Kiron & xiangwang[banned/blocked]sn

by **Funkyterrance** on Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:24 pm

qwertylpc wrote:so I haven't been up to date with this, but basically if I got this straight, they both get a 1 week timeout. They can't play with each other anymore, and lastly Kiron losses his conqueror status/medal for 1 week before he logs back on.

So far that's what it looks like but I can't believe it will be left at that.

by **jsnyder748** on Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:36 pm

GoranZ wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
SaMejoHn wrote:yes! in one week kiron will be conqueror again!!! give it a rest guys this is like mob rule. the original punishment was just 1 week ban and ban from playing together. then the clamoring mob began...and he was stripped of his medal. now the latest demand is point reset. whats next? demand he moves out of his frat house or confiscate his computer?

Usually we ask for fair play... There is none in his games. So he should be punished at least for the points they got in the disputed games...

NONE? He has never played fairly? explain to me how he has never used fair play. In the many games where he beat ME in freestyle I would hope I could recognize if it was skill or if he was playing unfairly. Maybe you think all freestyle is unfair. In that case I would like to applaud you for being "open minded" and "understanding what is truly going on here".

It seems you want to read what you want not whats written... Beginning page has very long list of his "fairly" played games. And probably those are not all.
I also can not control what you think I think about freestyle. And since I haven't mentioned freestyle its more then obvious that your mind reading is not working.

jsnyder748 wrote:Then you go on to say he should be punished for the disputed games....he is being punished. And if he has never used fair play then all of his games are disputed. And if all his games are disputed then the point reset is well deserved like you are all calling for. BUT all of his games are not disputed. only a few are. Most, if not well over the majority, of his games were skill in a setting on a map he excelled at.

I can't believe I am even talking again....*sigh*

Those "few" are over 20 games with ~1.5K points in total... That's a lot of points for 1 week ban and losing medal that he will get back in a week.

So now he has cheated in 20 games? Was that the ruling? :roll:

I sort of had to "try" and read your mind when your English didn't make much sense.

"Usually we ask for fair play... There is none in his games. So he should be punished at least for the points they got in the disputed games..."

You wrote there is none is his games. This implies all his games. Since they are all freestyle I assumed you thought the unfair portion came from freestyle. Which you obviously do since everyone thinks this is the case; Freestyle and them knowing each other.

I have read almost all posts about this and have been following it. I agree the points won in the final games were undeserved, but to say "There is none in his game" is wrong.

by **GoranZ** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:43 pm

jsnyder748 wrote:I sort of had to "try" and read your mind when your English didn't make much sense.

Or maybe your friendship with Kiron has some influence

by **Mageplunka69** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:29 pm

I feel nothing less of a reset should apply. I was reset twice when i was involved in shenanigans, and i had to pay as well...also being the cream of the crop as far as rank is concerned, he should be ruled upon as Blitz was and have the knowledge and respect of the rank . Making the reset the only possible ruling
If not i want to appeal my old rulings, because this is not fair and equal

by **Lindax** on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:46 pm

Mageplunka69 wrote:I feel nothing less of a reset should apply. I was reset twice when i was involved in shenanigans, and i had to pay as well...also being the cream of the crop as far as rank is concerned, he should be ruled upon as Blitz was and have the knowledge and respect of the rank . Making the reset the only possible ruling
If not i want to appeal my old rulings, because this is not fair and equal

Since when is the C&A department known for being consistent?

Waiting for an update to get that bug fixed for a long time now....

by **jsnyder748** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:26 am

GoranZ wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:I sort of had to "try" and read your mind when your English didn't make much sense.

Or maybe your friendship with Kiron has some influence

"friends" is a strong word I barely know him. I have played a lot with him and can attest for his skill. Until the first game that brought this up I have never felt like I was being taken advantage of by xiangwang and kiron. They respect all good players and play accodingly, just like how they respect each other when playing. A point reset would be fair I guess. I just don't think that the majority of his points were from cheating.

by **Funkyterrance** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:08 am

jsnyder748 wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:I sort of had to "try" and read your mind when your English didn't make much sense.

Or maybe your friendship with Kiron has some influence

"friends" is a strong word I barely know him. I have played a lot with him and can attest for his skill. Until the first game that brought this up I have never felt like I was being taken advantage of by xiangwang and kiron. They respect all good players and play accodingly, just like how they respect each other when playing. A point reset would be fair I guess. I just don't think that the majority of his points were from cheating.

I can see the need to respect another skilled player but I'm not sure how much it comes into play with this issue. I think a thorough investigation determining exactly how many point these guys gained from SD is needed here but I just don't have the time to be the one to do it. Full point reset seems extreme but I won't object. At the very least a deduction of the points gained from any questionable games (those vs. xiangwang). It's too bad these guys had to do this because they are obviously putting their fellow high-scorers in an awkward position by doing so.

by **GoranZ** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:21 am

jsnyder748 wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:I sort of had to "try" and read your mind when your English didn't make much sense.

