nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

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nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby afroaction on Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Accused:

RareWhiteGorilla

nbski22



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis?
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 12517298
11 rounds nbski22 only attacked RareWhiteGorilla twice to gain his bonus

Game 12454920

6 rounds nbski22 only deploys 9 men and eliminates RareWhiteGorilla, so basically he suicides himself for the easy kill to gain cards for his buddy.


Game 12107598

14 rounds, here RareWhiteGorilla couldn't help his buddy much because he got eliminated by BriansMom from the game in round - 13

Game 11920347
here again, in this game they rarely attack each other just to gain a bonus both pick on the 3rd player.

Game 12539116

In this 3 man assassin game Blue (RareWhiteGorilla) was my target, (RareWhiteGorilla) had (nbski22) Green for his target, and (nbski22) was my assassin. Round one they both blitz me making it virtually impossible to get to my target. Only after I complained to blue for this after 3 or 4 rounds of this that he started to attack his target and sort left me alone. But yet he not break any of nbski22's bonus when he had the chance and clearing a path to me.


Comments: I have shown 5 examples, there might be more? of them clearly teaming up together to each of them using cheap tactics for them to gain the advantage. It's obvious they know each other, because they played several team games together. If you look at the game logs, you see them taking turns and logging on and off moments apart, which seems very suspicious too. Worth taking a look in my books. Thanks for your time.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Postby Symmetry on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:42 pm

BriansMom

Probably another player to look at with this one.

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The accounts are very similar.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Postby king achilles on Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:39 am

12517298
red was a hardly a factor in this game.

12454920
This is basically seeing what you want to see.
When they don't attack one another, it's suspicious. When one of them eliminates the other, you still suspect something is wrong.

12107598
Just the same as above.

11920347
They did attacked each other in a 'normal way' as opposed to what you claim as rarely.

12539116
The same as what I said in the 2nd and 3rd game you mentioned here. Although I can agree that there seems to be some suspicious activity between them and that that they look like real life friends, which includes BriansMom, we still don't have enough right now to fully validate a secret alliance with these games. This is noted for future reference.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby afroaction on Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:05 am

sounds fare King, but I have a feeling that if they continue their tactics, it won't be long for someone to report them and they will be caught sooner then Later.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby nbski22 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:21 pm

I guess I'll get on here to defend myself because afroaction when you have an axe to grind you really put a lot of effort into it. RareWhiteGorilla and Brian's Mom and myself are all friends in "real life" (Thanks King for bringing some logical arguments into this) We play probably 80% of our games together because its enjoyable to play with friends that you used to go to college with (we are now spread out in the country) For every time that you accused me of "teaming" with RareWhiteGorilla I can find 10 examples of killing him in games.

1. I don't take losing as a personal attack so I don't care if my "real life friends" kill me in games....its just a game.
2. Its not unfair to play with people you know and play the game well, Thus, me winning the game you are whining about.
3. I sound like a broken record here but YOU were my target in assassin and when you dont get spoils, controlling a region was the most important facet of a small map like the one we played.

Be kind to people Afroaction and more people will enjoy playing with you.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby BriansMom on Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:38 pm

(I had been alerted to this thread and thought I should also respond)

King Achilles,

1) Nbski, Gorilla, and I like playing games together and are friends. We are not the same person. We attack each other as much as anyone else as you saw. I have played in one or two games with Afroaction and since I didn't do what he wanted me to do, he began becoming verbally abusive in the chat and gave me a poor rating.

2) I originally thought Afroaction was a young teenage kid that hadn't learned to play well with others since he immediately started throwing out all sorts of vitriolic expressions and threats when things began to not go his way. I can see by the extent he has tried to take this that he has some sort of highly vindictive personality as evidenced by what he has said, the time he has taken to try to personally attack others, and his overall demeanor. Seeing as how he is an adult (according to his profile), he needs to start acting like one even in a digital setting.

