[Abandoned] - Epic Epoch

[DJ Teflon]

And like I said... there's no teleports on World 2.1, yet it works fine.

As I said, there are more routes around the map in 2.1 than this one, which is why movement might not be much of an issue on 2.1 but would on this.

[Victor Sullivan]

And like I said... there's no teleports on World 2.1, yet it works fine.

As I said, there are more routes around the map in 2.1 than this one, which is why movement might not be much of an issue on 2.1 but would on this.

Thank you!! That's what I've been trying to say! ED said himself the connections are Classic-based, not World 2.1 based. Heck, I'm the old dog, and I think it's time for new tricks. Why teach a new dog old tricks, when the new dog is capable of performing the new tricks?

[natty dread]

ED said himself the connections are Classic-based, not World 2.1 based.

That's. Not. The. Point.

Connections can be added to places where they are needed, but a generic teleport system sprinkled all over the map? I don't think it suits the theme of the map.

Let's try it this way. Why exactly do you people think that movement would be a problem on this map? What are the problem parts?

[MrBenn]

Bonus values should reflect the ease with which an area can be held/defended.

In classic, Oceania is an attractive start because it gives a good place to build an army; however, while South America is harder to hold it offers better opportunities to expand and collect more bonuses.

I'm not convinced that you necessarily need to add more connections (although it may transpire that some more connections would be beneficial) as long as the bonuses even out in such a way to make several strategies viable.

[lolkittens]

This looks awesome

[DJ Teflon]

Bonus values should reflect the ease with which an area can be held/defended.

Nice little corners have their overall bonus plus bonuses within them so have an overall bonus greater than they do in classicm, and therefore need to be harder to defend (and the Australia bonus is too easy in Classic anyway).

[Evil DIMwit]

Bonus values should reflect the ease with which an area can be held/defended.

Nice little corners have their overall bonus plus bonuses within them so have an overall bonus greater than they do in classicm, and therefore need to be harder to defend (and the Australia bonus is too easy in Classic anyway).

This is something I'd agree with, actually.

Suppose there was some significance to the river? Like, some territories can attack downriver, so that Ocean/Seascape have more entranceways?

[DJ Teflon]

Something like that would be cool - although I think we have more than just the 'Australia' corner issue here:

Take 'Africa'

Appropriately given the Oasis bonus system

29 regions, 6 places to defend, +21 doods per turn., attackable from 3 continents.

In Classic it has 6 regions, +3 doods and 3 defending points, attackable from 3 continents.

In W 2.1 it has 25 regions, +15 doods and 5 defending points. attackable from 3 sub-continents and Antartica (therefore, more-or-less a 4th (sub)continent).

Whilst adjusting values may help the defending-points-no.-regions-bonus-value ratio, continents would still not have enough close links to other continents in my view.

A river system would help, although, would it help link 'Africa' , 'Australia' and 'S America' ? Or maybe coastal ports would help?

[Victor Sullivan]

A river system would help, although, would it help link 'Africa' , 'Australia' and 'S America' ? Or maybe coastal ports would help?

Or maybe Woodboro stations?

[Evil DIMwit]

I'm not sure that there's room for full-on stations.

[natty dread]

Radio stations wouldn't really fit the style of the map. IMO.

[DJ Teflon]

Yeah, although my extra ports idea might be tricky to add graphically too - it wcould maybe be something like this:

Introduce mountains and coastal areas around the edge s of the map (maybe also use mountains as internal impassables too)

Have red ports in ''Africa' and 'SE Asia'

Have blue ports in 'NE Asia' and 'N America'

Have both colour posts in S America' and 'Australia'

Same colour ports either link directly or via a (small) killer neutral sea region.

[Victor Sullivan]

I'm not sure that there's room for full-on stations.

Eh, I think you could fit them. Make them smaller/more simplified and possibly adjust a border or two and I think it'd work fine

Radio stations wouldn't really fit the style of the map. IMO.

What is the style of the map, then, if not a conglomeration of several rather different maps?

[natty dread]

Just because the gameplay and theme was borrowed from several maps, doesn't mean the map doesn't have a style... I don't think lunar shuttles would fit this map either, or missile bases.

Time-period-wise, the map seems less than modern... There's a castle under siege in the middle, some more castles in the feudal part... the most modern thing is the city mogul part with the factories, so I'd rate this at most to 19th century. Therefore I don't think commercial radio stations would fit too well there.

By the way... now that I brought up the siege part... I think, it would make more sense for the siege area to be an inset, rather than the Cairns coral coast area... You have tiny castles in the feudal area, so how would the castle that's under siege be a whole bonus area in another area? It would require some rearrangement, but it could be done, I think...

[Victor Sullivan]

Just because the gameplay and theme was borrowed from several maps, doesn't mean the map doesn't have a style... I don't think lunar shuttles would fit this map either, or missile bases.

Time-period-wise, the map seems less than modern... There's a castle under siege in the middle, some more castles in the feudal part... the most modern thing is the city mogul part with the factories, so I'd rate this at most to 19th century. Therefore I don't think commercial radio stations would fit too well there.

By the way... now that I brought up the siege part... I think, it would make more sense for the siege area to be an inset, rather than the Cairns coral coast area... You have tiny castles in the feudal area, so how would the castle that's under siege be a whole bonus area in another area? It would require some rearrangement, but it could be done, I think...

Your trying to put a time period on this map, when you really shouldn't be... You're trying to quantify it in ways it's not supposed to be... The thematic focus is the merging of the different maps.