to get punished?
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby khazalid on Wed May 18, 2011 5:55 am

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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby stahrgazer on Wed May 18, 2011 7:55 am

Woodruff wrote:It'd be nice if you'd stop making unfounded assumptions about my ability to do my job and just discuss this situation. Do you believe you could do that, or would it be too taxing on you not to be able to attack me in this manner?

As I've stated several times, I don't mind people mentioning that I am a teacher. I take great offense to people making these sorts of unfounded insinuations about my ability to do that job.


They aren't assumptions, and they're well-founded on your conduct.

You broadly advertise that you're a teacher of the Jr. Reserved Officer's Training Corps, yet you also proudly, vehemently and viciously curse at people that you have VERY GOOD reason to believe could be the age group you're supposed to be leading, teaching, to be a cut above the rest, to conduct themselves with honor and integrity, to display conduct becoming an officer.

Your vehemence on a site full of minors is conduct unbecoming an officer, therefore, conduct that illuminates you as unfit to teach your students how to BE officers.

If you were in a brothel, a bar, or other places where only adults were around, your conduct might still be eye-raising; but you're not.

Now, I realize that the educator-wife thinks it's okay to "destress" at a bar because she's not drinking in the classroom. Again, though: a bar isn't filled with minors.

You, however, woodie, are on a site full of minors, cursing out mainly minors interspersed with a few adults.

Further, you're sharing information that should be kept at school or given out to the public only as authorized by parents.

If you went to your parents, your principal, and an Air Force Commanding Officer, I bet they'd tell you the exact same things I am. Further, I bet that if they could prove who "Woodruff" was, they'd consider your early retirement.

So continue to proudly, vulgarly, mouth off... just remember, this IS the example you're setting for your Jr. Officer's candidates.

And that's a FACT, whether the site decides to discipline you for your repeated severe forum abuse, or not.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Serbia on Wed May 18, 2011 8:25 am

stahrgazer, give it a rest. This thread has nothing to do with Woodruff's teaching abilities, and you are, in fact, trolling and baiting him with your every post. The way someone talks online generally reflects little on how the same person will behave in a room full other people, be they adults or children. It's not like Woodruff is posting pornographic images, or going all terroristic on people and threatening violence and worse. He's posting. He's using adult language. Big deal. Do you honestly believe that teachers NEVER swear, NEVER drink, NEVER smoke pot, NEVER visit a strip club? Get real.

So knock it off stahr. You're being a troll.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby pimpdave on Wed May 18, 2011 8:47 am

Night Strike wrote:Now this is priceless. The site's #1 troll accusing someone of breaking the rules while getting away with his own incessant trolling.


First of all, stop calling me names. Second of all, I'm just following your example, Night Strike. Last summer, when I started that thread to post images of racist Tea Party rally signs, showing how endemic racism is within your precious movement, you and your conservative buddies kept spamming up and derailing the thread, even though at the outset I made the parameters clear. One of Woodruff's flames featured here was in that thread. Jimboston spammed the heck out of it, and one of the moderators even refused to get back on topic despite repeated pleas from me that he do so. None of them were punished.

What I've done here is just like what you did back then, except unlike you, I'm not making some underhanded backdoor demand that someone be banned. Why are you and Woodruff both so blind to the fact that you guys do the exact same things I do? But according to you, when I do it, I'm a troll. When you do it, you're some fine upstanding American patriot hero. That's not how the world works. The double standard is bound to catch up to you eventually.

So Night Strike, according to you, it's fine for us all to start swearing at each other profusely. Interesting message there. It's okay for you to derail and spam threads, but if the thread creator wants people to get back on topic and posts repeatedly to remind people what the topic is, that person is way out of line and must be banned. Interesting message.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby jackal31 on Wed May 18, 2011 10:35 am

Let me ask this question:

Would you conduct yourself in this manner in front of women and children in real life?

Does it make it morally right to come to a site, that contains all types of people, and act in such disregard for others? If this were real life, and you did that anywhere, you would likely be asked to leave the premises and/or the police would be called.