3) Afroaction: Take a chill pill. Be positive, optimistic, less antagonistic thinking the world is out to get you. I am sure you are probably a nice guy in person so take that into your games. Most importantly, remember this is just a game, nothing more. We have nothing against you personally and are just here to have a good time.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby afroaction on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:16 pm

If you're not multis then why you both post the exact same post excalty moments apart?
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby afroaction on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:16 pm

nbski22 wrote:I guess I'll get on here to defend myself because afroaction when you have an axe to grind you really put a lot of effort into it. RareWhiteGorilla and Brian's Mom and myself are all friends in "real life" (Thanks King for bringing some logical arguments into this) We play probably 80% of our games together because its enjoyable to play with friends that you used to go to college with (we are now spread out in the country) For every time that you accused me of "teaming" with RareWhiteGorilla I can find 10 examples of killing him in games.

1. I don't take losing as a personal attack so I don't care if my "real life friends" kill me in games....its just a game.
2. Its not unfair to play with people you know and play the game well, Thus, me winning the game you are whining about.
3. I sound like a broken record here but YOU were my target in assassin and when you dont get spoils, controlling a region was the most important facet of a small map like the one we played.

Be kind to people Afroaction and more people will enjoy playing with you.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby afroaction on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:17 pm

BriansMom wrote:(I had been alerted to this thread and thought I should also respond)

King Achilles,

1) Nbski, Gorilla, and I like playing games together and are friends. We are not the same person. We attack each other as much as anyone else as you saw. I have played in one or two games with Afroaction and since I didn't do what he wanted me to do, he began becoming verbally abusive in the chat and gave me a poor rating.

2) I originally thought Afroaction was a young teenage kid that hadn't learned to play well with others since he immediately started throwing out all sorts of vitriolic expressions and threats when things began to not go his way. I can see by the extent he has tried to take this that he has some sort of highly vindictive personality as evidenced by what he has said, the time he has taken to try to personally attack others, and his overall demeanor. Seeing as how he is an adult (according to his profile), he needs to start acting like one even in a digital setting.

3) Afroaction: Take a chill pill. Be positive, optimistic, less antagonistic thinking the world is out to get you. I am sure you are probably a nice guy in person so take that into your games. Most importantly, remember this is just a game, nothing more. We have nothing against you personally and are just here to have a good time.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:21 pm

Hmm, even after they changed it, the messages were oddly similar.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby nbski22 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:35 pm

afroaction wrote:If you're not multis then why you both post the exact same post excalty moments apart?


Very simple answer to your question: When Brian's Mom saw that you were picking on me in a forum he sent me a text and said, take a look at whats being said about you.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby macbone on Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:09 am

If they were multis, why would they post right after each other?

Nbski doesn't like using apostrophes (its instead of it's, whats instead of what's), and he skips using punctuation in a lot of his sentences, particularly before and after parentheses. He also likes run-on sentences.

Brian's Mom uses apostrophes correctly, and even though he/she uses complex sentences, they're generally correctly punctuated, even when using parentheses.

I guess they COULD be multis, but it looks unlikely from their writing samples. That's just me, though.
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Postby Symmetry on Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:11 am

macbone wrote:If they were multis, why would they post right after each other?

Nbski doesn't like using apostrophes (its instead of it's, whats instead of what's), and he skips using punctuation in a lot of his sentences, particularly before and after parentheses. He also likes run-on sentences.

Brian's Mom uses apostrophes correctly, and even though he/she uses complex sentences, they're generally correctly punctuated, even when using parentheses.

I guess they COULD be multis, but it looks unlikely from their writing samples. That's just me, though.


Posting the same message under two different accounts is a tad suspect.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby BriansMom on Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:09 am

I can't help but laugh at this whole thread. Let me counter by accusing Symmetry and Afroaction of being "multis" just for kicks and giggles.

1) They both are paranoid, re-quote what everyone says, are poor sports, and both take this game too seriously. Sounds like the same guy to me.

