4 Star Meats [17 March 2013] v29 pg40

[The Bison King]

Please please please do continue! Keep the dream alive!

[dana1971]

Hi all,

It's been a crazy summer for me but no that it's over I am ready to start working on the cow again.

Still rough around the edges, but I want to nail down the game play before I make it all pretty.

I've taken on board most of the suggestions, dropped the loyalty points, and hopefully made the map more balanced.

Any suggestions on changing bonus numbers would be great.

Not sure about the colors, I'm thinking they may be to similar?
Also wonder if the rules are clear enough?

Click image to enlarge.

Anyway, still working on it.

Best Wishes,
Dana

[x-raider]

Yay!

[koontz1973]

[Moved]

Hi-dilly-ho, neighborinos! Back you go.

koontz

[ManBungalow]

Very nice update. Good to see you back also.

I have a few things to point out:

*how easy is it to read neutral player values on the special offer?
*the left legs don't have any region names - are we supposed to deduce the names of each part based on the matching component of the right legs?
*what's the point of the special offer? does it connect the tip/tongue/hoof regions?
*some of the bonuses do have similar colours, as you've acknowledged. go check out the hive map - in particular the honeycomb cluster naming system. i'm thinking that you could make one region name in each bonus stand out - perhaps by being bold. for instance, you could highlight the word 'crown' in the crown bonus.
*the left fore leg and plate bonus regions are too similar in colour to say that they are adjacent.

I look forward to seeing another update!

[isaiah40]

dana, can you please do your title in this format:
name of map [date] v1, pg(page that the most recent update is on)
i.e. 4 Star Meats [15 Sept 2012] v20 pg 26

[dana1971]

Thanks,

I changed the title, no problem.

[dana1971]

*how easy is it to read neutral player values on the special offer?

Guess I should change the background on that one.

*the left legs don't have any region names - are we supposed to deduce the names of each part based on the matching component of the right legs?

I will put them in, just want to make sure game play works first.

*what's the point of the special offer? does it connect the tip/tongue/hoof regions?

It does connect to everything on offer. i.e. hoofs, tongue, and tail tip. Guess I should make the rules more clear somewhere on the map.

*some of the bonuses do have similar colours, as you've acknowledged. go check out the hive map - in particular the honeycomb cluster naming system. i'm thinking that you could make one region name in each bonus stand out - perhaps by being bold. for instance, you could highlight the word 'crown' in the crown bonus.

Not a bad idea, I can try that.

Thanks.
Best Wishes,
Dana

[iancanton]

top side and back rib are already part of very difficult bonuses. move their stars to shell steak and top blade instead?

the standout gameplay feature on the map is the special offer. however, it will hardly be used at all because i don't see many players going through 5 killer neutral troops to break a +2 leg bonus, in which case the legs have only 1 region to defend in practice and are worth only a +1 bonus. if u make it 2 killer neutral troops instead of 5, then it's a different story, with the +2 leg bonuses being fully justified (except maybe for the shorter left fore leg, which is arguably a +1).

ian.

[AndyDufresne]

Cool to see this back in production.


--Andy

[dana1971]

top side and back rib are already part of very difficult bonuses. move their stars to shell steak and top blade instead?

OK will move them to Ox tail base, and Shell Steak. Going to leave it in the neck position.

the standout gameplay feature on the map is the special offer. however, it will hardly be used at all because i don't see many players going through 5 killer neutral troops to break a +2 leg bonus, in which case the legs have only 1 region to defend in practice and are worth only a +1 bonus. if u make it 2 killer neutral troops instead of 5, then it's a different story, with the +2 leg bonuses being fully justified (except maybe for the shorter left fore leg, which is arguably a +1).

I don't totally agree with no one going through the killer neutrals. Really depends on the game. Terminator for example, sometimes it's easier to go through a neutral than go through a bunch of large armies to get your target. I'd also say in long games when the numbers get high 5 troops won't mean much. Still, you're not the first person to say keep that number low so I'll lower it to 3.

Best Wishes,
Dana

[dana1971]

Here's the latest

Click image to enlarge.

Still need to clean up graphics around legs and hanging meat, but hopefully game play is looking better.

The following regions will start with neutrals.

Tenderloin: 2
Tri-Tip: 2
Special Offer: killer 3
4 Star Meats Logo: 3

Continent bonuses may need adjusted? What do you think?

Best Wishes,
Dana

[The Bison King]

I feel like it's there or just about there. You've been working on this a long time, and I feel like it's finally looking like it's ready to move forward. I'm really glad you've stuck with this.

[Flapcake]

I think that even though the colors are so close to each other have no bearing, because you can see what's what ... If you dont, get glasses

I also think that your super nice map is ready to move forward.

Thumbs up. Flaps

[AndyDufresne]

I feel like it's there or just about there. You've been working on this a long time, and I feel like it's finally looking like it's ready to move forward. I'm really glad you've stuck with this.

Agreed.


--Andy