And Serb, no one is talking about Woody's teaching abilities, but his character and professionalism outside of the classroom. I hold myself to higher standards because I will be a future leader of children. I do make mistakes, but try to correct and learn from them. The list of profanity laced insults is not something that should continue to happen when declaring oneself an honorable person. What a person does outside the classroom is entirely up to them. But, just as any profession, your background follows you. Every leader in the world has a life to that follows them. If I were at a restaurant, and saw a man acting in a way Woody does here, and found out what he did for a living, I would be ashamed for the students in his class. I wouldnt want my kids there, and I dont think you would either. Leaders are persecuted for actions everyday, how is this supposed to be okay? Its one thing to vent, and its another to display these actions.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed May 18, 2011 11:03 am

Can you all please take the discussion about whether a teacher should behave like this to another thread? It is entirely irrelevant to the C&A report.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed May 18, 2011 11:13 am

jackal31 wrote:. I hold myself to higher standards because I will be a future leader of children.


Oh my....that made me lol. On so many, many levels. However, I'll let this

future leader of children


try and work out what they may be.

As to the thread...I can't understand why pimp would bother himself to even engage with types like nightstrike and woodruff. They are both beyond help.

Why he would waste his considerable resources of intelligence on actually trying to defeating them beggars belief.

Follow my policy pimp and you'll be a much happier CC'er. Ignore the weak, the feeble and the idiotic. Don't attack them, don't engage with them...just every once in a while treat them with the disdain they deserve.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 11:43 am

stahrgazer wrote:
Woodruff wrote:It'd be nice if you'd stop making unfounded assumptions about my ability to do my job and just discuss this situation. Do you believe you could do that, or would it be too taxing on you not to be able to attack me in this manner?

As I've stated several times, I don't mind people mentioning that I am a teacher. I take great offense to people making these sorts of unfounded insinuations about my ability to do that job.


They aren't assumptions, and they're well-founded on your conduct.

You broadly advertise that you're a teacher of the Jr. Reserved Officer's Training Corps, yet you also proudly, vehemently and viciously curse at people that you have VERY GOOD reason to believe could be the age group you're supposed to be leading, teaching, to be a cut above the rest, to conduct themselves with honor and integrity, to display conduct becoming an officer.

Your vehemence on a site full of minors is conduct unbecoming an officer, therefore, conduct that illuminates you as unfit to teach your students how to BE officers.

If you were in a brothel, a bar, or other places where only adults were around, your conduct might still be eye-raising; but you're not.

Now, I realize that the educator-wife thinks it's okay to "destress" at a bar because she's not drinking in the classroom. Again, though: a bar isn't filled with minors.

You, however, woodie, are on a site full of minors, cursing out mainly minors interspersed with a few adults.

Further, you're sharing information that should be kept at school or given out to the public only as authorized by parents.

If you went to your parents, your principal, and an Air Force Commanding Officer, I bet they'd tell you the exact same things I am. Further, I bet that if they could prove who "Woodruff" was, they'd consider your early retirement.

So continue to proudly, vulgarly, mouth off... just remember, this IS the example you're setting for your Jr. Officer's candidates.

And that's a FACT, whether the site decides to discipline you for your repeated severe forum abuse, or not.


Quite frankly, you are wrong. You don't have to like that fact, but you are. You simply don't know what you're talking about. Be that as it may, I have now asked you a couple of times to stop denigrating my teaching abilities. You have no cause to do this. It has no bearing at all on this case. So stop it, stahrgazer. Now.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 11:44 am

pimpdave wrote:So Night Strike, according to you, it's fine for us all to start swearing at each other profusely. Interesting message there.


Nowhere did Night Strike even imply that "it's fine for us all to start swearing at each other profusely".
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed May 18, 2011 11:46 am

Ooh...here is a man preparing to click that 'report a post' button if ever there was one.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 11:58 am

jackal31 wrote:And Serb, no one is talking about Woody's teaching abilities, but his character and professionalism outside of the classroom.


