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Re: Central Asia: -Struggle for Oil [01 Feb 2011]

Postby theBastard on Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:22 am

take your time to be healthy. I am looking forward on new supersized concept.
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Re: Central Asia: -Struggle for Oil [01 Feb 2011]

Postby ender516 on Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:39 pm

Best wishes for a speedy complete recovery, Rask!
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Re: [Abandoned] - Struggle for Oil

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:21 pm

The six months of vacation has expired, for this reason this topic is now labeled as [Abandoned]. If the original mapmaker wants to continue this map project it's fine but an update must provided. From this moment anyone else is free to take this project without the original mapmaker permission, but it has to be started from the scratch.

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Re: [Abandoned] - Struggle for Oil

Postby pamoa on Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:13 am

I'm back to save it

Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 isn't DEAD

based on a Raskholnikov idea
gameplay and graphics by pamoa
code by ender 516
A computer-generated briefing map for government officials dealing with the issue of oil supplies, transit and geopolitical rivalries connected with oil.
A complex CC map for anyone who loves large maps with a variety of bonus and target options and who are interested in real-life, current events will be eager to play.
Map Size wrote:89 territories
24 starting positions (8 capitals + 8 metropolises + 8 terrorists)
47 freely distributed territories
total 71 territories at start
18 neutrals (8 uprisings(1) + 4 key territories(3) + 5 sea/fleet(reset3) + al-mahdi(8))
Regions wrote:6 Eastern Europe territories
10 Russia territories
10 Kazakhstan territories
6 Turkey territories
3 Caucasus territories
4 Central Asia territories
10 China territories
10 Arab Peninsula territories
6 Iran territories
10 India territories
2 contested territories
3 seas
2 fleet
1 al-mahdi territory


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Re: [Abandoned] - Struggle for Oil

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:59 am

Moved back to the main foundry.

Pamoa, you wil continue this alone or Raskholnikov is still around?

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Re: Struggle for Oil

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:20 pm

This was one of the maps I was sad to see go - so glad its back.

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Re: Struggle for Oil

Postby ender516 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:59 pm

Man, I had a link to this map topic in my signature forever, and just took it out (less than 24 hours ago?). Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. :)
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Re: Struggle for Oil

Postby pamoa on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:52 pm

well thenobodies80
Raskholnikov didn't answered me when asked him if he was willing to continue
so I'm on my own now
I mean with the help of ender 516 for the code
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Re: Struggle for Oil

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:54 pm

omg!! I want to play this map! I'm so glad to see it is back into production.
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Re: Central Asia: -Struggle for Oil - REVISED 1 Feb 11 !

Postby pamoa on Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:09 am

MarshalNey p.10 on 03 Feb 2011, 21:28 wrote:OK, Rask, pamoa, you've been approved for the map to exceed standard size;
however, in the interests of keeping the map from becoming unnecessarily large (and scroll-happy),
we've decided to keep the size limits for The Struggle For Oil below the maximum.
So, 800x700 px for the small map, and 1000x 933 px for the large map are the new size limits for this map. Sound good?

I think the supersize stamp didn't exist at that time
maybe I should receive it just to be clear it was authorised
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:21 am

As per previous approval, this stamp makes it official!!
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby Gillipig on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:07 pm

Looks very promising! But here are some things to consider;
The legend is very cluttered at the moment so it's hard to get a sense of things. I suggest trying a different font and maybe increase the size of the text. There's also a lot going on in the map and you might have to reduce the number of special regions a bit for the sake of clarity. All and all I like it though :).
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:42 am

