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Re: Baltic States: [27 Jun 2011] v7 Pg 6 Correct Bonus Valu

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:52 am

Version 8:
Still some items to fix but this is the next version. I need to fix the legend first then finish the territories and pick colors.

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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:46 pm

Yup, the legend needs fixed as you mentioned, but what about impassables? Currently you only have the river.

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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby theBastard on Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:01 pm

looking good. more impassable is needed, yes.

did you thought about any victory conditions?
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:17 pm

theBastard wrote:looking good. more impassable is needed, yes.

did you thought about any victory conditions?

I think victory conditions might be out of place on this map. I like the clear cut emphasis and graphics it has going so far.


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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby iancanton on Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:15 am

there's an unnecessarily-large number of bonus zones. west estonia and islands estonia can be combined usefully, for example, to form a proper continent in the classic sense. islands estonia especially ought to be eliminated as a stand-alone bonus because of its small size and isolated location.

thematically, lithuania is the largest country by area, population and size of economy, yet has the smallest number of regions! something a bit wrong there!

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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:58 pm

I am working on getting another version up, which will have more graphic updates such as getting the impassables back up and in. Just got back from being out a week. Should be soonish!
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:24 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:Yup, the legend needs fixed as you mentioned, but what about impassables? Currently you only have the river.

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All Impassables will return. I am just updating the graphics.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:44 am

As you are updating the graphic, can you make the lines running through the map more consistent. They are strong in blue and invisible in red.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:46 am

koontz1973 wrote:As you are updating the graphic, can you make the lines running through the map more consistent. They are strong in blue and invisible in red.



They are the same all the way through. What you are seeing is the color blend.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:47 am

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koontz1973 wrote:As you are updating the graphic, can you make the lines running through the map more consistent. They are strong in blue and invisible in red.



They are the same all the way through. What you are seeing is the color blend.


I figured that out all on my own :o , but try to make them stronger in the reds and less in the blue so it looks consistent.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby TaCktiX on Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:01 am

So when can we be expecting an update? I'd like to figure through any nitpicks I've got and it's hard to do with the present state of things. ;)
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby natty dread on Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:09 am

Yeah Bruce, stop being such a lazy slob!

The new style of this map is looking quite nice, so it'd be a shame to stall it now.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:38 am

natty_dread wrote:Yeah Bruce, stop being such a lazy slob!

The new style of this map is looking quite nice, so it'd be a shame to stall it now.

Agreed.


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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:43 am

Sorry guys been a super busy month for me. An update will be coming soon.
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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v8 Pg 8 New Look!

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Re: Baltic States: [11 Jul 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:30 am

Trees? I need new ones I think. Any ideas?

How are the colors on the territory bonuses?

Should I fix the Legend better?

What about those hills in the impassables? Fix those also?
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby DiM on Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:22 am

it's generally a good idea to post what changes you've made from the previous update.
i see you've added impassables on the map. what else?
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:41 pm

I have added the impassbles back
Fixed the Legend
Fixed territory colors (They work for the color blind)


Now I am not sure I like the trees I have right now. Do you have any suggestions?
Should I change the bonus colors any?
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby natty dread on Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:15 pm

The grid is a nice addition, but it's a bit distracting - can you put it under the territory border layer?
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby Seamus76 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:12 am

I like the grid a lot too, but agree with Natty above to move it down. I don't mind the trees, but there might be a better one out there. Not the hill to die for though.
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby natty dread on Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:28 pm

The Central Estonian area is a bit too close to the sea colour... it looks like it's flooded.

As for trees... try making them a bit smaller and less uniform - some variation in size, and not going in a totally straight line, make them look a bit more natural.

Also, move the border between Saldus / Jelgava to the right a bit - it's hard to see the Saldus - Siauliai connection. Also, Jurbarkas - Marijampolë... are they supposed to connect?

The gameplay seems pretty solid... Although, the northern part could use at least one more easy bonus - the south has so many easy bonuses it seems a bit lopsided. Maybe an impassable on the north side of Tartu, making SE Estonia have 2 borders?

And maybe an impassable between Tukums & Riga?
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby Augustus Maximus on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:57 pm

Rather than making a straight line with the trees, a grouping/cluster of trees would look better.
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby TaCktiX on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:03 am

I'll agree that the grid lines are distracting in the top and middle of the map, but at the bottom they're practically invisible because of the territory colors. It's a nice idea, but some work is likely going to be needed to handle the yellow/blue/red scheme you've got territory-wise.
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby Gillipig on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:23 pm

A nice standard map I'd say but is there place for another baltic map? "Baltic Crusades" is in the final forge and is quite similar in location! Although game play differs a lot I suspect the number of players who are going to try this map when it's cleared for beta shortly after the other baltic map has already been there is going to be few!
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Re: Baltic States: [3 Aug 2011] v9 Pg 8 Trees?

Postby jigger1986 on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:07 am

I think this map looks great! Not being a map maker I cant really give to much feedback, but from the point of view of just your average CC schmo I really like it and would like to play it!

Please keep it up.

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