Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2 Multi?[cleared]

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Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2 Multi?[cleared]

Postby delahoc on Mon May 27, 2013 3:31 am

Accused:

Smythwick
Smythwick2

The accused are suspected of:

Possibly Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 12782703

Comments:
I could be totally wrong. I mean, they attack each other. But surely these player names cry out to be looked at more closely ...
They've played a few games together, but they haven't only played each other. Perhaps if they are merely related they just need someone to suggest that one of them choose another name.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon May 27, 2013 9:25 am

It looks to be just a coincidence, but I could be wrong. The two seem to have different playing abilities, sometimes they team together and other times compete against each other. The likelyhood of them being relatives/ at least familiar with each other is higher though, since in one game #1 referred to #2 by first name basis.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Mon May 27, 2013 8:15 pm

problem solved
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Mon May 27, 2013 9:29 pm

How so?
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Tue May 28, 2013 6:34 pm

posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Symmetry on Wed May 29, 2013 3:28 am

Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby ubcman64 on Wed May 29, 2013 9:12 am

Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


that's absurd......you should be able to play against family members as long as you aren't ganging up on others, which doesn't seem to be the case. it's a father and son enjoying a game together. let it be.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Shannon Apple on Wed May 29, 2013 11:43 am

ubcman64 wrote:that's absurd......you should be able to play against family members as long as you aren't ganging up on others, which doesn't seem to be the case. it's a father and son enjoying a game together. let it be.

Yep, they appear to be playing fairly. I tend to agree.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby betiko on Wed May 29, 2013 1:54 pm

Yup they seem to play fair. I think there should be something to avoid multiplayer games for people really close.. I mean it should still be allowed but people should try and avoid it (unless they know well more than one other player in it). I mean you necesairly are biaised when you are about to lose, you will tend to make it easier for your familly/friend most of the time. Playing team games together or 1v1 ain t gonna hurt.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby patrickaa317 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:42 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


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Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


Are you joking? As long as there is no sign of teaming up (which there isn't) they should be able to play together as much as they want. There is no rule that says "thou shall not playeth one that you knoweth in real life"
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby espana1155 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:19 am

i am playing in a game with the smythwick boys at the mo.[12782611]they have not attacked each other yet.but it does seem a bit sus,as 1 is in oz breaking north,and the other is in africa,breaking out to europe and s-america.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:30 am

In my game, one was in africa, with all his troops attacking me north and east. Meanwhile, he left 1 on Dakar, leaving africa undefended against the other one in sao paulo. 1 vs 1 and neither attacked the other. Now *that* is sus - stinks of SD.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Tenebrus on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:39 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


Are you joking? As long as there is no sign of teaming up (which there isn't) they should be able to play together as much as they want. There is no rule that says "thou shall not playeth one that you knoweth in real life"

Except Kiron/xiangwang.

I don't think people who know each other very well should be playing together. At the least, the other players can never be sure there's no collusion, and you certainly can't be sure that no indirect advantage is gained (e.g. by knowing when the turns of another player are likely in a freestyle 24hr game, or by getting a look at other sections of the map in a foggy game by seeing the screen of the other player).

It starts out innocuous, but can quickly become a total minefield. Much better that close friends/relatives don't play against each other - at least not in multiplayer games. Play 1v1 against each other sure, play as team-mates, sure but anything else is very uncomfortable IMO.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:15 am

for the love of god, can we just close this already? its obvious what should happen. CLEARED
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Smythwick on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:19 pm

I am Not a Cheater! Nor is My Father!! We're paying Customers just like everyone else. Soo my Dad made a mistake and choose the Wrong Handle... We've Never Cheated and Never been Cheaters!! We Bleed Integrity!! Duty!! Responsibility!! Honor!! Courage!! You're a just a Bad SPORT!! Can't believe you brought this Drama on my Dad and I. I'm in the Military and Deploy alot!! This our way of hanging with each other because we don't get to see each other much!! It's Cry Babies like you that Spoil this Game for Everyone Else!! Can't just take it like a Good Sport!! WOW!! WE BOTH PLAY FOR KEEPS!! Nothing like messing with a Good thing between a Father and Son!! You delahoc are a disgrace!! Be a Man and ask someone something instead of a Coward!!
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