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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby sannemanrobinson on Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:09 am

dana1971 wrote:Hi all,
koontz1973 wrote:This map as of right now is too large. With some moving, you can crop a lot of.
Company logo chalk board - top right.
Auto deploy specials - top left.
Prices and impassables move in a tad. This alone will let you crop right down to the frame. Make it the same size as the top part of the frame and you have a winner.

Done
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There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [20 October 2012] v18 pg 28

Postby dana1971 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:46 pm

sannemanrobinson wrote:There can still be a lot of space saving. If autodeply specials moves under impassibles (fat barrier) then 4 star meats can be placed on the left, possibly in two lines or rotated 30 degrees. The blackboard about the 4 stars company logo could be handwriting just like is done under special offer.

Or Special offer could be under the Ox tail tip and the company logo at middle.
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Thanks for the comment sannemanrobinson.

At one point during themaps creation I did try some of your suggestions, but it looked unbalanced.
I felt the compositional elements needed a bit of room to breath on the page.

I plan to implement the other changes this weekend.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:58 pm

Here it is again. It's time to play spot the difference. :)

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I believe I've fixed the spelling mistakes and Oxtail is one word after all so I changed that too.

Spot anything else?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:35 pm

Looking pretty good to me, nothing immediately jumps out. If anything does on a later look, I'll post something.

You should consider a series...4 Star Meats...and do a cannibal human next! ;) I kid, but good work.


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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby RedBaron0 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:19 pm

I forsee much colorblindness issues... hope I'm wrong. Lets see some numbers and the vischeck, please.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:59 am

Not sure what that means exactly but I'll look it up.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:33 am

dana1971 wrote:Not sure what that means exactly but I'll look it up.

Go into foundry tools. At the top you will see a colour blind testing website. If it is not working, use your gimp filters and grab a screen shot. This way we can see if their will be problems for colour blind players.

Also, bung 888s on the map of all 8 different colours to see if they stand out enough.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby RedBaron0 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:18 pm

what he said. ;)
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:41 pm

OK, here is a version of how the map is seen by a color blind person, created using that plugin I was pointed to.

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I can see the separation of the continents, but is there enough of a difference for your average CC player?

I've done the XML code because it seems the best way to get the color numbers in there. See the image below.

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Not sure how to get the XML code to pump out 888, but hopefully there is enough there to see if the official color numbers work.
After doing the XML I noticed that the shoulder has a lot of boarders so I'm thinking of upping the Chuck continent bonus to 4 instead of 3.

Have I passed the graphics stage? Should I alter the colors?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby soundman on Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:24 pm

You have a few numbers not lining up with the army circles. Plate, most of the Left Hind, and Brisket are a few that jumped out at me. Not sure if anyone else would care but that sort of thing annoys me. ;)
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:12 pm

dana1971 wrote:After doing the XML I noticed that the shoulder has a lot of boarders so I'm thinking of upping the Chuck continent bonus to 4 instead of 3.


Shoulder has a lot of borders, but neither Chuck nor Chuck Eye border any territories outside of the bonus zone. I think it should stay at 3.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby RedBaron0 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:21 pm

You're getting there on graphics, colors look good, I was surprised, with all the shades of red I was sure there was gonna be blending.

Super big thing you need to to first is make the small map. We'll make sure that's good and we'll go from there.

Oh... and why are the "N's" in the word "hind" in the bonus legend, backwards?
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby trinicardinal on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:21 am

RedBaron0 wrote:You're getting there on graphics, colors look good, I was surprised, with all the shades of red I was sure there was gonna be blending.

Super big thing you need to to first is make the small map. We'll make sure that's good and we'll go from there.

Oh... and why are the "N's" in the word "hind" in the bonus legend, backwards?



I'm amazed that there are enough clear and distinct shades of the same general colour to bring out fully in this map. nice graphics overall and I'm wondering id the backward N is meant to be a play on the Hind word as well? If it wasn't meant that way... consider leaving it? If meant to be so then well done!
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:04 pm

soundman wrote:You have a few numbers not lining up with the army circles. Plate, most of the Left Hind, and Brisket are a few that jumped out at me. Not sure if anyone else would care but that sort of thing annoys me. ;)

Dana, you can consider removing the army circles completely. None of them seem necessary, and you will not then need to spend time meticulously moving the coordinates around.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:19 pm

Not a bad idea removing the circles.

