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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/5

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Thu May 10, 2012 5:19 am

update
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu May 10, 2012 11:48 am

Once again, you need some kind of texture, imo.

Andyou should put something on the big map IDF like, "See Inset"
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Thu May 10, 2012 12:11 pm

Lancelot, sorry for the delay, been waiting on a size guideline from the boss, still not got one :roll: so you may need to change the size at some point. But here are my first general thoughts for you to look at and think about.

    Industrial Helix has asked for some texture, this is a wonderful idea. You can go for a plain simple paper texture so the map looks like it came from an atlas or something more exotic. But this will be a must have for the map. ;)
    Right now, your map is large, and it does not need to be. You have a lot of wasted space and with some jiggling around of things, you should be able to get this down to 900/900 easily.
    The Paris inset is out of scale. The army numbers for Paris and the suburbs are going to be to big for this. Make Paris a lot larger in the insert and give the 4 territs back to the map proper.
    Regional claims - these icons that cover the whole area will need rethinking. Right now, that cover territ names and confuse borders. Try to come up with a way to make these a lot more subtle.
    What are the foreign claims? Who are they?

That should keep you busy for a while. :D

This map is going to be great fun to play IMO and I look forward to sending you on your way soon.

Again, I need to ask who is Mishalexin this project? Is he just helping you or is he connected to the map in any way?
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Fri May 11, 2012 4:44 am

What about "texture" ??

Mishalex works with me on the map ;)
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Fri May 11, 2012 4:48 am

Right now, your map is just a flat colour, whilst nice, it makes the map look like an ordinary map. Giving it a light texture would really make it come alive.

When you fill in the form for the first post, you need to put his name in as well as yours. This is because the image belongs to you and the site needs to know because of copyright issues.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Fri May 11, 2012 5:19 am

Ok I just figured texture.

Thank you.

I'm on it early next week.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby arno30 on Thu May 17, 2012 7:21 am

quelques remarques:
-pour gagner de la place, le titre en haut à gauche et utiliser l'atlantique pour mettre tous les foreign et regional claim ensemble + l'explication des troupes deploy et la condition de victoire. peut être mettre l'inset idf en dessous du titre. En relevant les catalans et les basques, vous devriez pouvoir gagner de la place au sud et rendre plus lisible l'ensemble, sans qu'on ne doive regarder partout pour tout comprendre.
-suburb riots: pourquoi riots ? est-ce toujours nécessaire ? the three suburbs equals 3 bonus = hold the 3 suburbs for a +3 bonus. ça sonne mieux. à part ça, c'est pas un peu trop peu ?
- on comprend pas bien pour la corse. +2 ou 2+2 ? si vous le mettez dans régional claim, ne le remettez pas dans la petite carte je dirais (un peu de place gagné). et une tête de maures serait pas mal à mon avis !
- foreign claim, dans la légende: can only be assaulted from paris.
- il y a un bug au nord dans la manche

c'est pas mal du tout, ça me plait !!

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few things:
- to gain space in the south, you could put the title and the idf inset in the top left corner and use the atlantic space to put all the legends (foreign +regional claims + suburb riots + troop deploy explanation + victory conditions). put the southern foreign claims a bit higher. i would think that makes it easier to understand the way the map works.
- suburb riots: why riots still ? the three suburbs equals 3 bonus = hold the 3 suburbs for a +3 bonus. that sounds better. is +3 enough here ?
- the corse bonus is +2 or 2+2 ? i'd say, if you put it in the regional claim, there's no need to put it in the mini france map as well. you should gain some little space as well. plus i'd say a "tête de maures" would be great in the territ background.
- foreign claim, in the légend: can only be assaulted from paris.
- there's a bug in the north part of the channel.

that's it for now, but that's already great !
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:08 pm

Lancelot du Lac, any word on when the next update will be? I really want to get this moving along.
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:04 am

update tomorrow 14/06 ;)
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:43 am

it happens
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:23 am

When?
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:04 am

now, update done
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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:08 am

Lancelot du Lac, nice update. Now lets see, now that we have a summer and things will slow down if we can get this one moving a tad faster than the snails pace it has been going. ;)

This is all on the large image which needs to fit the 888s in. As you can see, Paris will not. As I said, you have room on the map to give the surrounding areas room on the map and have this inset only for Paris and the 3 suburbs.
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Same for Belfort. A simple redraw of the territ lines will give this small region size for its name and army numbers.
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A simple moving of this area and you can crop right up to the map itself and then you have no wasted space.
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Same for here.
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And here.
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This area looks bad because of the pattern on it. It is confusing and not needed. You have it all over the region and not in the disputed territ only. Try a subtle shading effect like natty has on Eurasia. Same goes for the other one like this.
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Please remember, geography has to come second to game play, but also size on this map needs to be condensed. If it can be made smaller. please do so. The simple crops and giving Paris the inset on its own will save you lots of space. Please look at other areas and see if it can be made smaller.

Looking forward to the next one.

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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby Lancelot du Lac on Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:08 pm

Thank you for your help koontz1973. I understand that I was moving like a snail, this time I went a little faster. ;)

Here is a new update (first post). Your comments?

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Re: FRANCE 2.0 - V3 - [10 mai 2012] pg 1/4

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:04 pm

lancelot, can you please post your updates on both the first page and the current last page. Also please update the title with the most recent update, the day and month it was done and what page the current update is on. This will help everyone out. Thank you.

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