2) The word symmetry means "The quality of being made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis." If that name doesn't out you as a "multi" I don't know what would because you seem like you are just an exact similar part facing Afroaction across the axis of the digital world. Boom goes the dynamite.

3) According to jdw35 (Someone I don't know at all, but who has instantly gained some respect in my book), he thinks symmetry "trolls." Not sure what it means, but it doesn't sound good chap. Please note the exhibit of comments from jdw35 on Symmetry's wall as evidence even going as far as to quote this ridiculous thread that I am only indulging in because I am bored at work right now:

"lol im not back pedaling at all. lets look at this one for example. why would you even post in this one? viewtopic.php?f=239&t=188285

"I dont have to explain lol you know you troll. its no biggie, just sayin i dont like players like you."

"Closed C&A forums. every topic that has nothing to do with you, you put your 2 cents in no matter what. just sayin."

4) Thank you Macbone for clearly seeing that my friend and I are two different people. You are a harbinger of common sense to this conversation. Also, thank you jdw35 if you see this to point out Symmetry's "trolling" ways. I don't care too much for his virtual presence either although I am sure he is an alright guy in person. I have alerted that big Rare White Gorilla of all this funny business so he might comment on here as well.

....But of course he is a "multi" too and we are living in the Matrix, Neo.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby BriansMom on Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:10 am

I can't help but laugh at this whole thread. Let me counter by accusing Symmetry and Afroaction of being "multis" just for kicks and giggles.

1) They both are paranoid, re-quote what everyone says, are poor sports, and both take this game too seriously. Sounds like the same guy to me.

2) The word symmetry means "The quality of being made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis." If that name doesn't out you as a "multi" I don't know what would because you seem like you are just an exact similar part facing Afroaction across the axis of the digital world. Boom goes the dynamite.

3) According to jdw35 (Someone I don't know at all, but who has instantly gained some respect in my book), he thinks symmetry "trolls." Not sure what it means, but it doesn't sound good chap. Please note the exhibit of comments from jdw35 on Symmetry's wall as evidence even going as far as to quote this ridiculous thread that I am only indulging in because I am bored at work right now:

"lol im not back pedaling at all. lets look at this one for example. why would you even post in this one? viewtopic.php?f=239&t=188285

"I dont have to explain lol you know you troll. its no biggie, just sayin i dont like players like you."

"Closed C&A forums. every topic that has nothing to do with you, you put your 2 cents in no matter what. just sayin."

4) Thank you Macbone for clearly seeing that my friend and I are two different people. You are a harbinger of common sense to this conversation. Also, thank you jdw35 if you see this to point out Symmetry's "trolling" ways. I don't care too much for his virtual presence either although I am sure he is an alright guy in person. I have alerted that big Rare White Gorilla of all this funny business so he might comment on here as well.

....But of course he is a "multi" too and we are living in the Matrix, Neo.
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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby Symmetry on Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:14 am

BriansMom wrote:I can't help but laugh at this whole thread. Let me counter by accusing Symmetry and Afroaction of being "multis" just for kicks and giggles.

1) They both are paranoid, re-quote what everyone says, are poor sports, and both take this game too seriously. Sounds like the same guy to me.

2) The word symmetry means "The quality of being made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis." If that name doesn't out you as a "multi" I don't know what would because you seem like you are just an exact similar part facing Afroaction across the axis of the digital world. Boom goes the dynamite.


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Re: nbski22 & RareWhiteGorilla = Secret Diplomacy [noted]

Postby deathcomesrippin on Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:56 am

I'm just going to go ahead and lock this one.

In the future, I will be handing out disciplinary warnings and/or forum bans depending on the scale for all C&A reports that turn into these kind of back and forth battles. This has happened far too often for my liking. Limit your posts to relevant information, if you defend yourself do so then leave. All of these personal attacks and asides and commentary on other posts are unneeded and unwanted by our staff. Friendly warning to all in this thread: we are not the GD, OT, or any other forums. We don't need personal posts or any kind of discussion on things other than the cases.
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