The backward N's are there because the lower case n appears in reverse with the font I'm using. I did think it may be ok to leave it reverse because it's the back legs but maybe that's just to clever for its own good?

No time to work on the map today, but I will remove the circles, and make a small version soon.

Leave the backward N's on Hind legs??? Anyone else have an opinion on that?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:44 pm

I was just wondering if it was a glitch or done on purpose. As long as no one else minds, and doesn't create any problems for folks whom English isn't their first language, then its fine.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [27 October 2012] v20 pg 29

Postby dana1971 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:41 pm

Thanks everyone,

I think I got everything. Here is a small and large version of the map, with and without numbers.
I know I'm not supposed to do this until after I receive a graphics sticker but I've also completed a XML code that has no obvious errors in it.
Should I upload it?

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Clean version:
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Let me know what you all think? Have i earned a graphics sticker?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [10 November 2012] v20 pg 30

Postby nolefan5311 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:59 pm

You can't upload the file in this forum (only when its moved to Final Forge), but you can PM the link to me if you want to and I can take a look at it.
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Re: 4 Star Meats [10 November 2012] v20 pg 30

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:46 pm

dana, I am going to ask for one last little crop. The top part of the frame is thinner than the sides or bottom. Can you crop the image down so they are all the same size. You will just need to move your 3 chalk boards in a tad.

Apart from that, post both sizes of map with 888s and the 3 colour blind tests. (These need to go into the first post as well).
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Re: 4 Star Meats [10 November 2012] v20 pg 30

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:18 am

Dana, a few things.

1 - The top left blackboard is not in the same perspective as the other two. You can see the inside of the right side of the frame, while on the other two you can see the bottom inside of the top part of the frame. These need to be viewed from the same perspective.
2 - The title I like, old west style while the rest of the map does say old west to me. Plus since I get the feeling of the old west, you can probably do away with the blackboard frames.
3 - The dividing lines on the blackboards, they look like they could be painted on. My suggestion would be to make them look like they are hand drawn on in chalk.
4 - This is just my personal opinion, the blackboards could use some chalk smudges like someone took a chalk eraser and erased the previous writing. Dirty up the blackboard a bit, not too much or else the text will be unreadable
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Re: 4 Star Meats [11 November 2012] v21 pg 30

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:04 am

Thanks for the comments, I did them all except for removing the frame on the chalkboards because I tried it and didn't like it.

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If this gets approved I'm guessing I'll need to send a clean version of the map?

What's next?

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Re: 4 Star Meats [10 November 2012] v20 pg 30

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:06 am

nolefan5311 wrote:You can't upload the file in this forum (only when its moved to Final Forge), but you can PM the link to me if you want to and I can take a look at it.


Thanks Nolefan,
I've had to crop the image more so my XML is going to need to be adjusted a bit. When and if the graphics get approved I'll adjust the XML file and PM it to you so you can have a look.

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Re: 4 Star Meats [11 November 2012] v21 pg 30

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:13 pm

I think we better throw out those last colorblind images. The meat looks brown and rancid! ;)

Keep up the good work, looking forward to this.


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Re: 4 Star Meats [11 November 2012] v21 pg 30

Postby ManBungalow on Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:11 pm

Less appealing maps than this have passed the graphics stage.

Can we move on now? I want to play this map already..
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Re: 4 Star Meats [11 November 2012] v21 pg 30

Postby anamainiacks on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:46 am

Small matter here, but I think you forgot to put the troops on the Company Logo itself.

My more pressing question is: is the Special Offer sticker supposed to border the Company Logo? Because you state that territories with the star on it border the Company Logo, and the Special Offer sticker happens to have 2 of those stars. It might be misleading if you don't mean for them to be connected (which as of now, I assume is the case).
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