You are wrong. My teaching abilities have absolutely been called into question here. Allow me to provide some direct quotes:
"It sheds light on what's wrong with our educational system."
"So... just imagine what his students are learning from him!"
"It's not ludicrous. It reveals you have a very short fuse, especially if someone dares disagree with you, which is a reflection of how you'd handle being questioned in class."
"I'm quite glad that a person like this wasn't my AFJROTC instructor!!!!"
"If you expect me and any thinking adult who has our children in mind, to respect your abilities as an instructor"
"You would post about your students in a public forum? That's the most telling of all!"
"If you can't conduct yourself well, here, with minors present and being kids, it DOES reflect on how you'd handle yourself in other places where minors are present, and that includes your classroom."
"And, btw, without parental permission, it IS inappropriate even to brag about students in public."
"Your vehemence on a site full of minors is conduct unbecoming an officer, therefore, conduct that illuminates you as unfit to teach your students how to BE officers."
"Further, you're sharing information that should be kept at school or given out to the public only as authorized by parents."
"If you went to your parents, your principal, and an Air Force Commanding Officer, I bet they'd tell you the exact same things I am. Further, I bet that if they could prove who "Woodruff" was, they'd consider your early retirement."
"Don't you have a class to teach? I think stahrgazer might have been on to something. Shouldn't your attention be on your students?"
(That last one should sound familiar...it was you.)

So...is that enough quotes for you, to show that you are wrong in your statement above about the statements being directly made about my job?

jackal31 wrote:Leaders are persecuted for actions everyday


That happens to be against the rules on this site, as has been pointed out many times.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed May 18, 2011 12:09 pm

What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.

Well, it takes all sorts, huh?
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 12:11 pm

Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Mr Changsha on Wed May 18, 2011 12:19 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.


Nope...what is strange is your ability to get people to rip the shit out of you. I maintain you do it deliberately, and a more insidious form of trolling it is hard to find.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby jefjef on Wed May 18, 2011 12:25 pm

Mr Changsha wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.


Nope...what is strange is your ability to get people to rip the shit out of you. I maintain you do it deliberately, and a more insidious form of trolling it is hard to find.



Mr C is very accurate on this assessment. woodruff refers to his job and capabilities quite extensively and when he tosses around some tirades he KNOWS it will bait others into responding.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

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Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.


Odd, because by your standards, it's not off limits for you to attack other people's personal lives (I'm sure I could find more examples if necessary):

Woodruff wrote:Look fuckhead. How pathetic is your life? You must be some sort of a doormat in real life.


So why are you complaining when you reap what you sow? Why are you always reporting people? Why not just stop doing this stuff and we can all move on? I mean, I don't really mind you swearing at me every other day and telling me I'm horrible and the worst person in the world and everything else, but it'd be nice if you'd go ahead and stop reporting me when I post some silly thread or something completely unrelated to you.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby jackal31 on Wed May 18, 2011 2:20 pm

Woodruff wrote:
jackal31 wrote:And Serb, no one is talking about Woody's teaching abilities, but his character and professionalism outside of the classroom.


You are wrong. My teaching abilities have absolutely been called into question here. Allow me to provide some direct quotes:
"It sheds light on what's wrong with our educational system."
"So... just imagine what his students are learning from him!"
"It's not ludicrous. It reveals you have a very short fuse, especially if someone dares disagree with you, which is a reflection of how you'd handle being questioned in class."
"I'm quite glad that a person like this wasn't my AFJROTC instructor!!!!"
"If you expect me and any thinking adult who has our children in mind, to respect your abilities as an instructor"
"You would post about your students in a public forum? That's the most telling of all!"
"If you can't conduct yourself well, here, with minors present and being kids, it DOES reflect on how you'd handle yourself in other places where minors are present, and that includes your classroom."
"And, btw, without parental permission, it IS inappropriate even to brag about students in public."
"Your vehemence on a site full of minors is conduct unbecoming an officer, therefore, conduct that illuminates you as unfit to teach your students how to BE officers."
"Further, you're sharing information that should be kept at school or given out to the public only as authorized by parents."
"If you went to your parents, your principal, and an Air Force Commanding Officer, I bet they'd tell you the exact same things I am. Further, I bet that if they could prove who "Woodruff" was, they'd consider your early retirement."
"Don't you have a class to teach? I think stahrgazer might have been on to something. Shouldn't your attention be on your students?"
(That last one should sound familiar...it was you.)
except for these two, they were intended to bait you outright

