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General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[noted/warned]SN

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:48 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
Accused:General Scoles

The accused are suspected of:Suiciding / Game Throwing

Game number(s):Game 12256101

Comments:Blue attacked me for 15 rounds straight (26-41) until I was eliminated by the eventual winner.

Also, 2013-01-22 22:34:06 - General Scoles: sorry if it's ruining the game, g and y...but i'm only attacking this clown

^ He even admits to attacking me only, therefore throwing the game.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:43 am
by macbone
He doesn't seem very concerned that he's being called out on suiciding, is he? This is one reason I don't play more speed games.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:43 am
by betiko
nice addition to my foe list

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:40 am
by jghost7
He was suiciding and you were conducting Secret Diplomacy. These guys here at C&A have never definitively given consistent rulings with cases of suiciding. However, they have with SD. You should should probably just FAMO.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:45 am
by betiko
jghost7 wrote:He was suiciding and you were conducting Secret Diplomacy. These guys here at C&A have never definitively given consistent rulings with cases of suiciding. However, they have with SD. You should should probably just FAMO.


SD, where?

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:01 am
by jghost7
Check the walls of the other players.

taraoriginals' wall:
Forget about green, blue is a bigger problem. by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:58 pm

tblasius's wall:
He has a secured SA and Africa, Soon to be NA by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 pm


I didn't go too much further than that as this is not about JD, but you get the picture.

Thanks,

J

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:31 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
jghost7 wrote:Check the walls of the other players.

taraoriginals' wall:
Forget about green, blue is a bigger problem. by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:58 pm

tblasius's wall:
He has a secured SA and Africa, Soon to be NA by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 pm


I didn't go too much further than that as this is not about JD, but you get the picture.

Thanks,

J

I can see why you would think It's SD by posting on a wall. But a wall is public, and me, green, and blue posted on each others walls. Also, I did mention in the game chat about blue getting strong

2013-01-22 21:38:36 - Jdsizzleslice: Ok guys... Blue basically has south and North America, who attacks what?
2013-01-22 21:41:32 - Jdsizzleslice: Guys, blue is getting very strong.
2013-01-22 21:41:37 - Jdsizzleslice: He has SA and NA

So not really SD here.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:56 pm
by clangfield
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
jghost7 wrote:Check the walls of the other players.

taraoriginals' wall:
Forget about green, blue is a bigger problem. by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:58 pm

tblasius's wall:
He has a secured SA and Africa, Soon to be NA by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 pm


I didn't go too much further than that as this is not about JD, but you get the picture.

Thanks,

J

I can see why you would think It's SD by posting on a wall. But a wall is public, and me, green, and blue posted on each others walls. Also, I did mention in the game chat about blue getting strong

2013-01-22 21:38:36 - Jdsizzleslice: Ok guys... Blue basically has south and North America, who attacks what?
2013-01-22 21:41:32 - Jdsizzleslice: Guys, blue is getting very strong.
2013-01-22 21:41:37 - Jdsizzleslice: He has SA and NA

So not really SD here.


Yes it is. Posting on a wall is SD - everything must be stated in game chat. Posting it in game chat _after_ posting on the wall doesn't count.
Posting identical comments on a wall after you've posted them in game chat is probably okay... just a bit pointless :roll:

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:53 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
clangfield wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:
jghost7 wrote:Check the walls of the other players.

taraoriginals' wall:
Forget about green, blue is a bigger problem. by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:58 pm

tblasius's wall:
He has a secured SA and Africa, Soon to be NA by Jdsizzleslice on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 pm


I didn't go too much further than that as this is not about JD, but you get the picture.

Thanks,

J

I can see why you would think It's SD by posting on a wall. But a wall is public, and me, green, and blue posted on each others walls. Also, I did mention in the game chat about blue getting strong

2013-01-22 21:38:36 - Jdsizzleslice: Ok guys... Blue basically has south and North America, who attacks what?
2013-01-22 21:41:32 - Jdsizzleslice: Guys, blue is getting very strong.
2013-01-22 21:41:37 - Jdsizzleslice: He has SA and NA

So not really SD here.


Yes it is. Posting on a wall is SD - everything must be stated in game chat. Posting it in game chat _after_ posting on the wall doesn't count.
Posting identical comments on a wall after you've posted them in game chat is probably okay... just a bit pointless :roll:

Posted them on the wall because no one was responding in the chat. And I said on yellow and green's walls to read the chat.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:59 pm
by therev1957
when people don't respond in chat instead of sending info to them on their wall either PM them or put on their wall please read game chat in game 000000. That is not SD and it seems to work

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:21 pm
by rishaed
therev1957 wrote:when people don't respond in chat instead of sending info to them on their wall either PM them or put on their wall please read game chat in game 000000. That is not SD and it seems to work

QFT! The best and cleanest way to alert someone about a proposed truce. It keeps things above board, and brings things to a players attn. all at the same time. It helps keep the trust in game and players from starting to become paranoid.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:10 am
by Jdsizzleslice
therev1957 wrote:when people don't respond in chat instead of sending info to them on their wall either PM them or put on their wall please read game chat in game 000000. That is not SD and it seems to work

Great idea! Problem is some people don't read PM's during speed games lol. :P

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:05 pm
by rishaed
SO why would they read their wall???? :lol:

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:27 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
rishaed wrote:SO why would they read their wall???? :lol:

I don't know why. Go ask them ,see if they know. I'm just saying this from my personal experience, people tend to respond to wall comments, but don't even answer PM's until speed games are over.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:20 am
by rishaed
So tell them to look at game chat on their WALL >.> was already suggested, just making it more obvious. Either way its not an excuse.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:35 am
by Jdsizzleslice
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Posted them on the wall because no one was responding in the chat. And I said on yellow and green's walls to read the chat.

Re: General Scoles - Suiciding / Game Throwing[pending]SN

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:19 am
by sniffie
Although General Scoles actions are mainly because he felt like being bated by Jdsizzleslice, Gen. Scoles could also just have foed Jdsizzleslice.
therefore I'll note it for future reference.

Jdsizzleslice has been warned for conducting Secret Diplomacy, as stated in rule 2:

Any form of diplomatic discussion between opponents must be posted in the game chat in English or in a language that all opponents understand. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults

Sniff