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Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2 Multi?[cleared]

Postby delahoc on Mon May 27, 2013 3:31 am

Accused:

Smythwick
Smythwick2

The accused are suspected of:

Possibly Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 12782703

Comments:
I could be totally wrong. I mean, they attack each other. But surely these player names cry out to be looked at more closely ...
They've played a few games together, but they haven't only played each other. Perhaps if they are merely related they just need someone to suggest that one of them choose another name.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Crazyirishman on Mon May 27, 2013 9:25 am

It looks to be just a coincidence, but I could be wrong. The two seem to have different playing abilities, sometimes they team together and other times compete against each other. The likelyhood of them being relatives/ at least familiar with each other is higher though, since in one game #1 referred to #2 by first name basis.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Mon May 27, 2013 8:15 pm

problem solved
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Mon May 27, 2013 9:29 pm

How so?
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Tue May 28, 2013 6:34 pm

posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Symmetry on Wed May 29, 2013 3:28 am

Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby ubcman64 on Wed May 29, 2013 9:12 am

Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


that's absurd......you should be able to play against family members as long as you aren't ganging up on others, which doesn't seem to be the case. it's a father and son enjoying a game together. let it be.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Shannon Apple on Wed May 29, 2013 11:43 am

ubcman64 wrote:that's absurd......you should be able to play against family members as long as you aren't ganging up on others, which doesn't seem to be the case. it's a father and son enjoying a game together. let it be.

Yep, they appear to be playing fairly. I tend to agree.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby betiko on Wed May 29, 2013 1:54 pm

Yup they seem to play fair. I think there should be something to avoid multiplayer games for people really close.. I mean it should still be allowed but people should try and avoid it (unless they know well more than one other player in it). I mean you necesairly are biaised when you are about to lose, you will tend to make it easier for your familly/friend most of the time. Playing team games together or 1v1 ain t gonna hurt.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby patrickaa317 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:42 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


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Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


Are you joking? As long as there is no sign of teaming up (which there isn't) they should be able to play together as much as they want. There is no rule that says "thou shall not playeth one that you knoweth in real life"
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby espana1155 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:19 am

i am playing in a game with the smythwick boys at the mo.[12782611]they have not attacked each other yet.but it does seem a bit sus,as 1 is in oz breaking north,and the other is in africa,breaking out to europe and s-america.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:30 am

In my game, one was in africa, with all his troops attacking me north and east. Meanwhile, he left 1 on Dakar, leaving africa undefended against the other one in sao paulo. 1 vs 1 and neither attacked the other. Now *that* is sus - stinks of SD.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Tenebrus on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:39 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


Are you joking? As long as there is no sign of teaming up (which there isn't) they should be able to play together as much as they want. There is no rule that says "thou shall not playeth one that you knoweth in real life"

Except Kiron/xiangwang.

I don't think people who know each other very well should be playing together. At the least, the other players can never be sure there's no collusion, and you certainly can't be sure that no indirect advantage is gained (e.g. by knowing when the turns of another player are likely in a freestyle 24hr game, or by getting a look at other sections of the map in a foggy game by seeing the screen of the other player).

It starts out innocuous, but can quickly become a total minefield. Much better that close friends/relatives don't play against each other - at least not in multiplayer games. Play 1v1 against each other sure, play as team-mates, sure but anything else is very uncomfortable IMO.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Frox333 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:15 am

for the love of god, can we just close this already? its obvious what should happen. CLEARED
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Postby Smythwick on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:19 pm

I am Not a Cheater! Nor is My Father!! We're paying Customers just like everyone else. Soo my Dad made a mistake and choose the Wrong Handle... We've Never Cheated and Never been Cheaters!! We Bleed Integrity!! Duty!! Responsibility!! Honor!! Courage!! You're a just a Bad SPORT!! Can't believe you brought this Drama on my Dad and I. I'm in the Military and Deploy alot!! This our way of hanging with each other because we don't get to see each other much!! It's Cry Babies like you that Spoil this Game for Everyone Else!! Can't just take it like a Good Sport!! WOW!! WE BOTH PLAY FOR KEEPS!! Nothing like messing with a Good thing between a Father and Son!! You delahoc are a disgrace!! Be a Man and ask someone something instead of a Coward!!
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby Smythwick on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:27 pm

I don't Appreciate our Names being Tarnished in a Game like it has!! Not Cool espana1155!! Be A GOOD SPORT!!
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Postby rhp 1 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:28 pm

Smythwick wrote:I am Not a Cheater! Nor is My Father!! We're paying Customers just like everyone else. Soo my Dad made a mistake and choose the Wrong Handle... We've Never Cheated and Never been Cheaters!! We Bleed Integrity!! Duty!! Responsibility!! Honor!! Courage!! You're a just a Bad SPORT!! Can't believe you brought this Drama on my Dad and I. I'm in the Military and Deploy alot!! This our way of hanging with each other because we don't get to see each other much!! It's Cry Babies like you that Spoil this Game for Everyone Else!! Can't just take it like a Good Sport!! WOW!! WE BOTH PLAY FOR KEEPS!! Nothing like messing with a Good thing between a Father and Son!! You delahoc are a disgrace!! Be a Man and ask someone something instead of a Coward!!




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TAKE THAT YA FILTHY WHORE!


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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby smythwick2 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:03 pm

Thanks to all the investigators and fellow players who seem to know it is a Game and can see the evidence that there is no collusion.