So...is that enough quotes for you, to show that you are wrong in your statement above about the statements being directly made about my job?

jackal31 wrote:Leaders are persecuted for actions everyday


That happens to be against the rules on this site, as has been pointed out many times.


Woodruff.....each of those statements are about your character outside of class and is speculative of how you might be in class. So yeah, its outside the classroom we are engaging in. You keep retaliating in this fashion, and yet, when do you hold yourself accountable?

If youre accusing me of persecuting you, then file a report, but for this site, acting in such a manner when there are children present should not be tolerated. Many dont like the personal attacks. One would think YOU might learn something by now.

In addition, what disgusts me most is this is all a form of internet bullying....and youre directly involved in it....one of the biggest problems faced in the world today and youre contributing to it. Its just getting more sickening the more I think about it.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby jackal31 on Wed May 18, 2011 2:54 pm

Having reviewed the Forum Guidlines, I am finished posting here. Apparently I did overstep my bounds according to the CC policy....as did many.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Evil Semp on Wed May 18, 2011 3:04 pm

Enough is enough. If you can't post something that will help us make a decision than please don't post. It doesn't matter what profession woodruff is in. On topic please.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby stahrgazer on Wed May 18, 2011 4:41 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Enough is enough. If you can't post something that will help us make a decision than please don't post. It doesn't matter what profession woodruff is in. On topic please.


Sorry, Semp, but I think that since his "justification" for every rant used as an example of his severe forum abuse and extreme flaming is that he was upset because someone downed his students, then that does open his conduct and discussion of his students as part of the topic.

Actually, it adds baiting to the initial complaint. If discussing someone's personal stuff isn't allowed, then he's baiting people into doing it by mentioning his profession, and when he does he should expect some flak (especially given, he's not one who shies away from giving flak, his is just alot nastier than many.)

He's got a mindset that it's absolutely appropriate for him to post anything he wants, but absolutely inappropriate for anyone to disagree with him.

And if they do disagree with him, they're subject to his vitriolic abusive retorts, which he then claims is justified.

He even admits he's deliberately "venting" stuff that happened outside of CC when he does it, which belies his, "it's justified" claim.

While I agree he's not going to listen to a reasoned approach about his inappropriate posting designed to shed light on whatever his "stressors" are, it does lead to his "motive" for those continual abuses he subjects others to.
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 4:46 pm

Mr Changsha wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.


Nope...what is strange is your ability to get people to rip the shit out of you. I maintain you do it deliberately, and a more insidious form of trolling it is hard to find.


Perhaps you can point out for me how I trolled pimpdave to get his initial post in this thread:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=144607
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Re: Woodruff -- Severe Forum Abuse, Extreme Flaming

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 18, 2011 4:48 pm

pimpdave wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:What a strange trolling method woodruff has. He baits people into ripping the shit out of him and then reports them for doing so.
Well, it takes all sorts, huh?


Nicely asking people to stop discussing my job capabilities (when they have no way of actually knowing my job capabilities) is trolling to you?
That is strange.


Odd, because by your standards, it's not off limits for you to attack other people's personal lives (I'm sure I could find more examples if necessary):

Woodruff wrote:Look fuckhead. How pathetic is your life? You must be some sort of a doormat in real life.


That is in no way attacking your job capabilities, pimpdave. So...please DO bring in all of these examples you allegedly have of my attacking other people's personal lives. I welcome it, because I know this is just another lie, just like your lies about my having sent you PMs filled with vile hatred...PMs that have somehow never surfaced.
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