Or maybe your friendship with Kiron has some influence

"friends" is a strong word I barely know him. I have played a lot with him and can attest for his skill. Until the first game that brought this up I have never felt like I was being taken advantage of by xiangwang and kiron. They respect all good players and play accodingly, just like how they respect each other when playing. A point reset would be fair I guess. I just don't think that the majority of his points were from cheating.

Lets do some math... They both took ~1.5K points from those disputed games + ~500 points that they didn't lost would give ~2K points difference for both. If 60% of the points of those 2K points went to Kiron and remaining 40% to xiangwang we can all ask our selves one simple question: Who would have more points you(jsnyder748) or Kiron?

P.S. I doubt it would have been Kiron

by **Mageplunka69** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:17 am

If they are that good, it will not take too long to climb again...plus all their friends would love to team with them as well

by **jsnyder748** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:08 am

I don't think Kiron will be coming back. Unless he realizes he lost his conqueror medal. Xiang has never been interested in team games and neither ever buy premium to learn team games properly. I don't think they want to get into the clan scene.

They could I guess, but it seems like a long shot to me.

by **kentington** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:12 pm

jsnyder748 wrote:I don't think Kiron will be coming back. Unless he realizes he lost his conqueror medal. Xiang has never been interested in team games and neither ever buy premium to learn team games properly. I don't think they want to get into the clan scene.

They could I guess, but it seems like a long shot to me.

I guess if it is really important that they hang out and play together, then maybe they can just play at home with their 8 roommates.

by **jsnyder748** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:44 pm

kentington wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:I don't think Kiron will be coming back. Unless he realizes he lost his conqueror medal. Xiang has never been interested in team games and neither ever buy premium to learn team games properly. I don't think they want to get into the clan scene.

They could I guess, but it seems like a long shot to me.

I guess if it is really important that they hang out and play together, then maybe they can just play at home with their 8 roommates.

right they will make their own clan

by **SaMejoHn** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:03 pm

jsnyder748 wrote:
kentington wrote:
jsnyder748 wrote:I don't think Kiron will be coming back. Unless he realizes he lost his conqueror medal. Xiang has never been interested in team games and neither ever buy premium to learn team games properly. I don't think they want to get into the clan scene.

They could I guess, but it seems like a long shot to me.

I guess if it is really important that they hang out and play together, then maybe they can just play at home with their 8 roommates.

right they will make their own clan

where do i sign up?

by **eddie2** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:07 pm

in this forum right now...

Users browsing this forum: swimmerdude99, xiangwang and 0 guests

is that 1 week already ??????

by **40kguy** on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:11 pm

eddie2 wrote:in this forum right now...

Users browsing this forum: swimmerdude99, xiangwang and 0 guests

is that 1 week already ??????

hahah i saw the same thing.

he still isnt on the scoreboard so i would say no

by **agentcom** on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:00 pm

A point reset might take away points that were unfairly earned, but it goes too far and punishes everyone that he plays in the near future. I would hate to be in a game against a supposed private who is as good as Kiron. Far more players will lose far more points in the first couple weeks of his return than lost points due to this abuse. If only there was a way to knock him down 1000 points or so ...

by **Funkyterrance** on Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:00 am

agentcom wrote: If only there was a way to knock him down 1000 points or so ...

This is an impossibility? If it's not then can't someone figure it out?

by **GoranZ** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:53 am

agentcom wrote:If only there was a way to knock him down 1000 points or so ...

There is a way but Admins don't want to do it... But I can say 14.5K players atm, there were over 15K few months ago. People are allergic to cheating

by **Funkyterrance** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:08 am

GoranZ wrote:
agentcom wrote:If only there was a way to knock him down 1000 points or so ...

There is a way but Admins don't want to do it... But I can say 14.5K players atm, there were over 15K few months ago. People are allergic to cheating

Hell yes they are, this whole thing is disgusting. I never thought of this place as some cheap ass website where anything goes so I don't understand this break in character. Bleh.

by **codeblue1018** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:52 am

For a guy who "wasn't" coming back sure had a quick change of heart; seems as tho he couldn't bear for another person to have "his conqueror" status. You're an embarrassment mate; beat it!

by **xiangwang** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:50 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:For a guy who "wasn't" coming back sure had a quick change of heart; seems as tho he couldn't bear for another person to have "his conqueror" status. You're an embarrassment mate; beat it!

He's not coming back, he hasn't played a game since...in the meanwhile feel free to join my games

by **codeblue1018** on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:07 pm

xiangwang wrote:
codeblue1018 wrote:For a guy who "wasn't" coming back sure had a quick change of heart; seems as tho he couldn't bear for another person to have "his conqueror" status. You're an embarrassment mate; beat it!

He's not coming back, he hasn't played a game since...in the meanwhile feel free to join my games

Feel free to join mine mate.