To delahoc, in the instance you are referring. there never was 1v1 it was my 64 vs his 100+ after a turn in escalating btw, and he defeated me moved 54 into Sao Paulo, i was able to turn in right after that and return fire my 90+ against his 54. but you cant see that in fog. all your premise/assumption/ and deduction are and were totally wrong.
To the administrators, if the suggestion offered by one of the respondents : to change my name, can be arranged, I would gladly. However the 'curiousness' of our names would go away, but our familial bond would not and then the opponents wouldnt know it!! so is it better to have the apprehension or not? I cannot answer that.

to espana1155, it is a no spoil contest, you always have to guard your borders, which by the latest attack by you: I failed miserably. prior to that, while trying to work north, protect my eastern border (somewhat), and seem truce-like with pink --- until he attacked me profusely. I retaliated in kind and was back to attacking north and protecting east. but maybe not being a strategist, you wouldnt understand that.

To all, I retired from the USMC and my amazing son is in the Army. as he mentioned we see each other seldom and this is our recreation time. thanks to those again that saw fit to defend our games and fun, and shame on you folks that take this so seriously that a loss causes you to be so despicable.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:13 pm

Tenebrus wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Frox333 wrote:posted a day or two ago : 2013-05-27 11:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange


2013-05-22 21:34:22 - delahoc: gl all
2013-05-23 21:29:42 - delahoc: lost every roll against green then, and all against singles.
2013-05-26 22:00:08 - delahoc: Had enough of these shitty dice. Lost 8 to 0 then.
2013-05-26 22:00:44 - delahoc: Truce green?
2013-05-27 09:28:07 - delahoc: I guess not. Curious names, btw ...
2013-05-27 17:28:22 - smythwick2: father (smythwick2), son (smythwick). Jr invited and threw down the gauntlet. of course I had to accept and take up the challange
2013-05-28 02:17:06 - Smythwick: Sorry Red, don't really read the Game Chat much.... How long will this Truce last?
2013-05-28 02:18:25 - Smythwick: I won't hit you this round, but what are the Stipulations with this Truce??
2013-05-28 03:28:29 - delahoc: That was over a day ago ...
2013-05-28 14:03:59 - Smythwick: Okie Dokie!!
2013-05-28 21:15:02 - delahoc: crap dice yet again. lost 10 to 2 against blue.
2013-05-28 22:40:01 - Smythwick: Damn It!!
2013-05-29 08:37:49 - delahoc: You're not going to use that me are you green?


Game 12782703

Aye, at least they shouldn't be playing together, let alone inviting each other into three player games.


Are you joking? As long as there is no sign of teaming up (which there isn't) they should be able to play together as much as they want. There is no rule that says "thou shall not playeth one that you knoweth in real life"

Except Kiron/xiangwang.

I don't think people who know each other very well should be playing together. At the least, the other players can never be sure there's no collusion, and you certainly can't be sure that no indirect advantage is gained (e.g. by knowing when the turns of another player are likely in a freestyle 24hr game, or by getting a look at other sections of the map in a foggy game by seeing the screen of the other player).

It starts out innocuous, but can quickly become a total minefield. Much better that close friends/relatives don't play against each other - at least not in multiplayer games. Play 1v1 against each other sure, play as team-mates, sure but anything else is very uncomfortable IMO.


Maybe I'm different but I'd rather win against the people I know than some random online people I don't know. If anything, I'm personally more aggressive against the players I do know in RL.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:06 pm

Omg, talk about an over-reaction.
a) I didn't report anyone for cheating. I pointed out that the names were similar, added that the play at that point seemed fair, and suggested such similar names probably needed looking into. I even acknowledged the possibility of a relationship. Read it - it's still up there.
b) i don't mind losing. Happens all the time. I take it gracefully when I lose in a fair fight.
c) then, as I pointed out above, we had the Dakar/Sao Paulo undeclared nonaggression. I know what I saw, and the log confirmed it.
d) I've also not called anyone names, nor ranted. You had that all to yourself.
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Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[cleared/noted]

Postby king achilles on Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:54 pm

This has gone long enough. As far as multis are concerned, these two are cleared. This report is still noted for reference in case they get reported in the future of being suspected of secretly favoring each other in their future games. Again, they are cleared as far as multis are concerned.
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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2. Multi?[SN]

Postby delahoc on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:12 pm

rhp 1 wrote:
Smythwick wrote:I am Not a Cheater! Nor is My Father!! We're paying Customers just like everyone else. Soo my Dad made a mistake and choose the Wrong Handle... We've Never Cheated and Never been Cheaters!! We Bleed Integrity!! Duty!! Responsibility!! Honor!! Courage!! You're a just a Bad SPORT!! Can't believe you brought this Drama on my Dad and I. I'm in the Military and Deploy alot!! This our way of hanging with each other because we don't get to see each other much!! It's Cry Babies like you that Spoil this Game for Everyone Else!! Can't just take it like a Good Sport!! WOW!! WE BOTH PLAY FOR KEEPS!! Nothing like messing with a Good thing between a Father and Son!! You delahoc are a disgrace!! Be a Man and ask someone something instead of a Coward!!




hey delahoc...

TAKE THAT YA FILTHY WHORE!


LOL


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Re: Coincidental names? Smythwick and Smythwick2 Multi?[clea

Postby king achilles on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:16 pm

I'm locking this so you kids can flame/bait each other elsewhere. Maybe in Mars.
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