Gillipig wrote:Looks very promising! But here are some things to consider;
The legend is very cluttered at the moment so it's hard to get a sense of things. I suggest trying a different font and maybe increase the size of the text.
There's also a lot going on in the map and you might have to reduce the number of special regions a bit for the sake of clarity.
All and all I like it though :).
thanks for dropping
well this map is now going for Gameplay stamp so I wont comment the graphic issue now
but I'll keep your comment in mind
about the special bonus and regions
well the essence of the map is the complex situation in central Asia around oil supply
so we have a multi-layered bonus structure to reflect it
MULTI-LAYERED BONUS STRUCTURE
territorial conflict = normal regions' bonuses and contested territories
local economic power = capitals and metropoli
USA intervention power = US fleets on "request" of any local government
oil infrastructure = refineries and ports (tankers)
local political instability = uprisings
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 am

Is there anybody in there :?: :o :(
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby ender516 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:50 pm

I am very disappointed to see so little action here. It looks like it will be an uphill struggle to regain the interest this map had before its layoff.
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby Teflon Kris on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:13 pm

Cmon - gameplay feedback or stamp ;)
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby DiM on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:19 pm

DJ Teflon wrote:Cmon - gameplay feedback or stamp ;)

it doesn't really work like that :)

for example i can't give any pertinent gameplay feedback because the map is too disturbing to my eyes to be able to focus on analysing the gameplay.
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby cairnswk on Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:15 pm

not gameplay feedback...but colours...i can see what you are trying guys...and for someone like myself without CB limitations it doesn't look too bad, although i too like Dim find it a struggle to look at.
I have also just examined it for CB (D and P) and sorry...to me it doesn't pass in this respect. i don't know, but have you tried changing those white borders to black/shades of grey so it becomes less demanding on the eyes.

ON your sea Control legend....i think perhaps better would be -> reverts to 3 neutral at the start/beginning of your next turn...there is room enough in there.

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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:14 pm

DiM wrote:for example i can't give any pertinent gameplay feedback because the map is too disturbing to my eyes to be able to focus on analysing the gameplay.
so then
cairnswk wrote:...and for someone like myself without CB limitations it doesn't look too bad, although I too like Dim find it a struggle to look at.I have also just examined it for CB (D and P) and sorry...to me it doesn't pass in this respect.
no need of colours to read the map as regions' borders are marked by double line to differentiate it form simple territories borders and you have a minimap to read the bonuses
cairnswk wrote:I don't know, but have you tried changing those white borders to black/shades of grey so it becomes less demanding on the eyes.
I'll try something on next version but I really prefer to have some gamplay feedback before working more on graphics
cairnswk wrote:On your sea Control legend....i think perhaps better would be -> reverts to 3 neutral at the start/beginning of your next turn...there is room enough in there.
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby cairnswk on Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:48 pm

cairnswk wrote:...and for someone like myself without CB limitations it doesn't look too bad, although I too like Dim find it a struggle to look at.I have also just examined it for CB (D and P) and sorry...to me it doesn't pass in this respect.
no need of colours to read the map as regions' borders are marked by double line to differentiate it form simple territories borders and you have a minimap to read the bonuses

Ah pamoa, that reply doesn't make sense, if there is no need of colours, why have you used them? If you're going to have colour then make it functional for everyone.
I am well aware that regional borders are double lined..etc etc..what i am saying is that i too struggle with the overal colour scheme on my eyes, and that could be fixed by changing the colour of the border lines. i don't know. i will have to wait and see what yo-u come up with. :)
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Tue May 01, 2012 1:57 am

as I said I'll work on border colours
but I really need to have some comment on gameplay
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby swimmerdude99 on Thu May 03, 2012 10:10 am

The only thing i have to say right now is too many territs.... I think there need to be less.
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Thu May 03, 2012 1:05 pm

swimmerdude99 wrote:The only thing i have to say right now is too many territs.... I think there need to be less.
?!? It is intended to be a big map with a lot of territories
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby nolefan5311 on Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 pm

I will run some gameplay numbers over the next few days and get back to you.
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Re: Struggle for Oil: Central Asia 2020 [v.6small march25 p.

Postby pamoa on Thu May 10, 2012 1:47 pm

thanks for your help
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Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (2) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (3) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (4) Beta Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (1) Clan Achievement (8)
Map Contribution (3)

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