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DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[Warned]SN

Postby Campin_Killer on Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:59 am

Accused:

DBo
FERN01




The accused are suspected of:

Severe Ratings Abuse



Game number(s):
Too many to list (If I have too, because you cannot, for some reason, look at their ratings page, I will provide some, but I cba to list a bunch of them)


Comments:
For DBo and FERN01, anyone that beat them receives an all 1 star rating with tags that make no sense.

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11350420
All 1s, with some rediculous tags.

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... n1111&so=D
Again

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=10897050
"Sore Loser"

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... api78&so=D
Again with the 1s

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11443889
Again

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11394584
Again

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... ey3GA&so=D
Again

https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... e+Boy&so=D
Again

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11348660
Again

That took about 5 minutes. But hell, I guess you cannot be bothered to look
Last edited by Campin_Killer on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:16 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby afroaction on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:05 am

Just because you've received a bad rating from someone, doesn't mean it's abuse.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Campin_Killer on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:07 am

So the multiple pages of 1 stars is not ratings abuse?

Yeah, nice try.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Symmetry on Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:46 am

afroaction wrote:Just because you've received a bad rating from someone, doesn't mean it's abuse.


I think the issue is that the system may well be being abused in a general sense. Looking at the ratings left pages for DBo at least suggests that the OP is probably right to call attention to a possible abuse of the system:

DBo's Ratings Left

I think the mods will likely be asking for specific games to look at though.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Donelladan on Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:43 am

Some ratings are really funny :


Tags: Secret Diplomacy
Response: we were only two. how can I have secret diplomacy with myself? you're a sore loser


Rating abuse is so obvious I am just wondering why nobody report him before.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby deathcomesrippin on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:54 am

Please provide at least 5 cases in which you believe there is ratings abuse.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Tenebrus on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:29 am

I do hope someone bothers to datamine it. DBo is awful for this. He's the worst loser I've ever come across. And I played codeblue.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:16 am

deathcomesrippin wrote:Please provide at least 5 cases in which you believe there is ratings abuse.


Guess it's too much to ask :roll:
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby Donelladan on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:30 am

edit : well have been done by the OP while I was posting, useless post now ^^

Thunderbirds
Game 11350420

Ratings left : 1 start each, bully, poor strategy

They played only one game together and Thunderbirds didnt say a word, and won the game. Don't see how it can be bully or poor strategy since Thunder won.

cadou
Game 10918918

One game played.
Cadou received a one star each and "rude". But cadou won so one star for game play...

SirBurninator
Game 11094445

One game played.
SirBurninator won.
He got one star each and cheap tactics.
Chat is awesome :

2012-05-13 19:55:23 - DBo: Foe'd
2012-05-13 19:59:46 - SirBurninator: why foed?
2012-05-13 19:59:53 - SirBurninator: what did I do?
2012-05-13 20:00:59 - DBo: Attacking neutrals
2012-05-13 20:02:16 - SirBurninator: why can't you attack neutrals? that is the only way to take territories...



Jessica831
Game 10874278
One game played.
Jessica831r won.
She got one star each and poor strategy.

destroyah
A lot of games but only 1vs1.
destroyah received one star each and "secret diplomacy"
as stated by destroyah

Tags: Secret Diplomacy
Response: we were only two. how can I have secret diplomacy with myself? you're a sore loser


RDM21
2 games together. RDM21 win one and DBo one.
RDM21 received a 1 star ratings everywhere and a sore loser.
The chat of both game :
Game 10687401
2012-02-27 05:27:31 - RDM21: gg
2012-02-27 05:37:23 - RDM21: oops... now you gotta work for it :)
2012-02-27 05:37:35 - RDM21: gg!

Game 10600917
2012-02-12 07:41:33 - RDM21: GL
2012-02-12 07:58:08 - RDM21: GG DBo



That's only five, and I only watched opponent with one or two games, but just a look at it ratings left is enough to say he use ratings almost exclusively to give bad ratings.
There is one good ratings for 10 bads... and I am generous with the number of good one :D
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse

Postby lokisgal on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:21 pm

funny I looked at this yesterday and saw he had rated me all 1's and called me a deadbeat - now the rating is gone..

he does this to everyone he beats though it looks as hes deleted quite a few that were there yesterday ..
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[pending]SN

Postby agentcom on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:23 am

I wonder if the OP will be happy now that donelladan did his work for him? Or does it have to be a moderator to do what the OP should have done to make him happy?

Thanks donelladan. Nicely done.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[pending]SN

Postby lokisgal on Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:10 pm

ah found it

he tagged me

[respond]


DBo 4.3
2012-07-05 16:17:33 [find games]
Tags: Slow, Deadbeat, Rude, Quitter

since ive never been any of these things its a bit harsh. Id guess its retalitory since when I beat him he went on a wall post fest on my wall which got him a warning
I just checked all our games - normally he says nothing I say gl
one time I said so slow - its the last game we played together which then got me called a f*ckstick and then resulted in his wall barage :roll:
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[pending]SN

Postby Symmetry on Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:40 pm

agentcom wrote:I wonder if the OP will be happy now that donelladan did his work for him? Or does it have to be a moderator to do what the OP should have done to make him happy?

Thanks donelladan. Nicely done.


There's currently nothing in the guidelines that normal peeps can look at to know how many examples need to be given. It's one of the secret guidelines that only mods and people who look at how this stuff gets dealt with can know about.

Cheating an Abuse Guidelines

You might have more traction than me on actually posting what's required of complainants.
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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[Warned]SN

Postby sniffie on Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 am

Both players are warned for rating abuse.

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Re: DBo & FERN01 Severe Rating Abuse[pending]SN

Postby agentcom on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:31 am

Symmetry wrote:
agentcom wrote:I wonder if the OP will be happy now that donelladan did his work for him? Or does it have to be a moderator to do what the OP should have done to make him happy?

Thanks donelladan. Nicely done.


There's currently nothing in the guidelines that normal peeps can look at to know how many examples need to be given. It's one of the secret guidelines that only mods and people who look at how this stuff gets dealt with can know about.

Cheating an Abuse Guidelines

You might have more traction than me on actually posting what's required of complainants.


That's true that it's not in the guidelines. But usually someone pretty quickly comes along and explains it. That process I understand. What I don't understand is why so often there is hostility to the people that point out the need to back up the complaint that the ratings were actually undeserved/abusive. I just don't get why that's assumed to be the C&A team's job. I'd rather have them out hunting multis anyway! :)

That's all I was commenting on.
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