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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby mc05025 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:25 pm

gameplayer wrote:awfully hard to switch accounts this fast...

2012-01-19 10:35:59 - Kiron ended the turn and got spoils
2012-01-19 10:36:04 - leonard_hall received 2 troops for holding Napoleon
2012-01-19 10:36:07 - Kiron received 2 troops for holding Chässe

2012-01-20 11:20:53 - Kiron ended the turn
2012-01-20 11:20:57 - leonard_hall received 2 troops for holding Napoleon



Not really. He can use 2 browsers and being long on at the same pc to 2 accounts. In addition at that particular round he needed to start as quick as possible to take the bonus (I succeeded to attack him in those 8 secs) But I doubt he did something like that. And the conversations between them does not seems fake. I beleive they are friends but I prefer an answer from him
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby IcePack on Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:16 pm

Agreed, the most plausible answer i could understand is if they were friends playing @ same univ, tho hard to prove...(and hard to disprove)
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby mc05025 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:42 pm

And something else I just notice. On Game 10386256. It is a standar game which normaly someone new like mcrcweb would want to play. But then Kiron joined which is very strange because Kiron never plays at that map. If he was multy I do not think he would have done something so strange but on the other hand Kiron can not claim that he does not even know who mcrcweb is which support my theory that they are friends helping each other. (and so leonard_hall too)
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:56 pm

Argh...nvm found out what happened lol! What a cruel joke!
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:03 pm

Sorry, for the entire mess. You guys can blame Xiangwang for that lol. He convinced two of our regular risk buddies (one is a housemate) to screw around with me (yeah, it turns out their account was leonard_hall and mcrcweb lol, I SERIOUSLY did not know) ever since I told Xiangwang I re-started conquerclub again. The entire house erupted in laughter when they found out I got busted. It was not very nice of them!
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:05 pm

p.s. MC, the game I was with mcrcweb on in classics, I didn't actually choose that, Xiangwang just made me join that game when I left my account on (I originally had no idea why he did it, now it makes perfect sense). Yeah, screw it, ban those two players, though I would like my $25 back, I'm just a victim of a VERY cruel joke :P
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby xiangwang on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:15 pm

I would like to apologize to Kiron and the Conquerclub community for the stunt my housemates and I pulled on Kiron. It was very childish and we realized our mistake. He was an unknown victim in this process (his reaction was not very happy when he found out).

P.S. Leonard_hall is actually a REALLY good player, I did give him some hints on the Waterloo Map (that explains why leonard_hall can play Waterloo so well).

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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby mc05025 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:23 pm

LOL. Now who is writhing with Xiangwang 's account??? We will never know :). In any case you can say good bye at your 25 $ Kiron(there are not such a lot, and you can ask them from your friends :D ) :). But you can see the positive point of view. Now you have Premium :D :D :D :D
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:07 pm

Yeah, I got the money back, but I rather have my 200-300 points (from the 4 games I got kicked out of). So Hunters...as you can see...I am innocent...can I put be put back in the game I got kicked out of?
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Bones2484 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:08 pm

Kiron wrote:Yeah, I got the money back, but I rather have my 200-300 points (from the 4 games I got kicked out of). So Hunters...as you can see...I am innocent...can I put be put back in the game I got kicked out of?


Absolutely not going to happen. It's impossible. Thank your friends for the loss of points.
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:17 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Kiron wrote:Yeah, I got the money back, but I rather have my 200-300 points (from the 4 games I got kicked out of). So Hunters...as you can see...I am innocent...can I put be put back in the game I got kicked out of?


Absolutely not going to happen. It's impossible. Thank your friends for the loss of points.



So um...can I get Xiangwang to login and give me back ("ahem" I mean lose 10-15 games due to my better skill) the points i lost (since he should take the loss of points for their stupid stunt).

Can CC punish Xiangwang or something (like transfer his points to me or something)? Now my entire merit will be questioned (every player who plays me will now think I have someone helping me and just gun for me), there is no way I can wash myself clean of this after their stupid stunt!

And honestly, is the IP address check the only tool Hunter's have at their disposal? If yes, they need a better method bc it's flawed since they just convicted an innocent man guilty!
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:00 pm

Kiron wrote:Yeah, I got the money back, but I rather have my 200-300 points (from the 4 games I got kicked out of). So Hunters...as you can see...I am innocent...can I put be put back in the game I got kicked out of?


I expect the 174 players that you and xiangwang took points off in your undeclared alliance would like their points back too ;)
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby D00MandD3A7H on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:12 am

All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:26 am

D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


Cause we're THAT good :D
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby GeneralRisk on Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:03 am

Kiron wrote:
D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


Cause we're THAT good :D
Maybe....Maybe not.
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby IR1SH ACE on Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:03 am

D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


have to agree with you this is all very odd...but it seems like it does not matter what you do around here as long as you pay for premium again....
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:53 am

IR1SH ACE wrote:
D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


have to agree with you this is all very odd...but it seems like it does not matter what you do around here as long as you pay for premium again....


