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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [PERMA BAN] K

Postby greenoaks on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:54 pm

D4 Damager wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
D4 Damager wrote:Hey greenoaks, did you really just go into the Cheating and Abuse forum and argue there is no point complaining about abuse? The clue is in the title. Maybe next you should go to the Map Foundry and say there is no point designing maps?

too late, i already do.

Well, then at least you are consistent I suppose :-)

i'm not against people reporting others it is just that people's skin has become too thin. toughen up, use Foe, mute their comments. there are several things you can do instead of crying that someone used some bad words.

using foul language in the forum is not permitted but it is in a game. so mute them and whip their butts.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby KoolBak on Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:00 pm

Good point....one I took to heart the first time I met that jackwagon....ol Davey's been on my foe list forever :lol:

Of course.....let's see....I played him....hated him.....then got diagnosed with skin cancer. Maybe he's worse that I thought :shock:
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby D4 Damager on Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:15 pm

greenoaks wrote:i'm not against people reporting others it is just that people's skin has become too thin. toughen up, use Foe, mute their comments. there are several things you can do instead of crying that someone used some bad words.

using foul language in the forum is not permitted but it is in a game. so mute them and whip their butts.

greenoaks, I'm sorry but I don't agree with your comments at all (1), and I also don't think this is the right place to discuss it (2). I'll give some replies anyway since you spent time to make your comments.

Dealing with point 2 first (and going back to my original comment to you), if you really think that people should not complain and should have a thicker skin, then post a discussion item in General Discussion to that effect. Given that I have already decided to make a complaint, and I have done it in a forum designed for people to complain in such a manner, your comments are not really constructive or relevant here. If you don't like people complaining, don't read this forum (or even make new topics in it, which I see you have done and which makes you seem like a hypocrite, to be honest).

On point 1, I really don't understand what your central argument is. You acknowledge that some communication is "A Bad Thing", since you think it is necessary to Foe people, so I think what you are arguing is that you choose to do nothing about abusive people other than Foeing them, and if it's good enough for you then it should be good enough for everyone else too. Well, those people are not you and that is a weak argument. Maybe you should try to think about their reasons instead of just arguing with them on impulse. Or at the very least not interfere.

As BigTom mentioned, it would be a shame if some 8-year-old kid came on here as their first experience of board gaming and got this guy wishing cancer on them or their relatives or whatever. Or maybe some older person who hasn't grown up with the internet and doesn't understand flaming/baiting and takes them at face value. You don't have to be thin-skinned to care about this stuff and if no-one does anything, how will the situation ever improve? This is actually a much wider social issue about the internet and what it has become, but I'm digressing now so I will stop.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby akabob2 on Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:40 pm

I can get very rude and foul mouthed in a game where i have to try and keep myself in check but for someone to wish someone a slow miserable death or a family member the same is beyond over the line. To even defend this guy is almost stepping in his foot steps.
How can anyone wish cancer or any kind of sickness or harm on a family member/friend. My wife is very sick from a mass growing in
her head at a young age with 4 kids and I take it personal not because we are going through it our selfs but because this guy has been approached with his attitude and says he does not care. I do not know of one organization on or off the web - game or not game that would tolerate this BS. For someone to wish that on anyone over a game is exactly the reason why it needs to be dealt with.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Symmetry on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:32 am

Aye, this is clearly abuse.

AndyDufresne wrote:As mentioned earlier Conquer Club takes a fairly liberal approach to what is said in Game Chats, but there are some deeds that should be dealt with by a moderator. If you encounter any of these violations, please open an Abuse Complaint in the Cheating & Abuse Forum.

Spamming/Trolling
Repeatedly posting the same or nonsense comments in the chat, especially if the person is not playing in the game.
Posting comments that violate the Spamming and Trolling rules from the Forum Guidelines.

Harassing
Banter and some trash talking IS allowed in the Game Chats, provided it doesn't cross some specific lines.
While you might find some game chat disagreeable, uncouth, and boorish, cursing and using foul language may not be a breach of our Guidelines. Try kindly asking them to stop or ignoring them using your Foes List.
That said, what is not allowed is any form of bigotry, cyber-bullying/harassment or those extremes outlined in the Forum Guidelines. Please report any such comments that you find offensive.

Rule Enforcement
Breaking the Game Chat rules will typically earn you a warning for your first offense.
Continually disregarding the rules will earn some time away ranging from short vacations to permanent bans depending on the nature and number of the violations.

Above all, Conquer Club is a casual gaming site for world domination. Use the game chat to strategically annihilate your opponents or to enjoy a casual conversation over a virtual cup of coffee (or tea).


http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7785#p2865163
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Edric Wolfswift on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:52 am

I believe the following passage from the Guidelines applies to David Staten and I believe many people will agree:
"Remember: Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable, you're going to be removed from it. It's that simple."
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Symmetry on Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:11 am

Edric Wolfswift wrote:I believe the following passage from the Guidelines applies to David Staten and I believe many people will agree:
"Remember: Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable, you're going to be removed from it. It's that simple."


Aye, and this is hardly his first time.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=169893

BGtheBrain wrote:David Staten has been permanently forum banned from CC.
This was his 3rd offense for bigotry.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Edric Wolfswift on Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:16 am

I think its time for a website ban... Enough is enough
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby DJPatrick on Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:20 am

You are kidding right...this lynch mob is still howling for blood? NOT against site rules...black and white and writ large...Offensive asshole are just that...assholes...but if you want to practice eugenics and make the world a more comfy, cuddly place perhaps you guys are on the wrong site....grow some
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Shannon Apple on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:27 am

DJPatrick wrote:You are kidding right...this lynch mob is still howling for blood? NOT against site rules...black and white and writ large...Offensive asshole are just that...assholes...but if you want to practice eugenics and make the world a more comfy, cuddly place perhaps you guys are on the wrong site....grow some




DJPatrick, do you think it' acceptable to tell someone that you wish them dead? I hope you don't. I know personally, I have been desensitised to a lot on the internet, because I accept that humans can be a pretty rotten species, but there has to be a limit on how far it goes.

Throwing a few curse words and telling someone they are a f'n moron is an acceptable level of rudeness, but this, lol, he at the very least requires an official warning for it if it's the first time he's been reported. It goes beyond simple anger over a game, he is intentionally being a jackhole.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Just_essence on Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:02 pm

Actually it is. Flaming and cyber-bullying. Doesn't just have to be bigotry.
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Re: David Staten, disproportionately offensive [pending] KRK

Postby Karl_R_Kroenen on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:05 pm

Upon detailed review of the accused lengthy prior offenses, it was deemed that the accused be granted a Perma Ban

We are fairly liberal about language for the most part but when you receive warning after warning, ban after ban and the message doesn't sink in, it is time to find a new website.

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