Not gonna' lie. There is way more going on here than it seems... Multihunters will understand this...
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby cookie0117 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:03 am

So your friends open accounts and played to help you win, as a joke....

hmmm, not a standard form of comedy. If my friends palyed a cruel joke on me, they would make me lose (and not just by getting caught).
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby b00060 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:43 pm

GeneralRisk wrote:
Kiron wrote:
D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


Cause we're THAT good :D
Maybe....Maybe not.


How about NOT
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby D00MandD3A7H on Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:27 pm

b00060 wrote:
GeneralRisk wrote:
Kiron wrote:
D00MandD3A7H wrote:All of this seems very fishy. How are all of these players consistent with winning huge points? AT BELOW 500 GAMES?


Cause we're THAT good :D
Maybe....Maybe not.


How about NOT


How about "I have had Canadian bacon better than you guys."
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Re: leonard_hall

Postby jiminski on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:51 am

Kiron wrote: .........However, the hunters should look into this (I have no clue how. Just curious, how does a hunter even trace these things?).


Hey Kiron, I think what the hunters do is wait until the accused says something along the lines of: "Oh by crikey! This is certainly suspicious and should definitely be looked into, incidentally, now we all know i'm as innocent as the next man" **fraternal wink** "how would one go about covering ones tracks.. if a person were not as innocent as i am... just for interest's sake!?"
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Criticalwinner on Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 am

Kiron wrote:Sorry, for the entire mess. You guys can blame Xiangwang for that lol. He convinced two of our regular risk buddies (one is a housemate) to screw around with me (yeah, it turns out their account was leonard_hall and mcrcweb lol, I SERIOUSLY did not know) ever since I told Xiangwang I re-started conquerclub again. The entire house erupted in laughter when they found out I got busted. It was not very nice of them!


What a load of crap. You created accounts to help you win. You got busted and had to pay to get premium. Besides, who plays a prank on the other person to make them win? (No one)
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby nippersean on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:03 pm

Kiron / Xiangwang (or are you one and the same?)

Maybe it is time you posted all the people that play CC and also live in your house. Sometimes then they do, then they don't, then they do again! They seem to play in exactly the same style (even as noob freemiums after 5 1v1's - incredible!)

You seem to play in a lot of 8 player freestyle waterloo games (+others) together and have an incredible win %.

Only question I have - is it all one player? Or is it two.

Even so why are you (Kiron / Xiangwang) allowed to play in the same game as each other (or yourself?)

The other players (leonard_hall etc) have been busted as your multis - which is why they threw the game to you (two?)

I'm particularly interested in your question of what tools the multi-hunters use. Why would you want to know this?

You claim they have been taught to play "RISK"tm - the board game we all know and love. Please explain your method for teaching 8 player, waterloo, freestyle, diplomacy tactics playing RISK.
I've been playing with my son, he's pretty good 1v1 - knows the value of Australia in small player games (partic no spoils), and can play a decent sweep in large player esc games. Just don't think I could teach him 8 player foggy, freestyle, diplomacy, waterloo like you appear to.

So how?

Anyways - to get back to the point - your multis aside - are you and Xiangwang one and the same?

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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby Kiron on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:07 am

nippersean wrote:Kiron / Xiangwang (or are you one and the same?)

Maybe it is time you posted all the people that play CC and also live in your house. Sometimes then they do, then they don't, then they do again! They seem to play in exactly the same style (even as noob freemiums after 5 1v1's - incredible!)

You seem to play in a lot of 8 player freestyle waterloo games (+others) together and have an incredible win %.

Only question I have - is it all one player? Or is it two.

Even so why are you (Kiron / Xiangwang) allowed to play in the same game as each other (or yourself?)

The other players (leonard_hall etc) have been busted as your multis - which is why they threw the game to you (two?)

I'm particularly interested in your question of what tools the multi-hunters use. Why would you want to know this?

You claim they have been taught to play "RISK"tm - the board game we all know and love. Please explain your method for teaching 8 player, waterloo, freestyle, diplomacy tactics playing RISK.
I've been playing with my son, he's pretty good 1v1 - knows the value of Australia in small player games (partic no spoils), and can play a decent sweep in large player esc games. Just don't think I could teach him 8 player foggy, freestyle, diplomacy, waterloo like you appear to.

So how?

Anyways - to get back to the point - your multis aside - are you and Xiangwang one and the same?

Nipp


Hi, here is a quick link to strat that you may find useful for freestyle. Xiangwang put a lot of energy in creating it.

viewtopic.php?f=58&t=117940&start=75
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Re: leonard_hall[busted]es

Postby nippersean on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:45 pm

You put it together?? You didn't respond to any of my questions.

I all ready posted in that thread - question still remains - are you xiangwang? I was being oblique with my "ask Kiron" remark.

Obviously playing with multi's and being a multi yourself is a way to get to colonel in 100 games.

This isn't my point - please re-read my post and reply.

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